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Thread started 01/16/03 3:10am

TRON

Melissa vs. Julie

Have any of you caught the Real World/Road Rules Battle of the Sexes? It's fascinating. I still can't get past the first incident where Melissa and Julie get into a fight. Some squabble about money and honesty. They seemed so close on the New Orleans show. It was sad to see their friendship end this way. And being that Julie is my brother's favorite from any cast and Melissa is mine, this made it doubly interesting. It kinda made both of them look bad and I'm trying to get to the bottom of who's at fault here. At this point, I'd say they both are and they need to grow up. But it appears that there is some information that wasn't presented on the show. Which is why I'm sure they're spouting off on their websites. If you wanna read more about this, check out www.princessmelissa.com and www.planetjulie.com.

I'll let you decide.
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Reply #1 posted 01/16/03 3:12am

TRON

Here's the first entry about it from Melissa's web journal:

My Commentary on MTV's Website
Jan 13 2003

This appeared on MTV’s website after the first episode.

The Julie Chronicles. Ha ha hee. Totally laughable. This here website, mtv.com, has reported, according to other cast members, that she’s a “liar”, “the devil”, a “rabid dog” and the girl that “no one on the Real World likes.” Even Wanda from E! Online who isn’t always accurate, but does have the capacity to nail things head on reported that “Julie=shady.” So there’s not much that I really need to say, but you know how I do. So, I give my commentary on what actually went down on the show. My points include:

1. What rallying? She said in interview that it would take more than three days to get people to see that she’s not the person that “I think” she is. Um. I spent my three days before mission reading magazines, tanning, learning how to tread water and talking to Coral on the phone in the bathroom discussing who was here and what awful things she may have been wearing. For example, shiny porn star pink lipstick is not flattering for anyone, except Jennifer Lopez can pull it off glamorously somehow. The point is, when I told Julie I found her to be a dishonest person all 36 cast members weren’t even in the room. And Genesis (who we’ll get back to) didn’t even know there was a fight, probably because it all went down before I was even unpacked. Once I was done telling Julie directly how much I despised her, I moved on about my business. And “more than three days”? To undo something that I didn’t even start? Child please, it would take a lifetime of random acts of kindness and yeah, let’s throw in a village…

2. As I remove this ice pick from my back, I will say this. This whole rift between us is not at all about a school hiring Julie (hey, I just noticed the word lie was contained within the spelling of her name) over me. That didn’t happen. It goes like this. Normal people have a booking agent who handles all the contracts, the money exchange etc. I already booked the job and got bumped off of it because Julie or her “people” called them and misrepresented my availability and me. None of this hogwash about me taking too long to reply is true. Also note, that if a school really hired her over me why would I be this angry? I don’t call schools and vie for a job that has already been filled by misrepresenting people. Incidentally, the school’s event organizer later apologized to me for the hoopla. The sad thing is, within the cult that is Real World, this is not an isolated incident nor is it directed at only me. The rift is much larger than some stupid job. It’s about mistrust, a lack of loyalty and yes, I will say it, I really thought we were friends and when a series of events go down that highlight one’s flaws so clearly, it’s disheartening, annoying and downright infuriating. There are countless examples. Don’t make me tell you about the time she told me a 5 looked like a 4. I do be having my mind on money, yo. And everything I have reported here isn’t even new information. It’s all been out there long before I finally had to say my piece. Hey, let’s all go on Blind Date (never!). We all need the four hundred dollars. Or is it five hundred, I mean the numbers look so similar.

3. The inner circle. Genesis said that she didn’t know it was personal. I did say in the inner circle, “I personally don’t like her” before I made my request to vote her off. I don’t know how much clearer that could be. That inner circle deliberation was five minutes and in those cinco minutos, we unanimously voted Julie off. I wish to God that they hadn’t edited out Amaya looking at the time and saying, “Guys, it’s only been five minutes. Should we stay the whole hour so we don’t look like assholes?” The reason why Genesis could say it was NOT personal in the announcement is because for two and a half out of four of the people in the group, it wasn’t. There was no coercion, no gun at anybody’s temple. Support gun control.

4. Emily talked some doo doo about how I should have gone up and said that it was because I didn’t like her. See number four. It would have been bad PR for me to go up there and rehash all the things I already told Julie to her face. I take being slighted by a “friend” very seriously and it just so happens that Julie missed her flight on the way to Jamaica. Had she not missed the flight, I would have told her the business to her face privately BEFORE filming and we wouldn’t have this here episode. The reason why it happened like that is because she rolled up in my bedroom talking about “Hi Melissa” all phony, faker than a Gucci bag in Chinatown, and that just set me off. They actually show her uncomfortable smile when she’s going through the doors of the pink room and into the orange room. They don’t show me, the person she’s uncomfortably smiling at, giving her the “don’t even try that fake mess with me” face. You’ll have to rewind.

5. And lastly, interesting how on the episode Julie only really talked to Road Rules people who would have no idea about the entanglements of RW stuff. Shane? Ellen? Anne? Ayanna? Interesting. And as far as Dan, who gave such an empowering speech about Julie not being the weakest link on our team, I forgive but only because he’s fashionably Jesus with that gorgeous hair. For sure, nobody doubts her athletic prowess. She can run, kick, throw better than all the girls and more than half the guys, but who cares about that shit? This is the Real World Road Rules Battle of the Sexes, where you get to see all the people you kinda like, all the people we totally can’t stand all as grown ass people doing crazy tricks. Does anybody really care about how fast we run?

And that’s all I have to say about that. Now, who will light the match and officially set fire to The Julie Chronicles? Yes, let’s burn it down. After two years of sitting on this information, I genuinely don’t care anymore. And even though Julie misrepresented me again recently to an online magazine (Real World Road Rules Blog) by saying ridiculously that I would be posing for Playboy, I have no anger, just sadness that she still doesn’t understand the power of shut up about me. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ll practice what I preach and officially shut up about her.

Updated by: Melissa
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Reply #2 posted 01/16/03 3:12am

TRON

Julie's Rebuttal from MTV's Website
Jan 13 2003

This appeared as Julie's side of the story on MTV's website.

While I hate to add to this silly drama, I feel the need to stand up for myself regarding the novel that Melissa has posted on MTV's website - a discourse designed to further slander my name and character, in a feeble attempt to build up her own. First of all, I am surprised that kicking me off the Battle of the Sexes was not enough for Melissa. She now feels the need to not only turn other cast members whom I have never even met against me, but she also has found a forum at MTV.com to further rant to the world. After her "chronicle", she writes, "I'll practice what I preach and officially shut up about her." Let's hope, although I doubt we should be so lucky. Drama has always been Melissa's self-admitted strong suit.

In an attempt to save everyone's sanity, I will omit any pop-culture references from my rebuttal to Melissa. This will keep it shorter and much less annoying, as I am sure no one cares about my opinions on J-lo's grooming habits.

Although Melissa is not the only passenger on this out-of-control train of hearsay and unfounded gossip, keep in mind that I write this to Melissa. Since she is incapable of real interaction (she has "been advised not to speak with me"), I unfortunately must resort to a public platform, apparently Melissa's forum of choice.

Dear Mel,

1. It's foolish to claim that you do not rally others against me. How else did I get kicked off the challenge? You lied to others behind my back about my character. You made a spectacle in front of the camera and in front of the team. Your purpose was, in your words, "telling Julie directly how much I despised her." Sweetie, I already knew. You've been reminding me for the last year. Of course, you knew that I knew your feelings. You just wanted everyone else to know. And you are right; it would take more than three days to undo the damage that you've busied yourself with causing for the last year. Frankly, I have better things to do than try to defend myself against your incessant drama.

2. Despite how my name is spelled (since that point is so very relevant), I was never aware or a part of any "misrepresentations". I am not an agent and certainly do not represent you. If you agreed to be represented by an agent that also represented me, and that agent then misrepresented you to a client, it is not at all my fault. I don't call schools. It's unprofessional. And while I have caught wind of your attempts to contact schools that have hired me and have them "uninvite" me, I have never been asked by any organization not to come. I have arrived at each show and given my best performance because that is what the client paid for.

And speaking of money, I am surprised that you cannot just admit to the world exactly what it is that you are angry at me about. It's not about your immature and unfounded claims that I am "the devil," a "rabid dog" and the girl who "no one on The Real World likes." Bottom line, you are mad that I don't charge as much as you do, and consequently receive more work. That's all it is. Schools pick me because they get a good show and a band for a very low price. I have every right to charge whatever I think I am worth. Similarly, you set your fee to what you think you are worth. Here's a little lesson on supply and demand. Because your fee is higher you get less jobs, but in the end you make more on the jobs you do get. In the end, we all have plenty of money.

Please, don't be so obtuse to believe that my charging a lower price is me stealing jobs from you. No baby, it's me being competitive with you. Welcome to the real world. It's not dishonest; it's business. I am not trash-talking you to anyone, although you'd like to think so. I'm just charging less. Unfortunately, the only way you know to be competitive is to do whatever you can to tear down your competitor. I never hurt you intentionally. I've never lied to or about you. I even apologized to you when you deserved no apology in an attempt to mend this contention. I don't hate you Melissa, and never will. I am just disappointed in you. We were friends and still could be except for the fact that you are allowing money to get in the way.

3. It is good to hear you admit that your conspiring against me on the Challenge was personal. Now you need to understand that it was inappropriate. We were a team. Your actions were not done in our team's best interest. You convinced Genesis, who knew nothing of your motives that I was a bad teammate by lying about me. The other girls didn't know that I was a good competitor, but you did. In your words, "She can run, kick, throw better than all the girls and more than half the guys." Still, you let them think that I was a girly-girly who sat around on the phone doing my make-up. Dishonesty, Melissa--that is dishonesty. And the worst part is that you hurt your team in the process for your own selfish, jealous motives.

So here's your chance to redeem yourself and keep your word, Melissa. You raised a fuss. You got your drama, your attention and your little revenge. Now why don't you practice what you preach, Princess.

P.S. Thank you, MTV, for putting on BunkBed Incident behind Melissa's scene of kicking me off. It sounded great and we've gotten amazing response!
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Reply #3 posted 01/16/03 3:13am

TRON

Shortening this thread for the sake of readability.
[This message was edited Thu Jan 16 12:45:29 PST 2003 by TRON]
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Reply #4 posted 01/16/03 3:14am

TRON

See above. biggrin
[This message was edited Thu Jan 16 12:46:12 PST 2003 by TRON]
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Reply #5 posted 01/16/03 3:23am

TRON

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Reply #6 posted 01/16/03 3:25am

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Reply #7 posted 01/16/03 4:17am

Rhondab

you know I'm a real world fanatic since the first one and I actually believe Melissa in all of this. (like I should really care) I do think Julie is sneaky and maybe a liar. I just remember what she did by signing Matts guest book and she didn't care that it hurt his feelings.

Interesting little battle!
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Reply #8 posted 01/16/03 5:47am

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jeez

LoL
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