I was a very shy kid growing up, more of the academic bookworm type. My shyness was crippling to the point that I hated taking pics and avoided the prom when I was asked out. I sure as hell wasn't gonna ask anyone out and never really cared if I got noticed or not.

Nowadays,I actually am flattered when the woman does the asking. Since moving to TX a few years back, I found the women in Houston pretty aggressive in that regards, which is nice. Not sure of the ratio of men to women in the city, but I assume in cities where the single women outnumber the single men, the women do more of the asking.

heartbeatocean said:

yeah, i definitely do. he's awesome. i saw his band play the other night, and oh man

evenstar3 said:

Musicians

sammij said:

seriously. especially ones that aren't cocky!

evenstar3 said:

YES.

sammij said:

musicians!!!

if I had my time again I'd stay clear of them

mind you, if I had the choice of musician or sports fan, I'd choose musician.

unfortunately, I started going out with him in Dec 94, so the world cup had just been, and I spent close to 4 years in ignorant bliss of the horror that is bloody football

ZombieKitten said:

sammij said:

it's OK, it could be worse! it could be a sport with a grand final EVERY YEAR

omg I would just DIE

ZombieKitten said:

Why so?

heartbeatocean said:

if you have a kids, or plan to have kids:
consider that fri and sat are usually gig nights, combine that with rehearsals and recording, which usually take place at night, it generally leaves you to put kids to bed and spend evenings at home alone 4+ nights each week.
The mornings after gigs (which can end 3am or later) try keeping the kids quiet from 7am onwards until the musician wakes up
NYE is rarely spent together with your partner, as he normally has a gig that night and you are home minding the kids, since gigs are normally at non-child friendly venues.

ZombieKitten said:

wait, so the master is a musician?

heartbeatocean said:

that's how I know all that stuff!!!!

I forgot to mention that writing songs takes a LOOOOONG time, also time that requires kids to be quiet

www.myspace.com/crashmousemusic and www.myspace.com/maniccity

ooooh, and if he is in more than ONE band at a time, (for example 2) double the time spent away from the family, and say he has a REAL job during work hours and all the musicianism is done after hours

then you have
story of MY life!

if it's the mum doing all that musicianising, she'd be called a bad mother! (except if she is madonna)

ZombieKitten said:

Wow! That's some good stuff! Both the vocalists are great!

ZombieKitten said:

All that sounds really hard. I think, unconsciously or consciously, I avoided having kids because I wanted to be an artist and I know how much time it takes to pursue any kind of dream. I mean for me, I get VERY involved in my work and it can become a 24/7 type thing. Maybe if I were a guy, I wouldn't have felt it so necessary to make that choice?

I have a friend who said to me the other day, "there's really no benefit for women in marriage anymore, especially since we're expected to contribute financially".

But I do admire that both you and the master get as much done as you do, still manage to make a living, pursue creative activities, stay married, AND raise three kids! (and howsoever you manage to keep up with all of us on the internet is beyond me )

And to follow up on the topic of musicians...I'm a musician beginning to play more (today I got invited to play in a new band), so I'm thinking chances are...if I ever have a date again in my life...it will likely be with a musician because those are the people I am meeting and there's nothing like the bond of music between two people...

maybe that could work since I don't have kids



...and we could stay out late on weekends...playing music together...

heartbeatocean said:

I have loads of spare time, time that would usually be used for "couple time"



Would you consider children if you could have a wife who cooks, cleans, chauffeurs the kids around etc? Many men wouldn't have kids if they couldn't have this very "service"

ZombieKitten said:

I think I most definitely would! If she would also give birth to them, even better! (although I still think I'd rather adopt, that's more aligned with my values)

sammij said:

Female musicians

heartbeatocean said:

Again:

Female musicians

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