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mackenzie phillips and her dad was getting it on

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The bombshell that Mackenzie Phillips will drop on Oprah today? She slept with her father.

In her tell-all book, out today, the actress says that her dad, musician John Phillips of the '60s band the Mamas and the Papas, engaged with her in a long-term incestuous relationship.

Phillips writes in High on Arrival: On the night before she was to marry Jeff Sessler, a member of the Rolling Stones entourage, in 1979, her dad showed up determined to stop it. "I had tons of pills, and Dad had tons of everything too. Eventually I passed out on Dad's bed. My father was not a man with boundaries. He was full of love, and he was sick with drugs. I woke up that night from a blackout to find myself having sex with my own father."

John died in 2001 after a long battle with drugs and alcohol. Of cocaine, Mackenzie tells Winfrey, "He put the needle in my arm and pushed the plunger in and he missed."

"Missed the vein?" Winfrey asks.

"Missed the vein," Mackenzie replied, "and my whole arm went numb, because it was cocaine."

Some Phillips family members doubt that everything Mackenzie's saying about her late father is true, reports Us Weekly
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Reply #1 posted 09/23/09 11:07am

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Well I guess we all have to rush to judge and condemn then don't we?

To withhold judgment or condemnation would be to condone it. Right?
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Reply #2 posted 09/23/09 11:07am

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drugs are bad.
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authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #3 posted 09/23/09 11:13am

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Reply #4 posted 09/23/09 11:17am

Fury

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Graycap23 said:

http://prince.org/msg/8/319592

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Reply #5 posted 09/23/09 11:52am

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wow....."IF" it is true...then that is one fu%$ed up family!

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Im sure ALOT of family members are gonna hate her
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Reply #6 posted 09/23/09 1:12pm

Ottensen

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Well I guess we all have to rush to judge and condemn then don't we?

To withhold judgment or condemnation would be to condone it. Right?


This shit is really tripping me out. Alot of what I'm getting from the online reaction is that it's her fault.

I think if most knew more about her story they would understand that it that began with her father shooting her up with heroin as kid...

For however anyone else feels here, for me it's unreal that someone trying to come to terms with abuse is having the blame placed squarely on their shoulders. No fucking wonder people never step forward about things that happen to them as children...seems to me it's just better to keep it bottled up and rot yourelf to death instead disbelief
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Reply #7 posted 09/23/09 1:16pm

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DAMN, she may have had the most fucked up childhood of any child star I can think of disbelief
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Reply #8 posted 09/23/09 1:18pm

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CalhounSq said:

DAMN, she may have had the most fucked up childhood of any child star I can think of disbelief


I don't think she was a minor when that happened.
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Reply #9 posted 09/23/09 2:56pm

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well, i just watched the oprah interview & i believe her.
i think her father was pretty twisted.

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Reply #10 posted 09/23/09 3:07pm

Ottensen

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CalhounSq said:

DAMN, she may have had the most fucked up childhood of any child star I can think of disbelief


I don't think she was a minor when that happened.


Okay, she was 16.

I remember being 16.

I'm trying to imagine my dad shooting me up with heroin and then having sex at with me. Sorry, but that shit doesn't fly.

At 16, age of consent or not, my parents were my parents, and it was their duty to establish boundaries for me, guide me, nurture me, and protect me. Somehow the heroin and the incest is throwin' me off a little on falling within those boundaries. Maybe it's just me, but at 16, you're still your parent's child. For me, being of consentual age does not make that scenario any less wretched,...I'm sorry, but I just can't find any other adjective tonight to apply to this other than wretched... shrug
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Reply #11 posted 09/23/09 3:21pm

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ew.
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Reply #12 posted 09/23/09 3:57pm

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Ottensen said:

SUPRMAN said:



I don't think she was a minor when that happened.


Okay, she was 16.

I remember being 16.

I'm trying to imagine my dad shooting me up with heroin and then having sex at with me. Sorry, but that shit doesn't fly.

At 16, age of consent or not, my parents were my parents, and it was their duty to establish boundaries for me, guide me, nurture me, and protect me. Somehow the heroin and the incest is throwin' me off a little on falling within those boundaries. Maybe it's just me, but at 16, you're still your parent's child. For me, being of consentual age does not make that scenario any less wretched,...I'm sorry, but I just can't find any other adjective tonight to apply to this other than wretched... shrug


16 is still a minor. I thought in 1979 she was older than 16.
I was only commenting on the post of her being a child star at the time.
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Reply #13 posted 09/23/09 4:17pm

Ottensen

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Ottensen said:



Okay, she was 16.

I remember being 16.

I'm trying to imagine my dad shooting me up with heroin and then having sex at with me. Sorry, but that shit doesn't fly.

At 16, age of consent or not, my parents were my parents, and it was their duty to establish boundaries for me, guide me, nurture me, and protect me. Somehow the heroin and the incest is throwin' me off a little on falling within those boundaries. Maybe it's just me, but at 16, you're still your parent's child. For me, being of consentual age does not make that scenario any less wretched,...I'm sorry, but I just can't find any other adjective tonight to apply to this other than wretched... shrug


16 is still a minor. I thought in 1979 she was older than 16.
I was only commenting on the post of her being a child star at the time.
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It's just all so creepy, you know? I mean, I've read Nabacov's Lolita, Sade's 120 Days of Sodom to try to get some insight on thse sorts of scenarios, and it just weirds me out trying to pice together how that whole adult-minor thing is supposed to work, and it's even creepier to me when blood relations are involved (holding back urge to hurl) shake

Insofar as her age, it's been reported that she stopped the incest with her dad in 86 (?), they had the sexual relationship for 10 years prior which would mean that it began in 1976 when she was 16 years old. I believe this article snippet is just describing one of the encounters they had. But hell, 16, 19, 23, or 34, I still find it repulsive to have sex with your parents...and shooting up?..good grief, I'm 38 and barely drink alcohol in front of my parents...I can't even imagine us sitting up together nodding out between shags death
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Reply #14 posted 09/23/09 5:34pm

Ottensen

SUPRMAN said:

Ottensen said:



Okay, she was 16.

I remember being 16.

I'm trying to imagine my dad shooting me up with heroin and then having sex at with me. Sorry, but that shit doesn't fly.

At 16, age of consent or not, my parents were my parents, and it was their duty to establish boundaries for me, guide me, nurture me, and protect me. Somehow the heroin and the incest is throwin' me off a little on falling within those boundaries. Maybe it's just me, but at 16, you're still your parent's child. For me, being of consentual age does not make that scenario any less wretched,...I'm sorry, but I just can't find any other adjective tonight to apply to this other than wretched... shrug


16 is still a minor. I thought in 1979 she was older than 16.
I was only commenting on the post of her being a child star at the time.
[Edited 9/23/09 15:58pm]


I just double checked, and I'm wrong about the age. She was 18, so I stand corrected on that front.

Still, I find it repulsive.
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Reply #15 posted 09/23/09 5:38pm

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Well I guess we all have to rush to judge and condemn then don't we?

To withhold judgment or condemnation would be to condone it. Right?


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Reply #16 posted 09/23/09 5:56pm

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it happens....and sadly, a little more regularly than we would like to believe.

either way, this woman needs help and has needed it for a long time and someone needs to lock her up in with Dr Drew, Dr Phil, and Dr Pepper and get her ass straightened out.
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