missfee said:

I know, but it's true. People don't watch soaps like they used to. Sure, Victor may be a main character, but if he was refusing to take a paycut to keep the show afloat, Y&R has the right to fire him.

Also, a few soaps have used this same tactic and it actually increased their ratings. For instance, OLTL killed off Asa and their ratings shot up. Also, just because Asa is dead doesn't mean his presence is not felt. The writers of the show have done a great job of letting you feel that Asa and his family are in charge and are transitioning. Not to mention, they wrote a brilliant story line about David Vickers possibly being a Buchanan. So, just because Y&R is killing Victor off, doesn't mean the show won't survive.

I highly recommend you guys visit Daytime Confidential's site. They have the real story on a lot of soaps (including Y&R, AMC, OLTL and others).
[Edited 10/11/09 9:50am]

daPrettyman said:

I understand your opinion as a whole, but the writing on Y&R lately has been sucky anyway....and therefore, yes it does mean that killing Victor off means the show won't survive.

Let's just agree to disagree with each other.

missfee said:

I agree to disagree.

Do you listen to any soap podcasts? Podcasts like Daytime Confidential have an inside scoop and post spoilers as well as behind the scenes info. It's very informative and you really start to look at soaps in a different way.

daPrettyman said:

No I haven't listened to any but I'm open to it. I'll search it out and see what it's talking about.

http://daytimeconfidentia...aketh-away

Viewers Giveth to Young and Restless, And Viewers Taketh Away
Submitted by Jamey Giddens on October 9, 2009 - 8:24am

Genoa City lovers might have tuned in to see the climax of the Mary Jane/Patty saga the week before, but they didn't stick around for the fallout (Source: SON). For the week of Sept. 28-Oct. 2, The Young and the Restless lost 314,000 total viewers, and dropped back down two-tenths of a point in households. I guess even with stellar acting and impressive writing for the week, faux dead babies, grieving legacy families, rampant psychosis and patriarchs on heart pumps wasn't exactly most viewer's cup of Crimson Lights coffee. (Side note: When was the last time anyone we cared about actually made good, hot steamy love on this soap?) Y&R did manage to hold steady among women 18-49.

Y&R's kid sister sudser, The Bold and the Beautiful dropped 125,000 viewers total viewers over the previous week. B&B also went down one-tenth of a point in households, yet didn't budge among women 18-49, tied at the soap's all-time low for that demograpic. As The World Turns shed 168,000 viewers and dropped one-tenth of a ratings point in households. ATWT held steady among women 18-49, however. P&G's last soap was down year-to-date 346,000 total viewers, two-tenths of a ratings point in households and three-tenths of a ratings point among women 18-49.

Over at ABC, One Life to Live was the only soap to gain total viewers, but that isn't much to brag about. The Mouse House's best sudser inched up just 3,000 total viewers over the week (Hey, as long as it's enough to beat All My Children!). OLTL held steady in households (tied with AMC), yet lost one-tenth of a ratings point among women 18-49, yet still managed to beat—wait for it—AMC in that demo. WATCH ONE LIFE TO LIVE! Speaking of AMC, the Pratt-tastrophe lost 74,000 total viewers over the week. AMC also dropped one-tenth of a ratings point in households, yet held steady among women 18-49. ABC's flagship soap, General Hospital lost 35,000 total viewers over the week, and held steady in households. The rapidly improving sudser did go up one-tenth of a point among women 18-49.

Last, but certainly not least, NBC's lone sudser, Days of Our Lives, saw 39,000 new or returning total viewers tune in to the goings on in Salem. DAYS is up year-to-date a genre-inspiring 397,000 total viewers. DAYS held steady in households (up two-tenths of a point year-to-date), and among women 18-49. If DAYS hasn't satisfied whatever metrics NBC needed to justify keeping it on air, the Peacock will have anarchy on their hands!

http://daytimeconfidentia...was-rushed



In the wake of the news of Eric Braeden's departure from The Young and the Restless, the actor frankly discussed his alter ego Victor's exit with Entertainment Weekly's Lynette Rice.

What does this say about the state of the industry when a production company is asking the star of the No. 1 show in daytime to take a pay cut? Should everyone be worried?

Yes, though it depends on what the star does. All options are open right now. What can I tell you? I know there are certain economic realities that dictate the actions they are taking right now, but the manner in which its being done is most insulting.

You taped your last episode on Sept. 23. Was that the way you wanted Victor to go?

No. It was rushed. It was obviously meant to intimidate. It was obviously done with enormous forethought to coincide with the end of the 26-week cycle. Essentially that is what the business is doing now and has been doing for a while. And quite frankly, it’s outrageous. When I sign a three-year deal, I’m obligated to fulfill that deal. The producers, however, can come to me after a half-year and say, “We’ve changed our minds.” Where in the world of business does this kind of contract exist? Do I blame the people for wanting to squeeze as much out of us as they can? I do not. The question is, when do you squeeze too much?

I'll bet the other soap operas are dying to get him on their show. Eric Braedan will turn up somewhere else watch.

^That man has aged gracefully. When he was younger, he was nowhere near as handsome as he is now.

Dayclear said:

no matter where he appears he's always victor




[Edited 10/11/09 17:14pm]

Fury said:

Dude looks like he came out the womb lookin' 45 with a 'stache

Looks like Eric Braeden is not leaving after all. Looks like an agreement has been reached.YES! Victor lives!

http://www.soapcentral.co...raeden.php
[Edited 10/25/09 11:06am]

That's right, Pay the man!