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StillGotIt

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Have you had enough of Haiti?

A lot of people around me are mentally exhausted about the whole thing. Many Hatians that I know are saying that their country is never going to do the right thing with the money, and many are wondering who will actually have control of it. Some are complaining about the US being there in such a large capacity, others are saying that Haiti will stay Haiti because they produce nothing that can improve their economic situation. Is it even "our" job to rebuild Haiti or is aid enough?

Hell....this isn't going to be popular but the US still has not rebuilt New Orleans.....I'm just saying. I just read that they were shipping some Hatians to Boston for medical care...meanwhile somebody I personally know in Boston cannot afford their medicines and the hospitals will not provide it.

Your thoughts?
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Reply #1 posted 02/09/10 6:45am

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Reply #2 posted 02/09/10 6:51am

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StillGotIt said:

A lot of people around me are mentally exhausted about the whole thing. Many Hatians that I know are saying that their country is never going to do the right thing with the money, and many are wondering who will actually have control of it. Some are complaining about the US being there in such a large capacity, others are saying that Haiti will stay Haiti because they produce nothing that can improve their economic situation. Is it even "our" job to rebuild Haiti or is aid enough?

Hell....this isn't going to be popular but the US still has not rebuilt New Orleans.....I'm just saying. I just read that they were shipping some Hatians to Boston for medical care...meanwhile somebody I personally know in Boston cannot afford their medicines and the hospitals will not provide it.

Your thoughts?
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I was wondering if all the money donated is actually going to those who need it most instead of lining the pockets of corrupt officials. I mean with the probably millions of dollars donated, somebody is gonna say, "Hmmm, who's gonna miss this little bit I skim off the top..."
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Reply #3 posted 02/09/10 10:01am

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i'm not tired of haiti, but i am discouraged by the many reports of violence regarding food and aid distribution.

apparently, women and children aren't getting enough to eat because the men are ganging up and robbing them either of food coupons, or of food.

moreover, women are being raped in huge numbers now that there is no safe place for them to go or law enforcement.

mind you, rape was only made a crime in haiti in 2005, but still, when i hear stories of women being abused as they try merely to feed themselves and their family, i want to send them GUNS not food. mad
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Reply #4 posted 02/10/10 7:35am

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This will be in ongoing situation. It will take many years for Haiti to recover and many more to make it florish.
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Reply #5 posted 02/10/10 7:43am

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I'm sure the Haitians haven't had enough yet.
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Reply #6 posted 02/10/10 12:34pm

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It's a sad situation, though some people may be tired of the coverage. But quite frankly, only CNN has been doing continuous coverage. The other stations are not covering it much anymore.

Many have been trying to bring media attention to what was happening there, and they hardly got a camera crew to go in there and tell the story at the level it's receiving today, and the only reason is because of the earthquake. The G7 agreed to cancel Hait's debt, and it makes me wonder if it's because of all the donations coming in. I wonder if these banks that gave Haiti loans are getting some of the donated money to make up for what the Haiti government cannot pay off. These people are hardworking and their spirit is resilient and I feel they get such a bad light shined on them. They do get treated worse than those coming from Cuba trying to get into America.

Hundreds of thousands are homeless because of this quake, and mamy more are orphaned as well. It's a horrible situation. I'm sure there has to be a way they can rebuild and get their lives on track, if they "actually" get the help they need. It is a shame that they've had so many corrupt government officials. I just can't get mad at a people who only wanted to be indepedent but has had so many outside forces/corrupt officials hurting the way of life for many Haitians. I will continue to donate throughout the year. As far as New Orleans, I still don't understand what is going on there, especially with so much money donated there.

Another thing is that the Cheyenne Sioux of South Dakota are suffering from a major snow storm and had power outtages and are in need of basic resources, like food and clothing, as well as monetary donations. This received very little media attention.

If anyone would like to donate to the Cheyenne Sioux Disaster fund, check this link below:

http://www.razoo.com/stor...Assistance

If you would like to make contributions of clothing, shoes and other non-cash gifts, please mail such items to: Wakpa Sica 709 Ft. Chouteau Road Ft. Pierre, SD 57532 605-223-9099

To learn more about the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe and their recovery efforts please visit their website at www.sioux.org/English/CRS...Relief.php
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Reply #7 posted 02/10/10 12:36pm

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XxAxX said:

i'm not tired of haiti, but i am discouraged by the many reports of violence regarding food and aid distribution.

apparently, women and children aren't getting enough to eat because the men are ganging up and robbing them either of food coupons, or of food.

moreover, women are being raped in huge numbers now that there is no safe place for them to go or law enforcement.

mind you, rape was only made a crime in haiti in 2005, but still, when i hear stories of women being abused as they try merely to feed themselves and their family, i want to send them GUNS not food. mad



I would be careful of the reports because many may not be true. I was listening to a PBS reporter who stated there have been false reports about violence and other news about what was going on in Haiti, yet many reporters are stating that the majority of the Haitians have been cooperative. I think some are getting to a point of desperation, because there are other areas, where help has not reached them yet. This is the same thing that happened during Hurricane Katrina about false reports of rapes and violence at the stadium where the people were. Not saying that there may be no acts of violence, but I would be careful about some of these reports.
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Reply #8 posted 02/10/10 12:56pm

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I've not had enough of Haiti. I will feel better once things are more manageable. It's sad that people have short term memory and get bored and exhausted over stories involving natural disasters and/or human suffering or stories of soldiers dying in Afghanistan and Iraq, yet we willingly intoxicate ourselves with stories about which celebrities are breaking up or hooking up or how Obama is supposedly a bad president in only his first year of his first term. rolleyes
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StillGotIt said:

A lot of people around me are mentally exhausted about the whole thing. Many Hatians that I know are saying that their country is never going to do the right thing with the money, and many are wondering who will actually have control of it. Some are complaining about the US being there in such a large capacity, others are saying that Haiti will stay Haiti because they produce nothing that can improve their economic situation. Is it even "our" job to rebuild Haiti or is aid enough?

Hell....this isn't going to be popular but the US still has not rebuilt New Orleans.....I'm just saying. I just read that they were shipping some Hatians to Boston for medical care...meanwhile somebody I personally know in Boston cannot afford their medicines and the hospitals will not provide it.

Your thoughts?
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Well USA has done anything about that hole in the ground neither. Am I right?
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Reply #11 posted 02/10/10 8:08pm

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Honestly, in this context, I really don't think it's about ME and what I have or have not had enough of.

I donated to Partners In Health. Word is that their funds go directly to efficient and effective medical care by teams very experienced in setting up makeshift hospitals in remote regions and tending to hundreds of people per day. I don't believe it is corrupt and they really need the help.
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I spoke to my girlfriend yesterday. They are in a tent outside of their home. Their home still stands but there is a huge crack and they worry it could fall at any moment. She told me that the jail got busted open, so the worst of the worst are terrorizing others, and it makes sleeping outside beyond scary. She said the people she knows think the money will be sucked up the gov't officials in the long run, the same way it has always been.
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Haiti was in dire straits before the earthquake and folk didn't give a shit. Basically half the continent of Africa is in dire straits and no one gives a shit. It's really sad how people give and give and still people are starving yet other people can be worth millions and billions of dollars for shaking their fat ass or swinging a golf club (and swinging dick on the side). This whole society haas their proiorites so messed up at this point in time that basically nothing will get done. It's a shame,

I feel for the Haitians, and all the people suffering, when there is truly no reason why so many should suffer at all sometimes.

The earthquake was devastating and they should have moved people immediately to another part of the country and got them food and water and medicine

But then again, like someone mentioned, we couldn't even help people in the US in a timely fashion.... disbelief
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Reply #14 posted 02/11/10 6:13am

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2elijah said:

XxAxX said:

i'm not tired of haiti, but i am discouraged by the many reports of violence regarding food and aid distribution.

apparently, women and children aren't getting enough to eat because the men are ganging up and robbing them either of food coupons, or of food.

moreover, women are being raped in huge numbers now that there is no safe place for them to go or law enforcement.

mind you, rape was only made a crime in haiti in 2005, but still, when i hear stories of women being abused as they try merely to feed themselves and their family, i want to send them GUNS not food. mad



I would be careful of the reports because many may not be true. I was listening to a PBS reporter who stated there have been false reports about violence and other news about what was going on in Haiti, yet many reporters are stating that the majority of the Haitians have been cooperative. I think some are getting to a point of desperation, because there are other areas, where help has not reached them yet. This is the same thing that happened during Hurricane Katrina about false reports of rapes and violence at the stadium where the people were. Not saying that there may be no acts of violence, but I would be careful about some of these reports.
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You'd think people would learn second time around. disbelief
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Reply #15 posted 02/12/10 9:50am

Shyra

BklynBabe said:

Haiti was in dire straits before the earthquake and folk didn't give a shit. Basically half the continent of Africa is in dire straits and no one gives a shit. It's really sad how people give and give and still people are starving yet other people can be worth millions and billions of dollars for shaking their fat ass or swinging a golf club (and swinging dick on the side). This whole society haas their proiorites so messed up at this point in time that basically nothing will get done. It's a shame,

I feel for the Haitians, and all the people suffering, when there is truly no reason why so many should suffer at all sometimes.

The earthquake was devastating and they should have moved people immediately to another part of the country and got them food and water and medicine

But then again, like someone mentioned, we couldn't even help people in the US in a timely fashion.... disbelief


You're absolutely right. It's Katrina all over again. What you want to bet that a year from now, some of those folk will still be homeless?
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Reply #16 posted 02/12/10 10:38am

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2elijah said:

It's a sad situation, though some people may be tired of the coverage. But quite frankly, only CNN has been doing continuous coverage. The other stations are not covering it much anymore.

Many have been trying to bring media attention to what was happening there, and they hardly got a camera crew to go in there and tell the story at the level it's receiving today, and the only reason is because of the earthquake. The G7 agreed to cancel Hait's debt, and it makes me wonder if it's because of all the donations coming in. I wonder if these banks that gave Haiti loans are getting some of the donated money to make up for what the Haiti government cannot pay off. These people are hardworking and their spirit is resilient and I feel they get such a bad light shined on them. They do get treated worse than those coming from Cuba trying to get into America.

Hundreds of thousands are homeless because of this quake, and mamy more are orphaned as well. It's a horrible situation. I'm sure there has to be a way they can rebuild and get their lives on track, if they "actually" get the help they need. It is a shame that they've had so many corrupt government officials. I just can't get mad at a people who only wanted to be indepedent but has had so many outside forces/corrupt officials hurting the way of life for many Haitians. I will continue to donate throughout the year. As far as New Orleans, I still don't understand what is going on there, especially with so much money donated there.

Another thing is that the Cheyenne Sioux of South Dakota are suffering from a major snow storm and had power outtages and are in need of basic resources, like food and clothing, as well as monetary donations. This received very little media attention.

If anyone would like to donate to the Cheyenne Sioux Disaster fund, check this link below:

http://www.razoo.com/stor...Assistance

If you would like to make contributions of clothing, shoes and other non-cash gifts, please mail such items to: Wakpa Sica 709 Ft. Chouteau Road Ft. Pierre, SD 57532 605-223-9099

To learn more about the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe and their recovery efforts please visit their website at www.sioux.org/English/CRS...Relief.php
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