Lotus2unfld said:

You don't know what the hell you're talking about. The mercury issue is old news, and vaccines have only become safer in the past 10 years. The manufacturers actually responded to the general unfounded freaking-out over their preservatives and changed them in almost all vaccines. Mercury is a natural part of our surroundings, and while large quantities are clearly unsafe, there is no reason to think that the minute amounts that kids miiiight still be exposed to are harmful. When it comes to all chemicals, dose is everything. The wrong dose of almost ANYthing will kill you, and the right dose of almost ANYthing is either beneficial or harmless.

You're making it sound as though an extremely devoted parent (PunkMistress) doesn't give a fuck about her kids, and it's generous of her to not tell you exactly where to put your fool head.

Lotus2unfld said:

You don't know what the hell you're talking about. The mercury issue is old news, and vaccines have only become safer in the past 10 years. The manufacturers actually responded to the general unfounded freaking-out over their preservatives and changed them in almost all vaccines. Mercury is a natural part of our surroundings, and while large quantities are clearly unsafe, there is no reason to think that the minute amounts that kids miiiight still be exposed to are harmful. When it comes to all chemicals, dose is everything. The wrong dose of almost ANYthing will kill you, and the right dose of almost ANYthing is either beneficial or harmless.

You're making it sound as though an extremely devoted parent (PunkMistress) doesn't give a fuck about her kids, and it's generous of her to not tell you exactly where to put your fool head.

Lotus2unfld said:

Yes. Always have, Gary.

The problem is that flu and many other vaccines are not safe nor are they effective. Vaccines are filled with all kinds of toxic ingredients. This can include dog kidney tissue, monkey kidney tissue, chicken or duck egg protein, chick embryo, calf serum, pig or horse blood, and cowpox pus. These foreign proteins are injected directly. They are very toxic since they do not get filtered through the digestive process or pass through the liver. These proteins are foreign to the body. Parents would never think of giving their children formaldehyde or aluminum phosphate to eat. Yet they’re happily allowing them to be injected into their veins.

Significant adverse effects have been reported with every type of vaccine. These reactions can occur soon after vaccination (short-term reactions) or several months to years later (long-term). These individuals are predominantly infants and children, and the problems they've incurred as a result of vaccination include conditions such as autism, attention deficit disorder, minimal brain dysfunction, and other biochemical and neurological abnormalities.

Because of massive underreporting of these troubling statistics, a full picture of the effects of vaccination has not emerged. The official line is that a small minority must accept negative consequences for the greater good of the majority. Now this swine flu vaccine is being rushed to the market with less testing than any other hardly tested vaccine before it. No lesson was learned with the experimental squalene Anthrax vaccine mandated for US soldiers during the First Gulf War. Hundreds of thousands of adverse reactions occurred, with tragic consequences to the soldiers and enormous preventable financial burdens on the healthcare system.

One would think that before injecting children worldwide with hundreds of millions of doses of vaccines, enough clinical trials would be performed to determine exactly what the effects of this large-scale human genetic experiment would be. Lack of funding is not the problem. Each year, more than $1 billion is appropriated by Congress to federal health agencies to develop, purchase, and promote the mass use of vaccines in the U.S. but not to fund independent researchers to investigate vaccine-related health problems.

Militant, don't get your kids vaccinated when you have some. In one breath, you say to not attack the conspiracy theorists and in the next breath, you show your mind is made up on this topic and are not willing to listen.

Is your educated friend a doctor? An expert in the field? Even if either is the case, they sound like they don't have a clue.

This is coming from someone who has believed that my son's autism was caused by vaccines. I am open enough to entertain that it may not have been.

Vendetta1 said:

I didn't say my mind was made up on this topic. I'm trying to be open and understand the evidence from all angles. The friend who wrote what I quoted, is someone whose opinion I highly trust, put it that way.

What about what they said doesn't sound like they have a luce, in your opinion?

How many cases are there of kids who have been vaccinated, catching the diseases they were vaccinated for? That there would make the first few line bullshit.

Vendetta1 said:

I can't claim to know that statistic, but I never mentioned that, and neither did what I just quoted. It says the vaccines are not safe based upon the toxic ingredients that they contain that are directly injected and therefore can not be filtered through the liver.

It doesn't say anything about kids catching the disease that the vaccines are trying to prevent.

The quote claims the vaccines are not effective. And if the vaccines were toxic and dangerous, don't you think the death rate would be higher?

Vendetta1 said:

Toxicity, danger, risk of illness does not necessarily = death.

That should be obvious. The recurring theme of this thread has been the link between vaccines and autism, not the percentage of people killed by vaccinations.

connorhawke said:

I recently discovered (rather late in life) that I LIKE guinness!!!

ZombieKitten said:

A lady after my own heart
Much better than lager

My ex's son has Autism and was not vaccinated at all. I'm talking nothing - not one vaccine...so I'm not too sure about the vaccine autism link.

He also has had other health issues for most of his life.

GetAwayFromMe said:

you're talking crazy

JerseyKRS said:

You married it.

GetAwayFromMe said:

He sure did!

Probably because I'm not a frigid bitch who tries to ban him from looking at porn just 'cause I'm ugly and insecure!

GetAwayFromMe said:

He sure did!

Probably because I'm not a frigid bitch who tries to ban him from looking at porn just 'cause I'm ugly and insecure!

Vendetta1 said:

I can't claim to know that statistic, but I never mentioned that, and neither did what I just quoted. It says the vaccines are not safe based upon the toxic ingredients that they contain that are directly injected and therefore can not be filtered through the liver.

It doesn't say anything about kids catching the disease that the vaccines are trying to prevent.

meow85 said:

OH, I'm talking about the personal insults thrown at others. Crazy calling crazy crazy.

I stopped reading after about #5, because it was just such obvious, complete, unmitigated bullshit. The efficacy of vaccines against deadly and debilitating diseases is well established. The link with negative outcomes has been fabricated by people on the internet, basically.

Don't be an idiot! Vaccinate your damn kids!