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Reply #30 posted 01/12/10 7:01pm

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JustErin said:

Long hair and skinny jeans disrupts learning? lol


If the skinny jeans are also sagging (on boys), or if the girls wearing them have camel toe and other atrocities, yes. Trust me- you should see how these kids come to school...
We're also dealing with MAJOR cleavage, boys with their asses hanging out, and girls who don't know the difference between leggings and regular tights (and wearing them with short shirts disbelief)

We try to teach the kids that what you wear to the mall or a party is not necessarily appropriate for school. confused
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Reply #31 posted 01/12/10 7:02pm

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chocolate1 said:

JustErin said:

Long hair and skinny jeans disrupts learning? lol


If the skinny jeans are also sagging (on boys), or if the girls wearing them have camel toe and other atrocities, yes. Trust me- you should see how these kids come to school...
We're also dealing with MAJOR cleavage, boys with their asses hanging out, and girls who don't know the difference between leggings and regular tights (and wearing them with short shirts disbelief)

We try to teach the kids that what you wear to the mall or a party is not necessarily appropriate for school. confused
No one is trying to take away their individuality, but there are limits.



We're talking about some redneck town in Texas where it is probably still legal to burn witches at ths stake.
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Reply #32 posted 01/12/10 7:03pm

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cborgman said:

Genesia said:



A school district not only has the right to set reasonable standards aimed at fostering an atmosphere conducive to learning, it has a responsibility to do so.

For parents to teach their child that they are above rules that apply to everyone is wrong.


reasonable standards, absofreakinglutely. i really hope that all schools are cracking down on the jeans hanging sub-ass level, because that's reasonable.

hair length i find no reasonability in, particularly when it is based solely in gender. they would never tell a girl she had to cut her hair.



or that her hair was too short.
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Reply #33 posted 01/12/10 7:05pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

chocolate1 said:



If the skinny jeans are also sagging (on boys), or if the girls wearing them have camel toe and other atrocities, yes. Trust me- you should see how these kids come to school...
We're also dealing with MAJOR cleavage, boys with their asses hanging out, and girls who don't know the difference between leggings and regular tights (and wearing them with short shirts disbelief)

We try to teach the kids that what you wear to the mall or a party is not necessarily appropriate for school. confused
No one is trying to take away their individuality, but there are limits.



We're talking about some redneck town in Texas where it is probably still legal to burn witches at ths stake.


very redneck town. there are worse in texas, but... very very redneck.

it was kind fo sad when i went there, because it made me realize how much my twon, which is bush's hometown, was actually not the worst in the state, and in fact, nowhere near the worst.
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Reply #34 posted 01/12/10 7:05pm

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ok, I hate to say this about a child...but he looks like a fucking idiot with his hair like that...and to other 4 year olds it probably is distracting...
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Reply #35 posted 01/12/10 7:06pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

chocolate1 said:



If the skinny jeans are also sagging (on boys), or if the girls wearing them have camel toe and other atrocities, yes. Trust me- you should see how these kids come to school...
We're also dealing with MAJOR cleavage, boys with their asses hanging out, and girls who don't know the difference between leggings and regular tights (and wearing them with short shirts disbelief)

We try to teach the kids that what you wear to the mall or a party is not necessarily appropriate for school. confused
No one is trying to take away their individuality, but there are limits.



We're talking about some redneck town in Texas where it is probably still legal to burn witches at ths stake.



Like I said- I saw this on TV last week. I thought that they were making too big of a deal out of hair length. The only part I had an issue with was when the parents were saying that "he refuses to cut his hair". I thought, "He's F**kin' FOUR! Refuse?! mad"

But really... all the adults involved need to worry about more important things...

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Reply #36 posted 01/12/10 7:08pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

cborgman said:



reasonable standards, absofreakinglutely. i really hope that all schools are cracking down on the jeans hanging sub-ass level, because that's reasonable.

hair length i find no reasonability in, particularly when it is based solely in gender. they would never tell a girl she had to cut her hair.



or that her hair was too short.


exactly.

this is just a rule for boys based in crap stereotypes of the freaking 60s.

there is nothing reasonable about this. the kid is not freaking distracting from education occuring other than the dirstaction from teaching 50 year outdated gender rules.

particularly when they are using tax dollars to do so.
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Reply #37 posted 01/12/10 7:08pm

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ok, I hate to say this about a child...but he looks like a fucking idiot with his hair like that...and to other 4 year olds it probably is distracting...

well yeah, the parents definitely need to be slapped for that! lol
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Reply #38 posted 01/12/10 7:09pm

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very redneck town. there are worse in texas, but... very very redneck.

it was kind fo sad when i went there, because it made me realize how much my twon, which is bush's hometown, was actually not the worst in the state, and in fact, nowhere near the worst.



it is not that red neck it is a suburb of Dallas.
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Reply #39 posted 01/12/10 7:10pm

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ok, I hate to say this about a child...but he looks like a fucking idiot with his hair like that...and to other 4 year olds it probably is distracting...


the reason he looks stupid there (well, as stupid as anyone with a pebbles flintstone tail does, anyway) is because the school board forced him to either wear the stupid pebbles tail or be segregated.

and i sincerely doubt he is the only child in his class working that dumb pebbles look.
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Reply #40 posted 01/12/10 7:12pm

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thejason said:



ok, I hate to say this about a child...but he looks like a fucking idiot with his hair like that...and to other 4 year olds it probably is distracting...



he looks like one of those Smurf rip off snorkels or a fraggle or something
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Reply #41 posted 01/12/10 7:12pm

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cborgman said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:




or that her hair was too short.


exactly.

this is just a rule for boys based in crap stereotypes of the freaking 60s.

there is nothing reasonable about this. the kid is not freaking distracting from education occuring other than the dirstaction from teaching 50 year outdated gender rules.

particularly when they are suing tax dollars to do so.
My daughter wears uniforms. She can only wear white shoes. She can't wear different color ponytail holders. On the flipside of what you say, if following the rules does not interfere with the child's education, why not follow them? All the other parents follow the rules so why not this kid's?
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Reply #42 posted 01/12/10 7:14pm

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anyway I side with the KID. let him keep his hair and go to class. Let the adults work it out like adults and leave the kid out of it.
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Reply #43 posted 01/12/10 7:15pm

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cborgman said:

thejason said:



ok, I hate to say this about a child...but he looks like a fucking idiot with his hair like that...and to other 4 year olds it probably is distracting...


the reason he looks stupid there (well, as stupid as anyone with a pebbles flintstone tail does, anyway) is because the school board forced him to either wear the stupid pebbles tail or be segregated.

and i sincerely doubt he is the only child in his class working that dumb pebbles look.



the school said his hair had to be braided close to his head, not put up in a geyser like ponytail...

and I would bet most of my penis and both my balls that he's the only 4 year old boy in that class rocking that shit...and the majority of 4 year olds are gonna find that at the very least funny and distracting...
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Reply #44 posted 01/12/10 7:15pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

cborgman said:



very redneck town. there are worse in texas, but... very very redneck.

it was kind fo sad when i went there, because it made me realize how much my twon, which is bush's hometown, was actually not the worst in the state, and in fact, nowhere near the worst.



it is not that red neck it is a suburb of Dallas.


trust me, i'm a former texan.

austin is the only really liberal city in texas. houston and dallas are so much more conservative than you would think they are. and the suburbs tend to be ultra-conservative.

as liberal as austin is, i lived in one of it's burbs for a brief period, and even it was insanely conservative till you crossed the austin line.
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Reply #45 posted 01/12/10 7:16pm

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Vendetta1 said:

cborgman said:



exactly.

this is just a rule for boys based in crap stereotypes of the freaking 60s.

there is nothing reasonable about this. the kid is not freaking distracting from education occuring other than the dirstaction from teaching 50 year outdated gender rules.

particularly when they are suing tax dollars to do so.
My daughter wears uniforms. She can only wear white shoes. She can't wear different color ponytail holders. On the flipside of what you say, if following the rules does not interfere with the child's education, why not follow them? All the other parents follow the rules so why not this kid's?


do they regulate your daughter's hair length and style?
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Reply #46 posted 01/12/10 7:17pm

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cborgman said:



the reason he looks stupid there (well, as stupid as anyone with a pebbles flintstone tail does, anyway) is because the school board forced him to either wear the stupid pebbles tail or be segregated.

and i sincerely doubt he is the only child in his class working that dumb pebbles look.



the school said his hair had to be braided close to his head, not put up in a geyser like ponytail...

and I would bet most of my penis and both my balls that he's the only 4 year old boy in that class rocking that shit...and the majority of 4 year olds are gonna find that at the very least funny and distracting...
i thought it was a picture of a little girl.
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Reply #47 posted 01/12/10 7:18pm

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thejason said:

cborgman said:



the reason he looks stupid there (well, as stupid as anyone with a pebbles flintstone tail does, anyway) is because the school board forced him to either wear the stupid pebbles tail or be segregated.

and i sincerely doubt he is the only child in his class working that dumb pebbles look.



the school said his hair had to be braided close to his head, not put up in a geyser like ponytail...

and I would bet most of my penis and both my balls that he's the only 4 year old boy in that class rocking that shit...and the majority of 4 year olds are gonna find that at the very least funny and distracting...


i've seen pre-k and k classes. there are always pebbles and cindy brady pigtails, and they look dumb. even worse was those stupid 80's side tails.

but none of those are distracting from the learning, unless the teacher is insanely inept.
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Reply #48 posted 01/12/10 7:18pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

anyway I side with the KID. let him keep his hair and go to class. Let the adults work it out like adults and leave the kid out of it.



I'd agree if he was a teenager... trying to establish an identity and all that.
I just think at 4, you don't get those kinds of choices.

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Reply #49 posted 01/12/10 7:18pm

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Vendetta1 said:

My daughter wears uniforms. She can only wear white shoes. She can't wear different color ponytail holders. On the flipside of what you say, if following the rules does not interfere with the child's education, why not follow them? All the other parents follow the rules so why not this kid's?


do they regulate your daughter's hair length and style?
Not length but definitely style.
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Reply #50 posted 01/12/10 7:19pm

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Vendetta1 said:

]My daughter wears uniforms. She can only wear white shoes. She can't wear different color ponytail holders. On the flipside of what you say, if following the rules does not interfere with the child's education, why not follow them? All the other parents follow the rules so why not this kid's?



Is there a opt out policy for uniforms? Check many public schools that do have a uniform also have a little advertised means to opt out.
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Reply #51 posted 01/12/10 7:20pm

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chocolate1 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

anyway I side with the KID. let him keep his hair and go to class. Let the adults work it out like adults and leave the kid out of it.



I'd agree if he was a teenager... trying to establish an identity and all that.
I just think at 4, you don't get those kinds of choices.


that is a parenting issue, they do not want to be parents that should not be used to prevent him going to school.
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Reply #52 posted 01/12/10 7:20pm

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Vendetta1 said:

thejason said:




the school said his hair had to be braided close to his head, not put up in a geyser like ponytail...

and I would bet most of my penis and both my balls that he's the only 4 year old boy in that class rocking that shit...and the majority of 4 year olds are gonna find that at the very least funny and distracting...
i thought it was a picture of a little girl.

he looks like any other 4 year girl or boy with long hair.

i just don't get how this is really that big of a deal that it needs a policy only for boys.
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Reply #53 posted 01/12/10 7:21pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Vendetta1 said:

]My daughter wears uniforms. She can only wear white shoes. She can't wear different color ponytail holders. On the flipside of what you say, if following the rules does not interfere with the child's education, why not follow them? All the other parents follow the rules so why not this kid's?



Is there a opt out policy for uniforms? Check many public schools that do have a uniform also have a little advertised means to opt out.
No, there is not. And I don't want her to opt out anyway. She needs to learn to follow rules now or she is going to get her ass handed to her when she gets the hell out of my house in 3 years.
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Reply #54 posted 01/12/10 7:23pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

chocolate1 said:




I'd agree if he was a teenager... trying to establish an identity and all that.
I just think at 4, you don't get those kinds of choices.


that is a parenting issue, they do not want to be parents that should not be used to prevent him going to school.



Oh, I agree.
I should have clarified that I meant at 4 you don't get those kinds of choices- especially if it going to keep you out of school. I thought the parents saiunded stupid on the news talking about what HE wanted... I didn't read SCNDLS' whole article, but in the interview, they said he wants to look like his Dad, who has long hair.

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Reply #55 posted 01/12/10 7:23pm

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Vendetta1 said:

cborgman said:



do they regulate your daughter's hair length and style?
Not length but definitely style.


so what's the difference here, other than his having a penis?

the kid isn't coming in with blue hair or anything ridiculous. he has shoulder length hair. the school says his hair has to be short or braided to give the illusion of being short.

meanwhile anyone with a vagina can have it any length and any normal style.
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Reply #56 posted 01/12/10 7:28pm

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Vendetta1 said:

Not length but definitely style.


so what's the difference here, other than his having a penis?

the kid isn't coming in with blue hair or anything ridiculous. he has shoulder length hair. the school says his hair has to be short or braided to give the illusion of being short.

meanwhile anyone with a vagina can have it any length and any normal style.
I don't see the parallel, Chris.
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Reply #57 posted 01/12/10 7:28pm

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cborgman said:

Vendetta1 said:

i thought it was a picture of a little girl.

he looks like any other 4 year girl or boy with long hair.

i just don't get how this is really that big of a deal that it needs a policy only for boys.



borgman, I love you dude, but he doesnt look like any other 4 year old boy with long hair...he's got a goddam rooster tail on his head...

I mean, the shit is distracting me... lol
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Reply #58 posted 01/12/10 7:29pm

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I'm going to bed, but I will be back on this one in the morning...

'Nite, all! wave

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Reply #59 posted 01/12/10 7:29pm

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cborgman said:


he looks like any other 4 year girl or boy with long hair.

i just don't get how this is really that big of a deal that it needs a policy only for boys.



borgman, I love you dude, but he doesnt look like any other 4 year old boy with long hair...he's got a goddam rooster tail on his head...

I mean, the shit is distracting me... lol
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