This is my third topic start!

I'm watching ET, and apparently Rosie O broke up with her wife or vice versa??

They have 4 kids, right?

Wow...

Well... it happens.
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Now c'mon...

Doesn't anyone have an opinion about this?

There's been 5 views..

I'll start:

Bummer.

Donald Trump warned Rosie that he had a few lipstick lesbian friends of his own that could take THAT (Kelly). It's too bad that Rosie didn't believe him!

TonyVanDam said:

Thank you for being the first person ever reply to a thread I started!



Well.. I think they own a business together--according to ET... And you know ET knows for sure!

Awwwww

luv4u said:

It IS sad.

Apparently.. according to ET.. Rosie was crying during some interview..

I feel badly for her.

I know same sex marriage (still!) isn't legal in the States, but are the apostrophes on wife necessary? You do know in that context it looks like sarcasm, right?

Yeah, like ET is a reliable source anymore.


Rosie HERSELF stated that her and Kelly are working through some tough times, and that's all she's going to say on it. She also said that they'll always be a family.

ET is a step below The Enquirer.

I don't think they have broken up,I think Kelli has just moved out while they are working through their issues.

deadmansbones said:

1. You're welcome.

2. Rosie VS. Donald is one of the greatest public feuds of all-times!

Wife, not "wife".

meow85 said:

Oops, missed this post.

"fuck" Rosie

roodboi said:

That is the correct usage, because I'm assuming you wouldn't literally.

johnart said:

that's how I "roll"

roodboi said:

You're the "coolest".

johnart said:

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roodboi said:

roodboi said:

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johnart said:

who would?

meow85 said:

I fixed it because I'm new here, and I don't want to make a bad impression. It was an honest mistake.

For the record, I was trying to be respectful. I wasn't sure if wife was appropriate. I used wife in my post though.

I just don't know if Rosie herself uses the term wife. Some married heterosexual married couples don't use the terms husband and wife, preferring partner. Not ALL heterosexual married couples buy into the husband and wife thing.

I mean.. in a heterosexual marriage, there's husband and wife, but traditionally "wife" is more of a subordinate term by connotation. (Should I use quotes there? :confused:) The term wife comes with a lot of baggage and history, so not every woman is comfortable with being referred to as someone's wife. It's a role not all women subscribe to.

In a ss-marriage, there is no subordinate term, is there because marriage is an equal partnership, right? So I wasn't sure if wife was the correct term for Rosie and her... wife and/or partner.

In all relationships I prefer life-partner. The married (whether by law or not) gay couples we know use the term life-partner--even in formal presentations. However, we don't know any lesbian couples.

Things are changing so I hope the gay community can be patient with some of us having these kinds of earnest questions. Some of us really don't know the appropriate term to use. And in this case, I really wasn't sure.
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bboy87 said:

Apparently no longer Kelly.

deadmansbones said:

We all say/write stuff that don't sit well with others from time to time around here. Sometimes as honest mistakes, sometimes as jokes that totally tank, sometimes just cuz we're being dicks. Your quotation use is not the end of the world.

Also, be advised that when we catch shit like that (especially if we find any trace of humor in it) we will run it to the ground.
Welcome to the Org.

johnart said:

wrong post!
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deadmansbones said:

Thank you, I'm here all week. :takesbow:

johnart said:

Thanks for the welcome!

But I guess it all depends upon your perspective on whether or not it's a mistake. I guess in the gay community it's a mistake(?), but being a "wife" isn't a badge of honor for all women. In fact, it's offensive to some--even within a marriage. I guess for lesbian married couples, it's a way to show they're married because being two women, they're inherently equal in the relationship. For heterosexual married couples, there is a different connotation for the word wife:


http://www.ask.metafilter...-the-word-

deadmansbones said:[quote]

johnart said:

I think that's over thinking the whole thing.

I'm sure there's folk who want to get all deep on gender/spousal roles but I don't think I've ever personally met a wife who thought being referred to as a wife was offensive. As being referred to or treated as just a wife, sure, but not about the term that she was, in the relationship wife to her husband/wife.

johnart said:

Well you've met one now! I don't like the term "wife." I never liked being someone's girlfriend or wifey or wife. I guess for some women, it's a term of endearment and/or status. God forbid not being taken, ya know? To me, the term life-partner is just so much more accurate describing the what the relationship is.

However, I'll give you marriage is defined by the terms husband and wife at this point--in roles reflecting patriarchal institution.

Also, did you read the link I provided? Believe it or not, there are even some lesbian couples having a problem with the term wife. So I wasn't completely off-base. It's all a matter of perspective.

I think it's sort of interesting how words are changing. I mean... I guess for some lesbian couples it's like being a wife is an elevation in social status from being a mere partner. I guess for some gay couples being a husband is an elevation in social status. But for some women involved in a heterosexual relationship, being a wife in the traditional sense ain't all that. In fact, for some feminists being a wife is actually negative. So some of us actual prefer partner to wife! We don't want our roles to be defined by our marriage necessarily to serve, honor, and obey. Partner implies more equality.

I prefer partner. I don't obey anybody but myself!

P.S. I also don't use Mrs. I hate being referred to Mrs so and so. I'm still Ms. My legal name is hyphenated. In other words I never dropped my maiden name!

This is stating the obvious, but I just think that the gay culture is quite different from the heterosexual culture. I think heterosexual marriages have this different dynamic--the legal issue not withstanding.
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Here's two more quotes from the same link:


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deadmansbones said:

I understand.

Still, thanks for changing it.