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Thread started 11/06/09 11:22am

Dayclear

Why are the men in this world losing it??

I would like to know if you think men are under too much stress or too violent? What is it??
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Reply #1 posted 11/06/09 11:25am

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I feel that a lack of compassion, empathy and opportunity as well as society's overall closed-mindedness is driving certain individuals to react violently.

That and the recent upsurge in weapons & ammunition sales are huge contributors to these deadly outbursts.

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Reply #2 posted 11/06/09 11:30am

CarrieMpls

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It is a serious problem that needs a serious solution.

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I don't think we even know where to start. It's been happening as long as humans have existed.
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Reply #3 posted 11/06/09 11:31am

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RenHoek said:

I feel that a lack of compassion, empathy and opportunity as well as society's overall closed-mindedness is driving certain individuals to react violently.

That and the recent upsurge in weapons & ammunition sales are huge contributors to these deadly outbursts.

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I agree that this is a big part of it
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Reply #4 posted 11/06/09 11:32am

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CarrieMpls said:

It is a serious problem that needs a serious solution.

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I don't think we even know where to start. It's been happening as long as humans have existed.

exactly.
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Reply #5 posted 11/06/09 11:34am

NDRU

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peacenlovealways said:

CarrieMpls said:

It is a serious problem that needs a serious solution.

sad

I don't think we even know where to start. It's been happening as long as humans have existed.

exactly.


yes, If anything I think men are less violent as a whole than they would be naturally
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Reply #6 posted 11/06/09 11:36am

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Honestly, I think the Western World thinking is of the mindset of "entitlement" and that is why people can't deal with what they have. BTW, "what we have" is one hell of alot if you stop to think about it. People need a reality check and should stop feeling sorry for themselves.

heheh - if you can afford weapons and ammo, things can't be all THAT bad smile.
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Reply #7 posted 11/06/09 11:39am

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What about women? You know, the ones who drown their babies in a lake, or cut off their arms and legs while singing "Amazing Grace"?

It's not a "men" thing, it's a HUMAN thing, coupled w/ evil.

In a world that "celebrates diversity", everyone has become a clone, and feelings are mass produced in a process of brain-washing the people into believing whatever they'll eat up. Humanity has gotten lost in the haze of self-help books, and 8 minute fixes. Yet silently, while we all look like "we're just being ourselves" on the outside, trouble is brewing inside.

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Reply #8 posted 11/06/09 11:43am

NDRU

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ernestsewell said:

What about women?


Aside from committing actual violence, women have a long history of standing by their violent men.

Adolf Hitler had a girlfriend, that's all that needs to be said!
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Reply #9 posted 11/06/09 11:44am

ernestsewell

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Adolf Hitler had a girlfriend, that's all that needs to be said!

So did John Lennon.
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Reply #10 posted 11/06/09 11:48am

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This shit happens and always will. Its natural.
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Reply #11 posted 11/06/09 11:50am

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everybody got problems shrug
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Reply #12 posted 11/06/09 11:53am

Dayclear

Maybe we just need a hug. smile



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Reply #13 posted 11/06/09 12:02pm

CarrieMpls

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ernestsewell said:


It's not a "men" thing, it's a HUMAN thing


Yes, humans are violent, but the vast majority of violent acts are carried out by men. I think it's fair to look at violence that comes from men and women differently.
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Reply #14 posted 11/06/09 12:14pm

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The difference to me is women dont go out and have killing sprees killing lots of random people for whatever reasons, and there are very very few women serial killers.. but yes, women do kill, but its usually their children or husband...which to say that seems like im saying its better or different in some way...which it isnt... idk..... Its all sad and its something most of us will NEVER understand...
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Reply #15 posted 11/06/09 12:28pm

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CarrieMpls said:

ernestsewell said:


It's not a "men" thing, it's a HUMAN thing


Yes, humans are violent, but the vast majority of violent acts are carried out by men. I think it's fair to look at violence that comes from men and women differently.


I agree. Men often seem like nature's experiment.
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Reply #16 posted 11/06/09 12:32pm

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hmm interesting hmmm
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Reply #17 posted 11/06/09 1:31pm

NDRU

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CarrieMpls said:

ernestsewell said:


It's not a "men" thing, it's a HUMAN thing


Yes, humans are violent, but the vast majority of violent acts are carried out by men. I think it's fair to look at violence that comes from men and women differently.


you are correct, but women enable/accept this kind of behavior it's almost as bad
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Reply #18 posted 11/06/09 1:34pm

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It's the men.....!!!!! sperm beatdeadhorse
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Reply #19 posted 11/06/09 2:04pm

kenlacam

Dayclear said:

I would like to know if you think men are under too much stress or too violent? What is it??

I am assuming that when you say "men", you are referring to humans in general, not just men. With that being said ( I had to clarify that to make sure this isn't a sexist thread), I believe that the level of stress is HUGE, and, I don't condone violence but some people don't know any better so that is what they resort to. There are other options for relaxing oneself (another story for another time), but it is unexcusable to be violent. If this IS directed towards men, then I have to say that it is WOMEN that drive us to insanity. There you have it! lol
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Reply #20 posted 11/06/09 2:10pm

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kenlacam said:

Dayclear said:

I would like to know if you think men are under too much stress or too violent? What is it??

I am assuming that when you say "men", you are referring to humans in general, not just men. With that being said ( I had to clarify that to make sure this isn't a sexist thread), I believe that the level of stress is HUGE, and, I don't condone violence but some people don't know any better so that is what they resort to. There are other options for relaxing oneself (another story for another time), but it is unexcusable to be violent. If this IS directed towards men, then I have to say that it is WOMEN that drive us to insanity. There you have it! lol

whateva! talk to the hand
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Reply #21 posted 11/06/09 2:15pm

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The world is going to hell in a hand-basket. sad
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Reply #22 posted 11/06/09 2:19pm

Harlepolis

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CarrieMpls said:



Yes, humans are violent, but the vast majority of violent acts are carried out by men. I think it's fair to look at violence that comes from men and women differently.


you are correct, but women enable/accept this kind of behavior it's almost as bad


Some women trigger that violence too.

I agree though, its a human issue rather than a gender issue.
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Reply #23 posted 11/06/09 2:51pm

kenlacam

peacenlovealways said:

kenlacam said:


I am assuming that when you say "men", you are referring to humans in general, not just men. With that being said ( I had to clarify that to make sure this isn't a sexist thread), I believe that the level of stress is HUGE, and, I don't condone violence but some people don't know any better so that is what they resort to. There are other options for relaxing oneself (another story for another time), but it is unexcusable to be violent. If this IS directed towards men, then I have to say that it is WOMEN that drive us to insanity. There you have it! lol

whateva! talk to the hand

Truth hurts, dont' it? lol just kidding.
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Reply #24 posted 11/06/09 3:02pm

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CarrieMpls said:

ernestsewell said:


It's not a "men" thing, it's a HUMAN thing


Yes, humans are violent, but the vast majority of violent acts are carried out by men. I think it's fair to look at violence that comes from men and women differently.


Women kill with words. That s why they like to gossip.
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Reply #25 posted 11/06/09 3:22pm

CarrieMpls

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NDRU said:

CarrieMpls said:



Yes, humans are violent, but the vast majority of violent acts are carried out by men. I think it's fair to look at violence that comes from men and women differently.


you are correct, but women enable/accept this kind of behavior it's almost as bad


I have to call bullshit on this one. If you're talking about domestic violence and women who go back to an abuser, anyway. You don't blame the victim. Period. Fear is incredibly powerful. Especially fear for your life and the lives of your children. (As in, afraid you will be killed if you try to leave rather than put up with abuse in the meantime.) And it goes beyond that as well. Psychological abuse does a number on people.

But if you're talking about women not rising up and changing the world, well, then yes, we're a party to that. We all are.
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Reply #26 posted 11/06/09 3:23pm

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Harlepolis said:

NDRU said:



you are correct, but women enable/accept this kind of behavior it's almost as bad


Some women trigger that violence too.


There is no such thing. Nothing deserves a violent response, other than self defense.
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Reply #27 posted 11/06/09 3:25pm

kenlacam

True, but why would a woman in her right mind stay with someone who is violent towards them? I have a hard time finding sympathy for those who stay in an abusive relationship. Get the Hell out if he is beating that azz!
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Reply #28 posted 11/06/09 3:27pm

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CarrieMpls said:

NDRU said:



you are correct, but women enable/accept this kind of behavior it's almost as bad


I have to call bullshit on this one. If you're talking about domestic violence and women who go back to an abuser, anyway. You don't blame the victim. Period. Fear is incredibly powerful. Especially fear for your life and the lives of your children. (As in, afraid you will be killed if you try to leave rather than put up with abuse in the meantime.) And it goes beyond that as well. Psychological abuse does a number on people.

But if you're talking about women not rising up and changing the world, well, then yes, we're a party to that. We all are.


Yeah I'm not talking about abused women, I'm talking about women who know their men are violent and stand by them anyway--ie choose an evil guy and they most likely had wives & girlfriends. People who have known histories of violence.
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Reply #29 posted 11/06/09 3:29pm

kenlacam

I know. I'm just sayin.
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