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Thread started 10/24/09 9:29pm

phunkdaddy

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MP3 compression question

I was wondering if there was a site you
could go to so you could convert 192 bit rate
or higher MP3's into 128 bit rate MP3's.
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Reply #1 posted 10/24/09 9:56pm

LeCram

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Reply #2 posted 10/24/09 10:43pm

japanrocks

what is the difference?
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Reply #3 posted 10/24/09 11:39pm

ZombieKitten

japanrocks said:

what is the difference?

file size
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Reply #4 posted 10/25/09 12:14am

LeCram

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sound quality
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Reply #5 posted 10/25/09 1:20am

Imago

phunkdaddy said:

I was wondering if there was a site you
could go to so you could convert 192 bit rate
or higher MP3's into 128 bit rate MP3's.

You can do it in iTunes I think.


Make sure your preferences in iTunes are set to the type of compression you want to make (AAC, MP3, M4p, etc.), then in the iTunes library, highlight the tracks, right-click and select "Make Mp3 versio" (it will say 'make AAC version' if you have the compression type in your preferences set to AAC instead). iTunes will then create copies of the tracks in the manner set by your preferences tab.

128 bit is sort of low end of fidelity though, and you may loose a bit of detail or 'bass' sound, though some people can't tell the difference--I have a hard time telling the difference without high-end earphones.

One thing you can do is set it to AAC or Mp3 VBR (variable bit rate). So the parts of the song that are quieter or not so busy are compressed in a lower bit-rate, while the parts that are louder/more busy are compressed in a higher bit-rate.
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Reply #6 posted 10/25/09 3:39am

GirlBrother

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phunkdaddy said:

I was wondering if there was a site you
could go to so you could convert 192 bit rate
or higher MP3's into 128 bit rate MP3's.


It's not a good idea to transcode MP3 files. They'll sound terrible. Why do you want to convert them?
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Reply #7 posted 10/25/09 4:12am

Dewrede

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mp3 is shit and should be outlawed

there's no excuse for compressing lossless digital music files into an inferior format



why would you wanna turn something that's shit in the first place turn into something even shittier ? confused lol
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Reply #8 posted 10/25/09 4:29am

ZombieKitten

Dewrede said:

mp3 is shit and should be outlawed

there's no excuse for compressing lossless digital music files into an inferior format



why would you wanna turn something that's shit in the first place turn into something even shittier ? confused lol


if someone has shit speakers at their computer and little hard disk space it probably doesn't matter lol

I solve this dilemma by simply never listening to music biggrin
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Reply #9 posted 10/25/09 4:41am

Dewrede

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shocked smile
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Reply #10 posted 10/25/09 4:44am

ZombieKitten

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shocked smile


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Reply #11 posted 10/25/09 4:46am

Dewrede

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hug biggrin
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Reply #12 posted 10/25/09 5:01am

GirlBrother

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Dewrede said:

mp3 is shit and should be outlawed

there's no excuse for compressing lossless digital music files into an inferior format


MP3 compression is fine - if used properly.
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Reply #13 posted 10/25/09 5:19am

Dewrede

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^

no , it's not
it degrades and butchers music's integrity

http://www.geocities.com/cfr707/mp3.htm
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Reply #14 posted 10/25/09 5:47am

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there's better ways to rip your cd's to your HD than converting them to mp3

Winamp (a free media player) enables you to rip (and play) them to FLAC files
(Free Lossless Audio Codec) (lossless meaning ; no loss in sound quality)

or you could do it with this http://flac.sourceforge.net/
(download the software)

to play FLAC files in Windows Media Player you need a codec
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Reply #15 posted 10/25/09 5:51am

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If compressed at low bitrates i will hear it, but on bitrates from 320 and higher i do not hear any difference. but it's half the size with a flac file.

and frequencies above 20.000 makes not much sense, the human ear can roughly hear 15-20.000 Hz. (with some exceptions offcourse)

http://hypertextbook.com/...rose.shtml
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Reply #16 posted 10/25/09 6:08am

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i can tell the difference @ higher bitrates too , for sure


yes when the music industry started making CD's they changed the frequency standard to upto 20.000 HZ thinking people wouldn't be able to tell the difference to vinyl

i believe this to be untrue

vinyl definitely sounds better than CD to my ears
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Reply #17 posted 10/25/09 6:10am

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Dewrede said:

i can tell the difference for sure


yes when the music industry started making CD's they changed the frequency standard to upto 20.000 HZ thinking people wouldn't be able to tell the difference to vinyl

i believe this to be untrue

vinyl definitely sounds better than CD to my ears



I understand what you mean to me vinyl sounds warmer but must say that mp3 is easier to carry around.

but Im going to rip all my cds into flac files
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Reply #18 posted 10/25/09 6:11am

ZombieKitten

oldpurple said:

Dewrede said:

i can tell the difference for sure


yes when the music industry started making CD's they changed the frequency standard to upto 20.000 HZ thinking people wouldn't be able to tell the difference to vinyl

i believe this to be untrue

vinyl definitely sounds better than CD to my ears



I understand what you mean to me vinyl sounds warmer but must say that mp3 is easier to carry around.

but Im going to rip all my cds into flac files


records feel way more toppy to me, but that's all shrug
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Reply #19 posted 10/25/09 6:22am

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oldpurple said:

Dewrede said:

i can tell the difference for sure


yes when the music industry started making CD's they changed the frequency standard to upto 20.000 HZ thinking people wouldn't be able to tell the difference to vinyl

i believe this to be untrue

vinyl definitely sounds better than CD to my ears



I understand what you mean to me vinyl sounds warmer but must say that mp3 is easier to carry around.

but Im going to rip all my cds into flac files



cool i ripped all my Prince cd's to my HD in FLAC smile
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Reply #20 posted 10/25/09 6:24am

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Dewrede said:

oldpurple said:




I understand what you mean to me vinyl sounds warmer but must say that mp3 is easier to carry around.

but Im going to rip all my cds into flac files



cool i ripped all my Prince cd's to my HD in FLAC smile
[Edited 10/25/09 6:23am]



how long did it take you and what programme did you use?
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Reply #21 posted 10/25/09 6:28am

GirlBrother

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Dewrede said:

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no , it's not
it degrades and butchers music's integrity

http://www.geocities.com/cfr707/mp3.htm


Most adults can't hear anything over 18 khz, so what's the use in keeping the higher frequency data?

I used to be overly precious about lossless audio too, but a simple online hearing test changed my mind forever.
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Reply #22 posted 10/25/09 6:40am

Dewrede

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did you perform the test with low watt computer speakers ?
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Reply #23 posted 10/25/09 6:43am

GirlBrother

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Dewrede said:

did you perform the test with low watt computer speakers ?


I used my ears. lol
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Reply #24 posted 10/25/09 6:45am

LeCram

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For those who don't like the modern cd's and want the good ole vinyl experience biggrin

http://www.izotope.com/pr...dio/vinyl/
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Reply #25 posted 10/25/09 6:47am

ZombieKitten

LeCram said:

For those who don't like the modern cd's and want the good ole vinyl experience biggrin

http://www.izotope.com/pr...dio/vinyl/


VST! woot! that's for Cubase, right?
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Reply #26 posted 10/25/09 6:48am

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GirlBrother said:

Dewrede said:

did you perform the test with low watt computer speakers ?


I used my ears. lol


lol rolleyes
i'd think the results would depend on the equipment you use
that's why i asked
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Reply #27 posted 10/25/09 6:48am

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LeCram said:

For those who don't like the modern cd's and want the good ole vinyl experience biggrin

http://www.izotope.com/pr...dio/vinyl/


im at work so cant down load it whats it like?
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Reply #28 posted 10/25/09 6:50am

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LeCram said:

For those who don't like the modern cd's and want the good ole vinyl experience biggrin

http://www.izotope.com/pr...dio/vinyl/


hey that's cool , thanks
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Reply #29 posted 10/25/09 6:52am

LeCram

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ZombieKitten said:

LeCram said:

For those who don't like the modern cd's and want the good ole vinyl experience biggrin

http://www.izotope.com/pr...dio/vinyl/


VST! woot! that's for Cubase, right?


as far as i know nod
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