NDRU said: heartbeatocean said: seriously? most of the time nothing happens, though, because I have been called time after time and not been selected to come in. So if I'd ignored it, nothing would have happened. But you take a risk. Still we move, mail gets lost, whatever, I doubt you'd do jail time. Here in NYC, they don't play. They WILL jail and fine your ass. | |
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uPtoWnNY said: NDRU said: most of the time nothing happens, though, because I have been called time after time and not been selected to come in. So if I'd ignored it, nothing would have happened. But you take a risk. Still we move, mail gets lost, whatever, I doubt you'd do jail time. Here in NYC, they don't play. They WILL jail and fine your ass. I'm sure they will in CA, too, I just think you won't necessarily get a warrant unless they actually ask you to come in to court and you don't show up. Here, we call in, and most of the time you don't even get selected to come in to court, let alone get put on a jury. My Legacy
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I got to be a jury foreman a couple years ago. It was incredibly interesting. | |
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JustErin said: TonyVanDam said: How did you get out of paying a fine OR serving jail time for missing jury duty? I dunno... I was dead. They killed me, remember? I'm sorry, I really have no info to share. I probably should have just stayed out of this thread. Ass. | |
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Shyra said: squirrelgrease said: It can be a fascinating process, and extremely draining emotionally. There's a lot of boredom involved no matter what kind of case you're on and you don't get paid enough to cover parking and lunch/dinner, etc. Your employer has to let you serve and give you the time off, but is under no obligation to pay you for it. So, depending on your employer, you usually have to use sick/holiday/vacation time. I was foreman on a murder trail and while it was wonderful to see the inside of the process, it was harrowing to say the least. My trial involved two kids who were accused of murdering another kid. The whole thing was just completely sad. Jurors are not allowed to talk about the trial at any time, even with spouses. You can't watch the news or read the paper. We were sequestered during deliberations and our cell phones were taken away. You become very isolated from your family. On top of all that, it was a gang related killing and threats were made prior to the trial, so the jurors had to be surrounded by deputies at all times once the court was in our hands. And the deliberations... man... that was a nightmare in itself. I was a juror on a high profile trial for the mayor of Washington, DC back in 1991. We were sequestered for 9 weeks! The nice thing about it was that the government really tried to make us very comfortable during that time. They put us up in a hotel where each room had a steam bath/sauna/Jacuzzi; we had three hot squares a day plus snacks and cocktails; every weekend they would take us on shopping sprees or you could go home for "conjugal visits" with your spouse; however, a marshal had to escort you wherever you went. I had a cat at the time, which would bite the tip of his tail completely off. I had to take him to the vet and the marshal drove us, and had to stand there with me during the entire exam and treatment. The bad thing about it was dealing with some folk who were just downright annoying. But it did give good insight into how the judicial system worked and how the nation perceived our verdicts. But to answer your question about not showing up, the judge will issue a warrant for your arrest. I talked to one juror before the trial started and he said he ignored the notice to appear because he was a teacher at an upscale private boys school in the district and thought it wasn't that important for him to appear. The marshal went to his school and took him right out of class! Funny thing about it, we elected him foreman! I thought I would not be picked because I usually kept to myself and was not very gregarious. Everyday at the "holding room" where prospective jurors would sit before being called for the voire dire, I would go to a quiet area and read. When I was called before the judge for my voire dire, he asked me if there was any reason why I would not want to serve. I said, "Your Honor, I don't mean to be facetious, but I have two cats at home, and I'm their only care giver." He said, "Oh, so you're afraid that they'd eat each other?" Didn't work. Next thing I know, I'm sitting in the jury box with 14 other folks and the judge said, "Gentlemen, we have a jury!" One young guy behind me, the youngest of all the jurors, shouted, "OH SHIT!" [Edited 2/9/10 7:29am] You were a juror for Marion Barry's drug trial? If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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squirrel....
were you allowed to go home after court? or were you stuck in a hotel? how long did it last? I was summoned twice for jury duty..dont know how i managed to get out of it. but i kinda wish i hadnt. | |
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sonic said: squirrel....
were you allowed to go home after court? or were you stuck in a hotel? how long did it last? I was summoned twice for jury duty..dont know how i managed to get out of it. but i kinda wish i hadnt. Yes, we could go home during the trial, just not deliberations. We were sequestered not because of press coverage, but because of the death threats. The hotel was nice and I lucked out by getting my own room - everyone else had to shack up with another juror. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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NDRU said: heartbeatocean said: You and my mom are the only people I have heard say this. I live in California and we get summoned every year. But you had to actually go in? Don't you just call the # and they say "you are not needed, thank you." That's what's happened to me year after year. No Once about ten years ago, when I lived in SF, I had to go in and sit in a room for a couple of hours, then they let me go. This week was the first time living in East Bay that I actually got called to go in. But I showed up late. | |
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OK FOLKS. I decided to risk it and just go to work today. When I came home tonight I called in again and they said that my jury date was rescheduled for January 19, 2010!
So, my gut feeling is, that they're going to get their shit together and catch up to me at some point and reschedule me. Frankly, the guy I spoke to didn't seem threatening. He didn't even take down my name. He just told me to call in again. The reason I don't want to do it is that I lose income and it strains my relationship with my employer and clients. I wouldn't mind otherwise, I suppose. Although I've got plans of my own. | |
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I'm 40 next year and have never been asked; I feel a bit slighted, not that I want to do jury service, but one of my friends who is nearly 10 years younger than me has been asked twice and my dad has had to do it 3 times.
What's wrong with me; why haven't I been called up? "I know that living with u baby, was sometimes hard...but I'm willing 2 give it another try.
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heartbeatocean said: The reason I don't want to do it is that I lose income and it strains my relationship with my employer and clients. I wouldn't mind otherwise, I suppose. Although I've got plans of my own. You might be able to request a pass because of this. I mistakenly got called for jury duty within a year of going in (not selected); it was accompanied by a form you could fill out stating why you felt you should not have to serve. One of the choices was that it would cause finanical hardship. In NY, there is also a number to call that can postpone your date -- I did that a couple of times when called during a super busy work month. Regardless, I wouldn't skip anymore jury duty summons. You never know how it might come back to bite you -- the government is often incompetent, but when they get their shit together they don't play. The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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jone70 said: heartbeatocean said: The reason I don't want to do it is that I lose income and it strains my relationship with my employer and clients. I wouldn't mind otherwise, I suppose. Although I've got plans of my own. You might be able to request a pass because of this. I mistakenly got called for jury duty within a year of going in (not selected); it was accompanied by a form you could fill out stating why you felt you should not have to serve. One of the choices was that it would cause finanical hardship. In NY, there is also a number to call that can postpone your date -- I did that a couple of times when called during a super busy work month. Regardless, I wouldn't skip anymore jury duty summons. You never know how it might come back to bite you -- the government is often incompetent, but when they get their shit together they don't play. I already postponed it, so was not eligible to do so this time. I suppose I could sacrifice a day or two, but more than that? How do people manage it when they have jobs? | |
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squirrelgrease said: Shyra said: I was a juror on a high profile trial for the mayor of Washington, DC back in 1991. We were sequestered for 9 weeks! The nice thing about it was that the government really tried to make us very comfortable during that time. They put us up in a hotel where each room had a steam bath/sauna/Jacuzzi; we had three hot squares a day plus snacks and cocktails; every weekend they would take us on shopping sprees or you could go home for "conjugal visits" with your spouse; however, a marshal had to escort you wherever you went. I had a cat at the time, which would bite the tip of his tail completely off. I had to take him to the vet and the marshal drove us, and had to stand there with me during the entire exam and treatment. The bad thing about it was dealing with some folk who were just downright annoying. But it did give good insight into how the judicial system worked and how the nation perceived our verdicts. But to answer your question about not showing up, the judge will issue a warrant for your arrest. I talked to one juror before the trial started and he said he ignored the notice to appear because he was a teacher at an upscale private boys school in the district and thought it wasn't that important for him to appear. The marshal went to his school and took him right out of class! Funny thing about it, we elected him foreman! I thought I would not be picked because I usually kept to myself and was not very gregarious. Everyday at the "holding room" where prospective jurors would sit before being called for the voire dire, I would go to a quiet area and read. When I was called before the judge for my voire dire, he asked me if there was any reason why I would not want to serve. I said, "Your Honor, I don't mean to be facetious, but I have two cats at home, and I'm their only care giver." He said, "Oh, so you're afraid that they'd eat each other?" Didn't work. Next thing I know, I'm sitting in the jury box with 14 other folks and the judge said, "Gentlemen, we have a jury!" One young guy behind me, the youngest of all the jurors, shouted, "OH SHIT!" [Edited 2/9/10 7:29am] You were a juror for Marion Barry's drug trial? | |
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heartbeatocean said: NDRU said: But you had to actually go in? Don't you just call the # and they say "you are not needed, thank you." That's what's happened to me year after year. No Once about ten years ago, when I lived in SF, I had to go in and sit in a room for a couple of hours, then they let me go. This week was the first time living in East Bay that I actually got called to go in. But I showed up late. this thread reminds me that I should straighten out some stuff, myself. I get two notices--one to me, and one to a slightly mis-spelled me. I ignored the mis-spelled me one last time, because I finally figured out why I was being called so often. But I guess I should clear it all up My Legacy
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squirrelgrease said: meow85 said: Am I weird because I actually want to do jury duty?
I think it would be a fascinating way to learn firsthand about the judicial process. I've yet to be summoned though. It can be a fascinating process, and extremely draining emotionally. There's a lot of boredom involved no matter what kind of case you're on and you don't get paid enough to cover parking and lunch/dinner, etc. Your employer has to let you serve and give you the time off, but is under no obligation to pay you for it. So, depending on your employer, you usually have to use sick/holiday/vacation time. I was foreman on a murder trail and while it was wonderful to see the inside of the process, it was harrowing to say the least. My trial involved two kids who were accused of murdering another kid. The whole thing was just completely sad. Jurors are not allowed to talk about the trial at any time, even with spouses. You can't watch the news or read the paper. We were sequestered during deliberations and our cell phones were taken away. You become very isolated from your family. On top of all that, it was a gang related killing and threats were made prior to the trial, so the jurors had to be surrounded by deputies at all times once the court was in our hands. And the deliberations... man... that was a nightmare in itself. I had a memorable and only jury service time for an aggravated assault charge stemming from road range but involving a whole gang of kids after the two drivers stopped on a street near the house of one of the drivers. We were in there for two and half days. It got dramatic in that jury room: Woman crying, another man threatening another, arguing... and when it was all over the prosecutor came in to thank us and even she started crying. And one lady suggested we all have a reunion dinner.... My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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just checked the mail, got a jury summons for someone that doesn't and has never lived here! I guess I will call and tell them? Or just return to sender. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" | |
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After reading all the responses on this thread, jury duty sounds a tad more interesting to me and I've decided to be less stand-offish about it in the future. | |
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