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Thread started 10/08/09 2:19pm

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Study: Women on the pill prefer effeminate men

From the NY Daily News:

From rugged to softies, how the Pill has helped change women's taste in men
By Mike O'Brien
Daily News Staff Writer

Thursday, October 8th 2009, 12:33 AM

It gave women control over their own sex life, their fertility, their everything, it seems.

But now the Pill, the modern miracle of the 1960s, is being blamed in part on women's changing taste in men.

London's dailymail.co.uk reports that scientists have discovered in a new study how the hormones in the oral contraceptive suppress a woman's interest in masculine men and make boyish men more attractive.

The change may only occur for a handful of days each month but, given that the pill has been around for 40 years, it has more than likely been highly influential.

Consider the shift in tastes from rugged, manly stars of the 1950s and 1960s such as a young Sean Connery, Marlon Brando and Steve McQueen to the heartthrobs of recent years. The 1990s brought you good-looking men with great, well proportioned facial features such stars such as Johnny Depp and Brad Pitt.

Now, pretty boys such as Zac Efron and Chace Crawford are the sex symbols du jour.

It could be argued that the rise in popularity of the floppy-haired, smooth-skinned brigade could be explained by moves to market films and merchandise to an ever younger age group.

But Dr. Alexandra Alvergne, of the University of Sheffield, tells the Daily Mail, "There are many obvious benefits of the Pill for women, but there is also the possibility that the Pill has psychological side-effects that we are only just discovering.

"We need further studies to find out what these are."

The relationship between the Pill and sexual preferences are detailed in the journal Trends in Ecology and Evolution.

It is not new that scientists have known that a woman's taste in men changes over her menstrual cycle.

During the few days each month when women are fertile - the time of ovulation - they tend to prefer masculine features and men who are more assertive.

But research has shown that on days when women are not fertile, their tastes swing towards more feminine, boyish faces and more caring personalities.

If women are taking the Pill, however, they no longer have fertile days, which means they do not experience the hormonal changes that make them more attracted to masculine men.

Although the effect is subtle, Dr. Alvergne said it could alter women's view of male attractiveness. 'It is a possibility," she said. "We need a lot more research in this area."

In her paper, Dr. Alvergne reviewed seven studies showing how the Pill can change women's behavior.

She also found evidence from three studies that the Pill can affect the way women are looked at by men.

http://www.nydailynews.co...z0TNi6DMHc


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Reply #1 posted 10/08/09 2:23pm

Dayclear

I think that's bull.
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Reply #2 posted 10/08/09 2:41pm

Mars23

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So, you're saying Bria is on the pill?
Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it.
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Reply #3 posted 10/08/09 2:42pm

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Mars23 said:

So, you're saying Bria is on the pill?

lol
I graduated bitches!!! 12-19-09 woot! dancing jig
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Reply #4 posted 10/08/09 2:42pm

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not true...imo
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Reply #5 posted 10/08/09 3:12pm

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Mars23 said:

So, you're saying Bria is on the pill?

falloff
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Reply #6 posted 10/08/09 3:18pm

DanceWme

crap
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Reply #7 posted 10/08/09 3:46pm

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Bullshit.

Firstly, Zac Efron and his ilk are not effeminate. They're young (or young looking, at least) boyish, and soft in a way Brando wasn't. But not effeminate.

Second, a taste for a certain kind of effeminacy in male partners by women is highly selective and, while only happening in certain segments of the female population, is as old as Moses.
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
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Reply #8 posted 10/08/09 4:00pm

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I like men that are sensitive to my needs, but I want them a bit manly...I don't want them dressing better than me or spending more time in the mirror than me.
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Reply #9 posted 10/08/09 4:02pm

NDRU

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falloff I love the org's armchair scientists calling bullshit.
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Reply #10 posted 10/08/09 4:03pm

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peacenlovealways said:

I don't want them dressing better than me or spending more time in the mirror than me.



I would get on your last nerve ...haha
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Reply #11 posted 10/08/09 4:17pm

Vendetta1

Hell I don't.
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Reply #12 posted 10/08/09 4:20pm

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peacenlovealways said:

I like men that are sensitive to my needs, but I want them a bit manly...I don't want them dressing better than me or spending more time in the mirror than me.



lol but Morris looked so sexy vaccuming his crib while wearing that aunt jemima doo rag.
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Reply #13 posted 10/08/09 4:25pm

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Vendetta1 said:

Hell I don't.


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Reply #14 posted 10/08/09 4:34pm

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nyse said:

peacenlovealways said:

I don't want them dressing better than me or spending more time in the mirror than me.



I would get on your last nerve ...haha

lol
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Reply #15 posted 10/08/09 4:44pm

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NDRU said:

falloff I love the org's armchair scientists calling bullshit.

It is bullshit. First, because none of their examples are actually femme in any way. Second, if it held true, the shift in what male sex symbols look like would have happened decades ago when The Pill was first introduced and the hormone dosages stronger. Third, not enough women in the general population take hormonal birth control to account for a shift in overall attitudes regarding male attractiveness even if it were true that The Pill plays a role. I suspect that the shift in male attractiveness is not unlike the shift in female attractiveness. The "ideal" female body type now is considerably less curvy than the ideal in the 50's and early 60's, and yet no one is bemoaning whatever is causing men to lust after more masculine women. And yet a more boyish body shape is popular.

They're not even describing effeminacy, or women who genuinely find elements of girliness attractive. And many, many women do with no help from their PapaStopper pills. What they're in fact describing is the shift some women on The Pill experience in what they look for in a mate during certain times of their cycle. This is a shift that also happens in women not on hormonal birth control, and has been documented for years.

It's a shock tactic headline for a flawed study. Next!
[Edited 10/8/09 16:48pm]
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Reply #16 posted 10/08/09 4:51pm

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For the record, if you look at all the male celebrities who are genuinely femme that are or were considered sex symbols, they all have the normal secondary sex characteristics intact. Prince, Bowie, Brian Molko, Marilyn Manson...(I don't personally get that last one, but whatever) they all have broad shoulders, narrow hips, evidence of facial and body hair even if they carefully remove it, visible Adam's Apples, and more.
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Reply #17 posted 10/08/09 8:34pm

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nyse said:

not true...imo

Exactly! After all...I like u giggle.....













and Prince lol
[Edited 10/8/09 20:34pm]
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #18 posted 10/09/09 12:26am

nyse

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^^^^
u just say that cause your nyse... kiss
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Reply #19 posted 10/09/09 2:50am

novabrkr

hmmm

So that's why women who have been in a stable relationship for quite some time already are interested in me?
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Reply #20 posted 10/09/09 2:52am

novabrkr

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visible Adam's Apples



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Reply #21 posted 10/09/09 10:51am

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shrug

I'm on the pill and I prefer this guy:

It's what you make it.
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Reply #22 posted 10/09/09 11:08am

pardonme4livin

I noticed Laurel hasn't responded to this...she must be taking like 3 pills a day... lol

tease
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Reply #23 posted 10/09/09 7:05pm

ZombieKitten

I married a very girly man rolleyes NOT
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Reply #24 posted 10/11/09 1:29am

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Here is a 'real man' imo - one who is not afraid of showing his emotions [including crying], even in front of the camera.
They might be called 'effeminate, but in my eyes they are the strong ones, who are not scared of showing how they feel and what the rest of the world thinks of them. These men are rare I believe...

video clip of several of Johnny Weir's crying moments:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #25 posted 10/12/09 10:38am

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meow85 said:

NDRU said:

falloff I love the org's armchair scientists calling bullshit.

It is bullshit. First, because none of their examples are actually femme in any way. Second, if it held true, the shift in what male sex symbols look like would have happened decades ago when The Pill was first introduced and the hormone dosages stronger. Third, not enough women in the general population take hormonal birth control to account for a shift in overall attitudes regarding male attractiveness even if it were true that The Pill plays a role. I suspect that the shift in male attractiveness is not unlike the shift in female attractiveness. The "ideal" female body type now is considerably less curvy than the ideal in the 50's and early 60's, and yet no one is bemoaning whatever is causing men to lust after more masculine women. And yet a more boyish body shape is popular.

They're not even describing effeminacy, or women who genuinely find elements of girliness attractive. And many, many women do with no help from their PapaStopper pills. What they're in fact describing is the shift some women on The Pill experience in what they look for in a mate during certain times of their cycle. This is a shift that also happens in women not on hormonal birth control, and has been documented for years.

It's a shock tactic headline for a flawed study. Next!
[Edited 10/8/09 16:48pm]


I think you're confusing the article (which may be bullshit) with the study.

The study didn't mention Zak Efron, the article did.

The study said the changes only happened for a few days each month, the article suggested that a shift had occurred over a long period of time to change the nature of male sex symbols in our culture.

I see why you came to this conclusion, however. The article barely mentioned any facts from the study and instead drew its own sweeping conclusions.
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