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Reply #90 posted 09/15/09 1:53pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Graycap23 said:


lol.....U guys are funny.
6 titles.....no losses.

Mike never won a title without Scottie Pippen. Hell, he never got past the first round without Pippen. When Mike left, Pippen and the Bulls won 54 games, and damn near got the the Conference Finals.


And Scottie NEVER won an NBA championship without Michael. wink

It goes to show you that a one-two punch is very necessary in pro basketball.

And although Kobe FINALLY won one NBA without Shaq, he STILL needed Pau Gasol to be "the Scottie" to his "Michael".
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Reply #91 posted 09/15/09 2:51pm

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TonyVanDam said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:


Mike never won a title without Scottie Pippen. Hell, he never got past the first round without Pippen. When Mike left, Pippen and the Bulls won 54 games, and damn near got the the Conference Finals.


And Scottie NEVER won an NBA championship without Michael. wink

It goes to show you that a one-two punch is very necessary in pro basketball.

And although Kobe FINALLY won one NBA without Shaq, he STILL needed Pau Gasol to be "the Scottie" to his "Michael".


The NBA is star-driven. You need at LEAST two to be a contender. That's the big reason Ewing never won. He never played with a Pippen or a Gasol.
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Reply #92 posted 09/15/09 2:52pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

TonyVanDam said:



And Scottie NEVER won an NBA championship without Michael. wink

It goes to show you that a one-two punch is very necessary in pro basketball.

And although Kobe FINALLY won one NBA without Shaq, he STILL needed Pau Gasol to be "the Scottie" to his "Michael".


The NBA is star-driven. You need at LEAST two to be a contender. That's the big reason Ewing never won. He never played with a Pippen or a Gasol.


It is a team sport after all!
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Reply #93 posted 09/15/09 5:03pm

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I don't think it was quite as bad as that article suggested.


I know. The article made it sound like Jordan was dogging people out, which he wasn't. That was probably the coolest HOF I have ever seen. Mad props to Jordan on the HOF nod.

That's why Mr jordan is still so conceited cause people are riding his jockstrap thinking he can't say anything wrong...
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Reply #94 posted 09/15/09 6:28pm

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TonyVanDam said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:


Mike never won a title without Scottie Pippen. Hell, he never got past the first round without Pippen. When Mike left, Pippen and the Bulls won 54 games, and damn near got the the Conference Finals.


And Scottie NEVER won an NBA championship without Michael. wink

It goes to show you that a one-two punch is very necessary in pro basketball.

And although Kobe FINALLY won one NBA without Shaq, he STILL needed Pau Gasol to be "the Scottie" to his "Michael".

Pippen took the Bulls to the second round the season MJ went to play baseball.
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Reply #95 posted 09/15/09 6:35pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

TonyVanDam said:



And Scottie NEVER won an NBA championship without Michael. wink

It goes to show you that a one-two punch is very necessary in pro basketball.

And although Kobe FINALLY won one NBA without Shaq, he STILL needed Pau Gasol to be "the Scottie" to his "Michael".

Pippen took the Bulls to the second round the season MJ went to play baseball.

Pip was 3 minutes from the Finals when he was with the Blazers in 2001.
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Reply #96 posted 09/15/09 7:14pm

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Graycap23 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:


Pippen took the Bulls to the second round the season MJ went to play baseball.

Pip was 3 minutes from the Finals when he was with the Blazers in 2001.



He also would have taken the Bulls to at least Conference Finals or maybe even the NBA Finals if it weren't for one of the worst calls in Playoff history in '94.

15 years later, I'm still mad about that shit!!!

If I EVER see Hue Hollins on the street, it's gonna be a misunderstanding!!!

He also was MVP of the All-Star Game that year, too.

Yes, Pip was a great player and the perfect complement along side MJ.

He's definitely going into the Hall of Fame if not next year then the year after.
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Reply #97 posted 09/15/09 7:18pm

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Paris9748430 said:

Graycap23 said:


Pip was 3 minutes from the Finals when he was with the Blazers in 2001.



He also would have taken the Bulls to at least Conference Finals or maybe even the NBA Finals if it weren't for one of the worst calls in Playoff history in '94.

15 years later, I'm still mad about that shit!!!

If I EVER see Hue Hollins on the street, it's gonna be a misunderstanding!!!

He also was MVP of the All-Star Game that year, too.

Yes, Pip was a great player and the perfect complement along side MJ.

He's definitely going into the Hall of Fame if not next year then the year after.

He's goin; in next season, first ballot.
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Reply #98 posted 09/15/09 7:48pm

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He's goin; in next season, first ballot.



Yep, he and I think Karl Malone go in next year.
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Reply #99 posted 09/16/09 12:11am

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uPtoWnNY said:

TonyVanDam said:



And Scottie NEVER won an NBA championship without Michael. wink

It goes to show you that a one-two punch is very necessary in pro basketball.

And although Kobe FINALLY won one NBA without Shaq, he STILL needed Pau Gasol to be "the Scottie" to his "Michael".


The NBA is star-driven. You need at LEAST two to be a contender. That's the big reason Ewing never won. He never played with a Pippen or a Gasol.


.....THAT^ and the fact that John Stark got OWNED by Hakeem's game-winning block in Game 6 of the 1994 NBA Finals! lol
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Reply #100 posted 09/16/09 2:33am

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uPtoWnNY said:

TonyVanDam said:



And Scottie NEVER won an NBA championship without Michael. wink

It goes to show you that a one-two punch is very necessary in pro basketball.

And although Kobe FINALLY won one NBA without Shaq, he STILL needed Pau Gasol to be "the Scottie" to his "Michael".


The NBA is star-driven. You need at LEAST two to be a contender. That's the big reason Ewing never won. He never played with a Pippen or a Gasol.


What about Detroit '04? They didn't have any superstars yet won the title.
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Reply #101 posted 09/16/09 6:22am

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Paris9748430 said:

Graycap23 said:


Pip was 3 minutes from the Finals when he was with the Blazers in 2001.



He also would have taken the Bulls to at least Conference Finals or maybe even the NBA Finals if it weren't for one of the worst calls in Playoff history in '94.

15 years later, I'm still mad about that shit!!!

If I EVER see Hue Hollins on the street, it's gonna be a misunderstanding!!!

He also was MVP of the All-Star Game that year, too.

Yes, Pip was a great player and the perfect complement along side MJ.

He's definitely going into the Hall of Fame if not next year then the year after.

If Pip does not go 1st ballot.....they should disband the HOF.
I think Dennis Rodman should also get in.
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Reply #102 posted 09/16/09 6:46am

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uPtoWnNY said:



The NBA is star-driven. You need at LEAST two to be a contender. That's the big reason Ewing never won. He never played with a Pippen or a Gasol.


What about Detroit '04? They didn't have any superstars yet won the title.


They may not have been superstars, but c'mon - Rip, Chauncey, Rasheed, Tay - those are serious players. That was a finely-tuned unit who played hellafied defense(like the Bad Boy Pistons and the 70s Knicks). Everyone had a role and did it well. Shit, they would have won back-to-back titles if Rasheed didn't suffer brainlock and leave Big Shot Bob wide open.
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Reply #103 posted 09/16/09 6:47am

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If Pip does not go 1st ballot.....they should disband the HOF. I think Dennis Rodman should also get in.


It's already a crime Dennis Johnson isn't in the HOF.
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Reply #104 posted 09/16/09 6:56am

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uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:

If Pip does not go 1st ballot.....they should disband the HOF. I think Dennis Rodman should also get in.


It's already a crime Dennis Johnson isn't in the HOF.

I agree. Why isn't he in?
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Reply #105 posted 09/16/09 8:01am

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Graycap23 said:

Paris9748430 said:




He also would have taken the Bulls to at least Conference Finals or maybe even the NBA Finals if it weren't for one of the worst calls in Playoff history in '94.

15 years later, I'm still mad about that shit!!!

If I EVER see Hue Hollins on the street, it's gonna be a misunderstanding!!!

He also was MVP of the All-Star Game that year, too.

Yes, Pip was a great player and the perfect complement along side MJ.

He's definitely going into the Hall of Fame if not next year then the year after.

If Pip does not go 1st ballot.....they should disband the HOF.
I think Dennis Rodman should also get in.


Pippen for sure. Dennis Rodman no way. He was
an excellent rebounder but other than that he just
displayed an exhibition of thug basketball. Ask Pippen. lol
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Reply #106 posted 09/16/09 9:05am

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Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:



It's already a crime Dennis Johnson isn't in the HOF.

I agree. Why isn't he in?


Your guess is as good as mine. DJ's numbers are comparable to Payton's, and everyone says the Glove is a definite HOFamer. Please. Johnson was the original Glove, plus the man played in six NBA Finals, winning three, and he was a Finals MVP. Magic will tell how tough DJ was.
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Reply #107 posted 09/16/09 10:02am

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phunkdaddy said:

Graycap23 said:


If Pip does not go 1st ballot.....they should disband the HOF.
I think Dennis Rodman should also get in.


Pippen for sure. Dennis Rodman no way. He was
an excellent rebounder but other than that he just
displayed an exhibition of thug basketball. Ask Pippen. lol


Dennis was a 7-times NBA Rebounding Champion. If I'm not mistaken, only Bill & Wilt have won more than Dennis.
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Reply #108 posted 09/16/09 10:34am

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TonyVanDam said:

phunkdaddy said:



Pippen for sure. Dennis Rodman no way. He was
an excellent rebounder but other than that he just
displayed an exhibition of thug basketball. Ask Pippen. lol


Dennis was a 7-times NBA Rebounding Champion. If I'm not mistaken, only Bill & Wilt have won more than Dennis.


Barkley won his share of rebounding titles to but he was a scorer
and often carried undermanned teams on his back in the playoffs.
Rodman was a complimentary player not an elite player. Therefore he
shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. You think Vinnie Johnson or Bill
Laimbeer should be in the Hall of Fame.
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Reply #109 posted 09/16/09 11:53am

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phunkdaddy said:

TonyVanDam said:



Dennis was a 7-times NBA Rebounding Champion. If I'm not mistaken, only Bill & Wilt have won more than Dennis.


Barkley won his share of rebounding titles to but he was a scorer
and often carried undermanned teams on his back in the playoffs.
Rodman was a complimentary player not an elite player. Therefore he
shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. You think Vinnie Johnson or Bill
Laimbeer should be in the Hall of Fame.


Bill Laimbeer is questionable. Vinnie Johnson? No.
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Reply #110 posted 09/16/09 11:55am

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TonyVanDam said:

phunkdaddy said:



Barkley won his share of rebounding titles to but he was a scorer
and often carried undermanned teams on his back in the playoffs.
Rodman was a complimentary player not an elite player. Therefore he
shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. You think Vinnie Johnson or Bill
Laimbeer should be in the Hall of Fame.


Bill Laimbeer is questionable. Vinnie Johnson? No.



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Reply #111 posted 09/16/09 12:11pm

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TonyVanDam said:

phunkdaddy said:



Pippen for sure. Dennis Rodman no way. He was
an excellent rebounder but other than that he just
displayed an exhibition of thug basketball. Ask Pippen. lol


Dennis was a 7-times NBA Rebounding Champion. If I'm not mistaken, only Bill & Wilt have won more than Dennis.


Dennis deserves to be inducted. Good defense is sorely underappreciated in the NBA.
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Reply #112 posted 09/16/09 12:22pm

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jone70 said:

TonyVanDam said:



Dennis was a 7-times NBA Rebounding Champion. If I'm not mistaken, only Bill & Wilt have won more than Dennis.


Dennis deserves to be inducted. Good defense is sorely underappreciated in the NBA.


Especially when you play thug ball. Rodman grabbed,held,and pushed more
than any other player i've ever seen. He happened to get away with it more
when he put on a bulls uniform.
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Reply #113 posted 09/16/09 12:26pm

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phunkdaddy said:

jone70 said:



Dennis deserves to be inducted. Good defense is sorely underappreciated in the NBA.


Especially when you play thug ball. Rodman grabbed,held,and pushed more
than any other player i've ever seen. He happened to get away with it more
when he put on a bulls uniform.


I'd rather see tough defense and actual offensive plays being run than everyone trying to be a one-man team. shrug
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Reply #114 posted 09/16/09 1:36pm

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jone70 said:

phunkdaddy said:



Especially when you play thug ball. Rodman grabbed,held,and pushed more
than any other player i've ever seen. He happened to get away with it more
when he put on a bulls uniform.


I'd rather see tough defense and actual offensive plays being run than everyone trying to be a one-man team. shrug


Read my post again.
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Reply #115 posted 09/16/09 1:48pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

Moonbeam said:



What about Detroit '04? They didn't have any superstars yet won the title.


They may not have been superstars, but c'mon - Rip, Chauncey, Rasheed, Tay - those are serious players. That was a finely-tuned unit who played hellafied defense(like the Bad Boy Pistons and the 70s Knicks). Everyone had a role and did it well. Shit, they would have won back-to-back titles if Rasheed didn't suffer brainlock and leave Big Shot Bob wide open.


Oh yes- they were a great team. But they are Exhibit A in the counterexample in the "you need 2 superstars to win a title" theory.
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Reply #116 posted 09/16/09 2:21pm

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phunkdaddy said:

TonyVanDam said:



Bill Laimbeer is questionable. Vinnie Johnson? No.



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I say that because Bill did have his jersey number retired just like Isiah & Joe.
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Reply #117 posted 09/16/09 2:24pm

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phunkdaddy said:

jone70 said:



Dennis deserves to be inducted. Good defense is sorely underappreciated in the NBA.


Especially when you play thug ball. Rodman grabbed,held,and pushed more
than any other player i've ever seen. He happened to get away with it more
when he put on a bulls uniform.


Hand checks were still legal in the NBA at the time.

If Kobe were playing within THAT era, he couldn't score 81 points THAT easily. Dennis, Michael, and/or Scottie would've held Kobe under 40 points.

Please quote me.
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Reply #118 posted 09/16/09 5:27pm

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Come y'all is trippin' Rodman is a Hal of Famer. 5 NBA Titles, 2 DPOYs, 7 rebounding titles, 2 All-Star games, 3 All-NBA teams, 10 All-D Teams, one of the greatest defender/rebounders ever.
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Reply #119 posted 09/16/09 5:34pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Come y'all is trippin' Rodman is a Hal of Famer. 5 NBA Titles, 2 DPOYs, 7 rebounding titles, 2 All-Star games, 3 All-NBA teams, 10 All-D Teams, one of the greatest defender/rebounders ever.


Dikembe better get in, too.
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