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PrintableFunny, my girl Desiree got it, she knows what I was getting at, you are stuck on me saying something about white mothers when that was obvious that's not what my post was about. That's basically it.
Yep, I understood you. We need to keep this thread on topic somewhat. This is not supposed to be a thread about who beats more kiddy ass but about why we do it or don't do it and where the discipline factor fits in. Pantha you can be mad it me cuz the whole thing started with me talkin' bout ethnic moms. But let's not get on each other's case. We can save that for another thread...or not. 
 Y'all make me wanna beat the shit out of somebody!!!!! 
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Is it wrong to say that there may be ethnic differences in the way people look at discipline?
Now there is nothing cultural about child abuse, that goes across all classes and cultures. However, one time I had to take the bus with my screaming daughter who was 4 at the time. She completely pulled a bad seed/ linda blair act. I was the only white person on the bus besides the driver. The ladies all said "that's what's wrong with these children, that girl needs a good slap!!!" I know had I cuffed her no one would have told on me. I said to the ladies " you don't understand, if she tells her daycare that I hit her they can report me. You can't even tap your kids without get the Department of Children and Families opening a case on you. I don't hit her but I am mot so sure that cuffing your kid, like a cat cuffs it's kittens, would be so bad. It's just the 2 of us and she thinks she deserves 50% of the power. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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Deadflow3r said: Is it wrong to say that there may be ethnic differences in the way people look at discipline?
Now there is nothing cultural about child abuse, that goes across all classes and cultures. However, one time I had to take the bus with my screaming daughter who was 4 at the time. She completely pulled a bad seed/ linda blair act. I was the only white person on the bus besides the driver. The ladies all said "that's what's wrong with these children, that girl needs a good slap!!!" I know had I cuffed her no one would have told on me. I said to the ladies " you don't understand, if she tells her daycare that I hit her they can report me. You can't even tap your kids without get the Department of Children and Families opening a case on you. I don't hit her but I am mot so sure that cuffing your kid, like a cat cuffs it's kittens, would be so bad. It's just the 2 of us and she thinks she deserves 50% of the power.  That depends, different tolerances are cultural when it comes to discipline across the board. But within such a diverse country like America, discipline becomes more of a individual preference and not so cultural.
I wonder if in a country where it isn't so diverse would it be the same? I can only speak of America because its what I know. | |
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paintedlady said: PanthaGirl said: Wow that's brutal. It was a simple question and I still don't see ur answer, if U took the time to clarify then this wouldn't be taking place. Ur not so subtle insults towards me are quite unecessary as I do not have 'rose coloured blinders' on when ur original statement indicated otherwise. Besides, U can also stop going on about my so called lack of understanding ethnics, cause ur forgetting a very important detail, I AM AN ETHNIC myself so my understanding is right up there with the best of them. this coming from a person that called me a pestilence to humanity.
OK, You need clarification to my "deception" well, its just this. When and offense is committed toward any one group, people only tend to stand up to that particular offense when it only involves the make-up their their own racial/ethnic group. Even though they see something that isn't kosher, they say nothing because "its not their problem" but if you twist it... and say something offensive to the group that commits the offense in the first place then watch the sensitivity scream out and shout "WTF??!!" but that isn't done otherwise. Why is that? So why is it that I have to offend people before they see that they should be more vocal about other offenses as well. Sometimes people only acknowledge wrongs done when it only hurts them. What I posted doesn't matter... its the reaction to that particular statement you should have been paying attention to. Funny, my girl Desiree got it, she knows what I was getting at, you are stuck on me saying something about white mothers when that was obvious that's not what my post was about. That's basically it.  i.e. backtrack to try to turn that plain as you like, unwitting contradiction in your post into something else. Got it.
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ultrablue said: paintedlady said: this coming from a person that called me a pestilence to humanity.
OK, You need clarification to my "deception" well, its just this. When and offense is committed toward any one group, people only tend to stand up to that particular offense when it only involves the make-up their their own racial/ethnic group. Even though they see something that isn't kosher, they say nothing because "its not their problem" but if you twist it... and say something offensive to the group that commits the offense in the first place then watch the sensitivity scream out and shout "WTF??!!" but that isn't done otherwise. Why is that? So why is it that I have to offend people before they see that they should be more vocal about other offenses as well. Sometimes people only acknowledge wrongs done when it only hurts them. What I posted doesn't matter... its the reaction to that particular statement you should have been paying attention to. Funny, my girl Desiree got it, she knows what I was getting at, you are stuck on me saying something about white mothers when that was obvious that's not what my post was about. That's basically it. i.e. backtrack to try to turn that plain as you like, unwitting contradiction in your post into something else. Got it.
. [Edited 10/19/09 15:48pm] nope, not back tracking... never denied what I said. THAT would be backtracking. Just explaining why I wrote what I wrote. | |
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paintedlady said: ultrablue said: i.e. backtrack to try to turn that plain as you like, unwitting contradiction in your post into something else. Got it.
. [Edited 10/19/09 15:48pm] nope, not back tracking... never denied what I said. THAT would be backtracking. Just explaining why I wrote what I wrote. Ok. Orgnoted. Sorry, was just being facetious.  | |
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ultrablue said: paintedlady said: nope, not back tracking... never denied what I said. THAT would be backtracking. Just explaining why I wrote what I wrote. Ok. Orgnoted. Sorry, was just being facetious. Its OK.  No harm no foul. | |
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well y'all the other day I caught mine sitting on the dresser he has previously broke trying to climb it, playing with his deoderant which is now broken into pieces, and generally fucking around for 45 minutes, instead of making his bed, putting on his clothes and getting ready for breakfast so he could finish his homework afterward that seems to take all weekend for him to do.....and I whupped that ass! 
...and all of a sudden he just as sweet as can be 
oh well...at least I did try for a while to give him the benefit of the doubt and choose to have some ackrite but it just isn't in his nature. He just ain't happy without me opening a can of whupass. Sorry. I fail. I am going to bed now because I must wake up with him at 5:45 in the morning, make sure he actually takes his medicine now instead of hiding it, and brushes his teeth like he's supposed to and gets dressed instead of playing around and arguing with his grandma and then I need to go over his homework, half of which is wrong again so he won't continue to get failing grades, because he just can't be trusted to ackrite of his own volition. You know when they said hard head makes soft behind. He got a head made of adamantium and I'm about to churn that behind into butter. But don't feel too bad y'all because I have explained it to him very thoroughly about how he can avoid whupass and he does every single thing he is told not to do....somtimes twice! He really does seem to enjoy this. Will I be surprised if he ends up into S&M shit? | |
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^  ohmahgoodness. 
 @ ackrite
Ok I want a baby now. I want to take Zahara off Brangelina's hands cuz I swear that kid always looks miserable. But she's probably too well behaved so I wouldn't have any fun. I need one of them mischevious little tykes. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: ^
ohmahgoodness.
@ ackrite
Ok I want a baby now. I want to take Zahara off Brangelina's hands cuz I swear that kid always looks miserable. But she's probably too well behaved so I wouldn't have any fun. I need one of them mischevious little tykes. She had me at "adamantium" Classic! | |
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BklynBabe said: well y'all the other day I caught mine sitting on the dresser he has previously broke trying to climb it, playing with his deoderant which is now broken into pieces, and generally fucking around for 45 minutes, instead of making his bed, putting on his clothes and getting ready for breakfast so he could finish his homework afterward that seems to take all weekend for him to do.....and I whupped that ass!
...and all of a sudden he just as sweet as can be
oh well...at least I did try for a while to give him the benefit of the doubt and choose to have some ackrite but it just isn't in his nature. He just ain't happy without me opening a can of whupass. Sorry. I fail. I am going to bed now because I must wake up with him at 5:45 in the morning, make sure he actually takes his medicine now instead of hiding it, and brushes his teeth like he's supposed to and gets dressed instead of playing around and arguing with his grandma and then I need to go over his homework, half of which is wrong again so he won't continue to get failing grades, because he just can't be trusted to ackrite of his own volition. You know when they said hard head makes soft behind. He got a head made of adamantium and I'm about to churn that behind into butter. But don't feel too bad y'all because I have explained it to him very thoroughly about how he can avoid whupass and he does every single thing he is told not to do....somtimes twice! He really does seem to enjoy this. Will I be surprised if he ends up into S&M shit? I so love to read your remarks 
Wish I had a straight up funny bitch like you to talk to all the time about my girl. She has no diagnosis but as my sister screamed at me; " I AM TELLING YOU...THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG SERIOUSLY WRONG ... WITH THAT GIRL" I keep saying she has a focus issue and I wanted her tested for ADD or ADHD her teacher says that she doesn't follow the pattern of other ADD kids she's had. Meanwhile I keep screaming at that kid to no avail. I sound like Darth Vadar, no shit, my voice gets all low and scary. I start to scare myself. She,however, just blows it off. Yesterday I got a call from the school nurse that the teacher sent her to the nurses office because they think she has a hearing problem. Now she has had tubes in her ears and has been tested by the ear doc but I guess it got bad again. So maybe she needs me to talk like Darth Vadar, who knew? Yesterday I also spent 9 hours cleaning the house for DCF ( the department of chilren and families) Yep we have an open case but the worker says that since there is never a problem with the house he will close our case by January. Our case is open because of "neglect" and I will need to write about that seperately. That's a WHOOOOOLE NOTHER STORY. THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR POSTS. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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What did I say?? No ones been on this thread since I posted 4 days ago. Did I singlehandedly kill it? I hope not, it was a great thread!!!! There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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