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PrintableDesireeNevermind said: paintedlady said: From my perspective, and IMO this is why I spank. I live in an urban environment with my children. Not in the safest neighborhood, although it is considered very "family oriented" with plenty of parks and a nearby beach. It is also the most densely populated by level 3 sex offenders than any other area in my city and shootings/violent acts occur on a regular basis here. I use spankings to teach on a very steep learning curve. Like "do it once only, because if you repeat that you can hurt yourself or someone else". I feel that where I live its a necessity to teach this way in order to safeguard my happy go lucky unaffected kids to be safe in their world. I do it to teach a healthy sense of fear that they would not other wise learn until they would be much older. I wonder if these studies are ever done in inner cities where danger is an ever present force. for me I spanked my kids when... -my son brought his swiss army knife to school ( he brought it to show off to his friends but he is a black kid and would have thrown away his future if he were caught with something so simple) -my son chased his sister with a butcher knife in the house -all three of them tried to stick bobby pins/keys in the sockets (yes, they removed the safety covers- all under age 2) -my son thought it was a good idea to jump in a strangers car and leave for icecream at age 4 -my daughter had an issue with wanting to get on men's laps at age 5 -my son hid from me in a department store for 1/2 an hour, thinking it was funny, he was 3 -my son (12) tried to make his younger (2) brother eat kenepas (a choke hazard) just to see what would happen I have very intelligent kids, I didn't want to rob them of their self esteem, but their safety was a greater concern for me. It may be barbaric, but with so many criminals and different cultures of people that are afraid to look out for other people's children, I had to make sure my kids could look out for themselves. sad but true. I don't regret ever spanking them, they are safe, happy and thriving in a not so forgiving city. IMHO in a less urban setting (fewer people/less crime) where many people speak the same language/culture and look out for one another's kids, spankings just aren't needed. I am sure many may disagree.   okay I'm leaning toward the side of spanking. Dayum girl...your darling little angels did all that? They look too innocent. 
I can relate to the sticking bobby pins in the light socket. My girlfriends 2 year old daughter used a fork and her little fingertipss turned black and she cried and cried. Her mom was too frightened and pannicky to spank her but I soooo wanted to cuz I felt bad for giving her the fork in the first place. I spanked them to prevent them from trying it again. The boys were lucky, after the spanking the boys didn't try it again ever. But the damn girl 
she succeed in heating up a key white hot and that key burned right through her flannel gown and her dermis.  She learned the hard way.
She also drank out the toilet for two years, and still eats lotion like its whipped cream, she likes the flavor of Jergens, Cetaphil, and Eurcerine best.  She is 7 now... the girl is a hazard to herself, Lord Jesus help me. | |
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paintedlady said: DesireeNevermind said: okay I'm leaning toward the side of spanking. Dayum girl...your darling little angels did all that? They look too innocent.
I can relate to the sticking bobby pins in the light socket. My girlfriends 2 year old daughter used a fork and her little fingertipss turned black and she cried and cried. Her mom was too frightened and pannicky to spank her but I soooo wanted to cuz I felt bad for giving her the fork in the first place. I spanked them to prevent them from trying it again. The boys were lucky, after the spanking the boys didn't try it again ever. But the damn girl
she succeed in heating up a key white hot and that key burned right through her flannel gown and her dermis. She learned the hard way.
She also drank out the toilet for two years, and still eats lotion like its whipped cream, she likes the flavor of Jergens, Cetaphil, and Eurcerine best. She is 7 now... the girl is a hazard to herself, Lord Jesus help me.OMG 
the little one (my friends' kid) drinks out of the toilet. She gets a cup and comes running to the toilet bowl like it's happy hour. dayum...cetaphil?   | |
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DesireeNevermind said: paintedlady said: I spanked them to prevent them from trying it again. The boys were lucky, after the spanking the boys didn't try it again ever. But the damn girl
she succeed in heating up a key white hot and that key burned right through her flannel gown and her dermis. She learned the hard way.
She also drank out the toilet for two years, and still eats lotion like its whipped cream, she likes the flavor of Jergens, Cetaphil, and Eurcerine best. She is 7 now... the girl is a hazard to herself, Lord Jesus help me.OMG
the little one (my friends' kid) drinks out of the toilet. She gets a cup and comes running to the toilet bowl like it's happy hour. dayum...cetaphil? Ewww... ya'll gonna have to do "some hard ones" and leave them in every toilet for like two days for that child to stop. That's what finally did it for my girl. She's smart, she would look for a clean toilet and oh so stubborn.
Yup, she's the "risk taker" of the bunch. Cetaphil takes like cherry for some reason, yeah I tasted it 
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BklynBabe said: he lucky he calmed his ass down! I gave him 2 options, shut his fucking mouth or get a spanking and shut his fucking mouth
 and he chose option a....he even just apologized for not doing his work right the first time. I just put the timer on and gave him 40 minutes to get this work done because his ass will get put to bed at 8!
now I'mma take my blood pressure medicine and try to calm down. y'all remember how nice I was when I keel over dead from a stroke  every day is fraught with heated emotions, that is one thing I really hate about parenting, that emotional attachment, the subjectivity, you can't stand back and see the big picture sometimes, nobody is on their best behaviour. It's a battlefield  | |
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paintedlady said: deadmansbones said: Hi everyone.
Third post, but I wanted to introduce myself. I'm deadmansbones. I left you a "halloween" present in the non-prince music section. As per the topic, I think it's better to use the time-out method. Is is in most cases, but I found that the time out method was useless for my first born son who was an only child and he liked being alone. So he would dance in the corner and would just repeat the offense and happily ask for time out because he liked to be alone. So that wasn't an effective method of discipline for him, my youngest though was the opposite. She lives to be seen and heard so time out is a very effective tool for use as a consequence.
FYI, I read a recent article claiming any type of spanking negatively impacts a child's intelligence in addition to self-esteem issues.  From my perspective, and IMO this is why I spank. I live in an urban environment with my children. Not in the safest neighborhood, although it is considered very "family oriented" with plenty of parks and a nearby beach. It is also the most densely populated by level 3 sex offenders than any other area in my city and shootings/violent acts occur on a regular basis here. I use spankings to teach on a very steep learning curve. Like "do it once only, because if you repeat that you can hurt yourself or someone else". I feel that where I live its a necessity to teach this way in order to safeguard my happy go lucky unaffected kids to be safe in their world. I do it to teach a healthy sense of fear that they would not other wise learn until they would be much older. I wonder if these studies are ever done in inner cities where danger is an ever present force. for me I spanked my kids when... -my son brought his swiss army knife to school ( he brought it to show off to his friends but he is a black kid and would have thrown away his future if he were caught with something so simple) -my son chased his sister with a butcher knife in the house -all three of them tried to stick bobby pins/keys in the sockets (yes, they removed the safety covers- all under age 2) -my son thought it was a good idea to jump in a strangers car and leave for icecream at age 4 -my daughter had an issue with wanting to get on men's laps at age 5 -my son hid from me in a department store for 1/2 an hour, thinking it was funny, he was 3 -my son (12) tried to make his younger (2) brother eat kenepas (a choke hazard) just to see what would happen I have very intelligent kids, I didn't want to rob them of their self esteem, but their safety was a greater concern for me. It may be barbaric, but with so many criminals and different cultures of people that are afraid to look out for other people's children, I had to make sure my kids could look out for themselves. sad but true. I don't regret ever spanking them, they are safe, happy and thriving in a not so forgiving city. IMHO in a less urban setting (fewer people/less crime) where many people speak the same language/culture and look out for one another's kids, spankings just aren't needed. I am sure many may disagree. I guess a parent has to do what he/she feels is right as long as there isn't any abuse involved. I don't have any kids, so I'm just talking more about from what I've read. And I wasn't spanked, so it's not part of my reality. It just difficult for me to to say I'd spank my own child when I wasn't spanked. I just don't have any experience with it being successful. I guess that's where a person's environment comes into play.. | |
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paintedlady said: DesireeNevermind said: Ok last thread I'm startign today.
  But uh...
I just remembered something I saw last night. I'm at the whole foods and this chick in the parking lot is just yelling at her crying child and then WHAP!!! She lays one across the kid's face and said kid turns beet red. Now the child is really crying loud and the mom is all looking around like she's either embarassed or feeling guilty. Being a multi-track minded person I start thinking of MJ and his dad/manager abusing him, I think of that vid someone posted a while back where some mom is dragging her leashed child out of a store and I think of how my parents never laid a hand on me. Then I think of pulp fiction but not sure why. Of course this mom didn't really beat her kid IMO, maybe the slap was a little heavy cuz that kid went from white to native american but...I've seen other parents (usually moms) and ethnic moms at that, who go all bladerunner on their kids. I've only intervened twice in my life. Where does one draw the line between a spank, some scolding or mild discipline and abusing your child? Do you ever see parents losing control and step up and say something? So many kids end up in foster care b/c they come from abusive homes. Why are some parents so quick to hit anyway? OK, you my gurl and all, but you have to pump the brakes at sounding like you like wearing pillow cases on your head and are buddies with David Duke. Race has nothing to do with this equation, many white moms not only beat the shit outta their kids but are the worst when it comes to verbally abusing their kids. Violent people will just be violent, ethnicity has nothing to do with this one. WTF? Really? White moms are the worst? Interesting.  | |
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paintedlady said: DesireeNevermind said: Ok last thread I'm startign today.
But uh...
I just remembered something I saw last night. I'm at the whole foods and this chick in the parking lot is just yelling at her crying child and then WHAP!!! She lays one across the kid's face and said kid turns beet red. Now the child is really crying loud and the mom is all looking around like she's either embarassed or feeling guilty. Being a multi-track minded person I start thinking of MJ and his dad/manager abusing him, I think of that vid someone posted a while back where some mom is dragging her leashed child out of a store and I think of how my parents never laid a hand on me. Then I think of pulp fiction but not sure why. Of course this mom didn't really beat her kid IMO, maybe the slap was a little heavy cuz that kid went from white to native american but...I've seen other parents (usually moms) and ethnic moms at that, who go all bladerunner on their kids. I've only intervened twice in my life. Where does one draw the line between a spank, some scolding or mild discipline and abusing your child? Do you ever see parents losing control and step up and say something? So many kids end up in foster care b/c they come from abusive homes. Why are some parents so quick to hit anyway? OK, you my gurl and all, but you have to pump the brakes at sounding like you like wearing pillow cases on your head and are buddies with David Duke. Race has nothing to do with this equation, many white moms not only beat the shit outta their kids but are the worst when it comes to verbally abusing their kids. Violent people will just be violent, ethnicity has nothing to do with this one. If ethnicity has nothing to do with it then why did U state that white mothers are the WORST when it comes to verbally abusing their kids? It would be impossible for U to know this and state it as fact considering the millions of mothers worldwide. Colour has nothing to do with it period! | |
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PanthaGirl said: paintedlady said: OK, you my gurl and all, but you have to pump the brakes at sounding like you like wearing pillow cases on your head and are buddies with David Duke. Race has nothing to do with this equation, many white moms not only beat the shit outta their kids but are the worst when it comes to verbally abusing their kids. Violent people will just be violent, ethnicity has nothing to do with this one. If ethnicity has nothing to do with it then why did U state that white mothers are the WORST when it comes to verbally abusing their kids? It would be impossible for U to know this and state it as fact considering the millions of mothers worldwide. Colour has nothing to do with it period! I see that this response made you angry... well, I said it playing devil's advocate really. The responses from yourself and Ms. Getawayfromme are typical of those that are only sensitive when it comes to advocating for only one particular group. Didn't see you post a response to defend the ethnic moms I see. Actually truth be told, the worst offenders of verbal abuse are the creative minds that know exactly what to say to make it burn deep in the mind of a child. If you can't defend ALL moms then don't defend any. | |
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paintedlady said: PanthaGirl said: If ethnicity has nothing to do with it then why did U state that white mothers are the WORST when it comes to verbally abusing their kids? It would be impossible for U to know this and state it as fact considering the millions of mothers worldwide. Colour has nothing to do with it period! I see that this response made you angry... well, I said it playing devil's advocate really. The responses from yourself and Ms. Getawayfromme are typical of those that are only sensitive when it comes to advocating for only one particular group. Didn't see you post a response to defend the ethnic moms I see. Actually truth be told, the worst offenders of verbal abuse are the creative minds that know exactly what to say to make it burn deep in the mind of a child. If you can't defend ALL moms then don't defend any. I graduated bitches!!! 12-19-09   | |
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paintedlady said: PanthaGirl said: If ethnicity has nothing to do with it then why did U state that white mothers are the WORST when it comes to verbally abusing their kids? It would be impossible for U to know this and state it as fact considering the millions of mothers worldwide. Colour has nothing to do with it period! I see that this response made you angry... well, I said it playing devil's advocate really. The responses from yourself and Ms. Getawayfromme are typical of those that are only sensitive when it comes to advocating for only one particular group. Didn't see you post a response to defend the ethnic moms I see. Actually truth be told, the worst offenders of verbal abuse are the creative minds that know exactly what to say to make it burn deep in the mind of a child. If you can't defend ALL moms then don't defend any. Actually U mistake anger with curiosity to ur own deceptive statements. I was also quite amused at the fact U turned the entire story around towards me and neglected to answer my initial question. I already stated that colour has nothing to do with it so if u think about it, I'm defending mothers of all shades with that very comment. | |
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PanthaGirl said: paintedlady said: I see that this response made you angry... well, I said it playing devil's advocate really. The responses from yourself and Ms. Getawayfromme are typical of those that are only sensitive when it comes to advocating for only one particular group. Didn't see you post a response to defend the ethnic moms I see. Actually truth be told, the worst offenders of verbal abuse are the creative minds that know exactly what to say to make it burn deep in the mind of a child. If you can't defend ALL moms then don't defend any. Actually U mistake anger with curiosity to ur own deceptive statements. I was also quite amused at the fact U turned the entire story around towards me and neglected to answer my initial question. I already stated that colour has nothing to do with it so if u think about it, I'm defending mothers of all shades with that very comment. I also said color has nothing to do with it. Curiosity really? I think Ms. Getawayfromme was the only one that posed it as a question and was genuinely curious, your use of exclamation points sorta made your post come off defensive in a passionate sorta way like you were offended deeply be my statement. No need to run in circles and make me explain any further, we are both too smart for this. Glad to see I could amuse you though. spell edit duh. [Edited 10/14/09 12:04pm] | |
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paintedlady said: PanthaGirl said: Actually U mistake anger with curiosity to ur own deceptive statements. I was also quite amused at the fact U turned the entire story around towards me and neglected to answer my initial question. I already stated that colour has nothing to do with it so if u think about it, I'm defending mothers of all shades with that very comment. I also said color has nothing to do with it. Curiosity really? I think Ms. Getawayfromme was the only one that posed it as a question and was genuinely curious, your use of exclamation points sorta made your post come off defensive in a passionate sorta way like you were offended deeply be my statement. No need to run in circles and make me explain any further, we are both too smart for this. Glad to see I could amuse you though. spell edit duh. [Edited 10/14/09 12:04pm] That's cool I was not offended by ur post, just needed u to break it down for me and possibly explain urself due to it coming across as deceptive. My use of exclamation points were necessary to state an opinion, I hardly realised that using them would come across as being defensive. Peace. | |
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pax ladies before I turn you both over my knees and spank ya!
*side eye* I know y'all like that shit though | |
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I am more of a disciplinarian than a beat yo ass type of parent. Don't get me wrong, I have had to grab my belt, or depending on what's in my hand, the remote controller or the spatula a few times, but that's when my sons have pissed me the hell off and are not listening. But the majority of the time, I am the type who will restrict video game play or MJ videos/cds ( ) and have a good talking to them and believe, their tears will still fall. I got my ass beat with extension cords and switches (thin tree branch) to the point of having welts and scars, I will NEVER do that to my children, it's pretty much a very conscious decision on my part.I've lost the use of my heart, But I'm still alive, Still looking for the life, The endless pool on the other side, It's a wild wild west, I'm doing my best, I'm a soldier of love, Every day and night, I'm soldier of love, All the days of my life. | |
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blessedk said: I am more of a disciplinarian than a beat yo ass type of parent. Don't get me wrong, I have had to grab my belt, or depending on what's in my hand, the remote controller or the spatula a few times, but that's when my sons have pissed me the hell off and are not listening. But the majority of the time, I am the type who will restrict video game play or MJ videos/cds (
) and have a good talking to them and believe, their tears will still fall. I got my ass beat with extension cords and switches (thin tree branch) to the point of having welts and scars, I will NEVER do that to my children, it's pretty much a very conscious decision on my part.Now that right there is abuse plain and simple. I'm glad you are not carrying on that awful tradition when disciplining your children. I could never put a welt/scar on a child or draw blood or bust a lip. I'm thinking of a time I had to go to emergency for a spranged ankle and saw a little girl with a black eye. Her mom kept screaching at ther to be still. I kept wondering if the black eye was from an earlier time where she was "not sitting still".  | |
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DesireeNevermind said: Ok last thread I'm startign today.
But uh...
I just remembered something I saw last night. I'm at the whole foods and this chick in the parking lot is just yelling at her crying child and then WHAP!!! She lays one across the kid's face and said kid turns beet red. Now the child is really crying loud and the mom is all looking around like she's either embarassed or feeling guilty. Being a multi-track minded person I start thinking of MJ and his dad/manager abusing him, I think of that vid someone posted a while back where some mom is dragging her leashed child out of a store and I think of how my parents never laid a hand on me. Then I think of pulp fiction but not sure why. Of course this mom didn't really beat her kid IMO, maybe the slap was a little heavy cuz that kid went from white to native american but...I've seen other parents (usually moms) and ethnic moms at that, who go all bladerunner on their kids. I've only intervened twice in my life. Where does one draw the line between a spank, some scolding or mild discipline and abusing your child? Do you ever see parents losing control and step up and say something? So many kids end up in foster care b/c they come from abusive homes. Why are some parents so quick to hit anyway? Hitting a kid has only to do with your own incapacity. And hitting a kid does not make your kid listen, only be afraid of you. My kid only listens when I'm calm, clear and kind to him, when I explain things and overall he's a kind, well behaved kid, I'm sure it's about taking the time for him. When he was little he was ill all the time and I was dead tired and therefor not able to bare things too much. I lost my temper when he screamed all night, every night and I know that during the day I did tap his butt (softly but nevertheless I gave him a spank) when he wouldn't listen, you could just see that he didn't understand a bit, so it doesn't help spanking. But that was only because of my own incapacity. If you are patient and take the time to explain why things aren't good, your kid will be a much nicer kid and not a screaming, AD/HD look a like. But some of us don't take the time because we're not feeling well ourselves. It's a little bit difficult to express myself in English, I could be more clear in Dutch. | |
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i was hit a lot...got a swollen lip..so my mom made me stay home from school, swollen arm so I couldn't stretch it out, hit in the back of the head...my neck became kinda stiff..belt marks...abuse...I don't know anymore... unlucky7 reincarnated | |
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peacenlovealways said: i was hit a lot...got a swollen lip..so my mom made me stay home from school, swollen arm so I couldn't stretch it out, hit in the back of the head...my neck became kinda stiff..belt marks...abuse...I don't know anymore...
I've read your other posts... I feel bad for you
Things like this shouldn't happen, parents/kids, relatives/kids, whatever. And really don't want to know in how many homes this secretly happens
I my mom got hit by her mother a lot while being a sweet kid, her dad confirmed. She seemed to have had hormonal problems, trying to vent her shit on my mom whenever she could. As a grown-up she ofcourse had the dominancy over her kid being much much stronger. Although she did love my mom in a way she also hated her, else you don't hurt your kid like that, with mental and physical abuse. My mom always said she didn't understand people who hit their kids because they were hit themselves. She never touched me, loves kids. It's hard. I do hope you have friends who listen to you and who you trust when you're hurt. | |
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CJanssen said: peacenlovealways said: i was hit a lot...got a swollen lip..so my mom made me stay home from school, swollen arm so I couldn't stretch it out, hit in the back of the head...my neck became kinda stiff..belt marks...abuse...I don't know anymore...
I've read your other posts... I feel bad for you
Things like this shouldn't happen, parents/kids, relatives/kids, whatever. And really don't want to know in how many homes this secretly happens
I my mom got hit by her mother a lot while being a sweet kid, her dad confirmed. She seemed to have had hormonal problems, trying to vent her shit on my mom whenever she could. As a grown-up she ofcourse had the dominancy over her kid being much much stronger. Although she did love my mom in a way she also hated her, else you don't hurt your kid like that, with mental and physical abuse. My mom always said she didn't understand people who hit their kids because they were hit themselves. She never touched me, loves kids. It's hard. I do hope you have friends who listen to you and who you trust when you're hurt. Not now,but I hope to find some in the future, thanks unlucky7 reincarnated | |
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paintedlady said: many white moms not only beat the shit outta their kids but are the worst when it comes to verbally abusing their kids.
paintedlady said: ethnicity has nothing to do with this one.
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This thread has been piss-in-your pants funny. Part of the reason that it's so damn funny is because I can totally relate. I was talking to my cousin the other day and she's a great listener since she had three right in a row and the youngest has autism. He's about 22. Her ex was always on the road and she had these kids by herself alot.
She was understanding my plight, that I can't manhandle my kid, I can't say anything like my parent would have (you are a retard, a retard I tell you!! I swear to God I have never seen a friggin kid like you in my life!!!!) So my cousin told me of a vacation trip where she said that the three were walking ahead of her on the beach with their father and they did something. Anyway she was always stuck being the disiplinarian. She finally said. "Can I spit on them? I can't hit them I can't say anything that might hurt their feelings and I can't give them the silent treatment. So - Can I atleast spit on them?" I laughed so hard because I truly understood what it feels like to have your hands tied. Some people can do time out anywhere, or think they can, but everytime you are in the worst place to discipline your kids that's when they'll pull their crap!!! There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: blessedk said: I am more of a disciplinarian than a beat yo ass type of parent. Don't get me wrong, I have had to grab my belt, or depending on what's in my hand, the remote controller or the spatula a few times, but that's when my sons have pissed me the hell off and are not listening. But the majority of the time, I am the type who will restrict video game play or MJ videos/cds (
) and have a good talking to them and believe, their tears will still fall. I got my ass beat with extension cords and switches (thin tree branch) to the point of having welts and scars, I will NEVER do that to my children, it's pretty much a very conscious decision on my part.Now that right there is abuse plain and simple. I'm glad you are not carrying on that awful tradition when disciplining your children. I could never put a welt/scar on a child or draw blood or bust a lip. I'm thinking of a time I had to go to emergency for a spranged ankle and saw a little girl with a black eye. Her mom kept screaching at ther to be still. I kept wondering if the black eye was from an earlier time where she was "not sitting still". Yeah, I found just telling my kids to turn off the video games/tv and go to bed works and I get my point across really well without hitting. It's pretty much common place and alot of people (alot of black people) had the same experience I had. Especially those like myself who grew up in church.  [Edited 10/16/09 11:54am] I've lost the use of my heart, But I'm still alive, Still looking for the life, The endless pool on the other side, It's a wild wild west, I'm doing my best, I'm a soldier of love, Every day and night, I'm soldier of love, All the days of my life. | |
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blessedk said: DesireeNevermind said: Now that right there is abuse plain and simple. I'm glad you are not carrying on that awful tradition when disciplining your children. I could never put a welt/scar on a child or draw blood or bust a lip. I'm thinking of a time I had to go to emergency for a spranged ankle and saw a little girl with a black eye. Her mom kept screaching at ther to be still. I kept wondering if the black eye was from an earlier time where she was "not sitting still". Yeah, I found just telling my kids to turn off the video games/tv and go to bed works and I get my point across really well without hitting. It's pretty much common place and alot of people (alot of black people) had the same experience I had. Especially those like myself who grew up in church.
[Edited 10/16/09 11:54am] My mom isn't black she's Italian and she wasn't above inflicting a bit a pain and/or threatening to. Once they get you a few times you knew that when she made her Charlie Manson eyes it was time to cut your losses. My daughter pulls a nutty when I say the videos must stop because it's bedtime. What do I mean by a nutty? She grabbed the chocolate sauce off the table and squirted it all over the kitchen, me, the ceiling etc. I took a nutty and layed her down in it, no pain involved - just humiliation. Anyway she has some sort of issue that doesn't have a name. she can't transition from oone thing to another very easily etc. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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ultrablue said: paintedlady said: many white moms not only beat the shit outta their kids but are the worst when it comes to verbally abusing their kids.
paintedlady said: ethnicity has nothing to do with this one.
Yah I'm still stumped by that one and an actual explanation still hasn't been provided.... [Edited 10/17/09 2:11am] | |
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PanthaGirl said: ultrablue said: Yah I'm still stumped by that one and an actual explanation still hasn't been provided....
[Edited 10/17/09 2:11am] The explanation was given, read the entire post. Simply put, I said that to force you to take your rose colored blinders off and see it from POV of an ethnic mom. Get it? If ya don't then keep your rose colored shades on and only bitch about the black folks say on this forum. No deception about it it at all. You choose what you want to see, if you only want to see one POV then so be it.  | |
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ultrablue said: paintedlady said: many white moms not only beat the shit outta their kids but are the worst when it comes to verbally abusing their kids.
paintedlady said: ethnicity has nothing to do with this one.
Um, please read reply #127 carefully. TY. | |
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paintedlady said: PanthaGirl said: Yah I'm still stumped by that one and an actual explanation still hasn't been provided....
[Edited 10/17/09 2:11am] The explanation was given, read the entire post. Simply put, I said that to force you to take your rose colored blinders off and see it from POV of an ethnic mom. Get it? If ya don't then keep your rose colored shades on and only bitch about the black folks say on this forum. No deception about it it at all. You choose what you want to see, if you only want to see one POV then so be it. Wow that's brutal. It was a simple question and I still don't see ur answer, if U took the time to clarify then this wouldn't be taking place. Ur not so subtle insults towards me are quite unecessary as I do not have 'rose coloured blinders' on when ur original statement indicated otherwise. Besides, U can also stop going on about my so called lack of understanding ethnics, cause ur forgetting a very important detail, I AM AN ETHNIC myself so my understanding is right up there with the best of them. | |
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PanthaGirl said: paintedlady said: The explanation was given, read the entire post. Simply put, I said that to force you to take your rose colored blinders off and see it from POV of an ethnic mom. Get it? If ya don't then keep your rose colored shades on and only bitch about the black folks say on this forum. No deception about it it at all. You choose what you want to see, if you only want to see one POV then so be it. Wow that's brutal. It was a simple question and I still don't see ur answer, if U took the time to clarify then this wouldn't be taking place. Ur not so subtle insults towards me are quite unecessary as I do not have 'rose coloured blinders' on when ur original statement indicated otherwise. Besides, U can also stop going on about my so called lack of understanding ethnics, cause ur forgetting a very important detail, I AM AN ETHNIC myself so my understanding is right up there with the best of them. this coming from a person that called me a pestilence to humanity.
OK, You need clarification to my "deception" well, its just this. When and offense is committed toward any one group, people only tend to stand up to that particular offense when it only involves the make-up their their own racial/ethnic group. Even though they see something that isn't kosher, they say nothing because "its not their problem" but if you twist it... and say something offensive to the group that commits the offense in the first place then watch the sensitivity scream out and shout "WTF??!!" but that isn't done otherwise. Why is that? So why is it that I have to offend people before they see that they should be more vocal about other offenses as well. Sometimes people only acknowledge wrongs done when it only hurts them. What I posted doesn't matter... its the reaction to that particular statement you should have been paying attention to. Funny, my girl Desiree got it, she knows what I was getting at, you are stuck on me saying something about white mothers when that was obvious that's not what my post was about. That's basically it.  | |
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What the hell goin' on here????  | |
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DesireeNevermind said: What the hell goin' on here????
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