RudyIsBackForGood said:

Couldn't have said it better myself.

My ex's son has Autism and was not vaccinated at all. I'm talking nothing - not one vaccine...so I'm not too sure about the vaccine autism link.

He also has had other health issues for most of his life.

TyphoonTip said:

Wha ? whats so great about Vitamin Water ?even for 20 cent...shitt d be overpriced cuz it s jus water

I boycott Amercian Apparel for the reasons you mansioned above and i also boycott nike and Snapples (Racists)and Walmart(bloodsuckers=) and of course everything by Monsanto.
I used to boycott Mc Ds butt these days i drink theyre coffee sometimes .

alsoo starbucks cuz theyre shitt is nasty . sure mc d s is also nastay butt at elast cheap !

Savages son is a racist pig and can kiss my hairy ass !

i also boycott anything by anoyne who pollutes the envirenment.

Vitamin water is nuttin butt water with tons of sugsr.

by the way , i dig your political stance

tackam said:

I know, huh? HELLO?????

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Because disease is goddamned terrifying.

PurpleJedi said:

All 4 of my kids are vaccinated and thank god they are fine. My niece is a doctor, and would hit me with something way harder then a brick, if I even considered not vaccinating them.

All I know is that my family was vaccinated and we don't have any serious diseases. We're all basically healthy. Same goes for most people I know.

I'd vaccinate my kids without hesitation. The dangers of diseases like measles, whooping cough etc are very clear. The dangers of vaccines are unsubstantiated to say the least.

For anyone with an interest in this, it is worth reading Dr Ben Goldacre's demolition of the anti-vaccine hysteria that was whipped up in the British press. Start here http://www.badscience.net...s/#more-23

Plenty more here: http://www.badscience.net/category/mmr/

Baxter Vaccine Patent Application US 2009/0060950 A1 says:

'... In particular preferred embodiments the composition or vaccine comprises more than one antigen ... such as influenza A and influenza B in particular selected from of one or more of the human H1N1, H2N2, H3N2, H5N1, H7N7, H1N2, H9N2, H7N2, H7N3, H10N7 subtypes, of the pig flu H1N1, H1N2, H3N1 and H3N2 subtypes, of the dog or horse flu H7N7, H3N8 subtypes or of the avian H5N1, H7N2, H1N7, H7N3, H13N6, H5N9, H11N6, H3N8, H9N2, H5N2, H4N8, H10N7, H2N2, H8N4, H14N5, H6N5, H12N5 subtypes.'

The patent was published in March 2009, a month before the virus was released in Mexico in April, but it was filed seven months before this 'new strain' was officially known about. It is the most blatant set-up you could ever see.

The patent includes the following ingredients and toxicity warning:

'Suitable adjuvants can be selected from mineral gels, aluminium hydroxide, surface active substances, lysolecithin, pluronic polyols, polyanions or oil emulsions such as water in oil or oil in water, or a combination thereof. Of course, the selection of the adjuvant depends on the intended use. E.g. toxicity may depend on the destined subject organism and can vary from no toxicity to high toxicity.'

Nice.

PurpleJedi said:

there is several medical reports documenting the direct link between infant exposure to mercury and the development of autism. The drug companies that manufacture these vaccines are very well aware of this fact.

I suspect the pediatricians are also very well aware of which batches of vaccines contain mercury and which ones do not. I had a little confrontation with my sons pediatrician during his last visit requiring a vaccine. My son and I left ...refusing the vaccine. I never once raised my voice or disrespected the doctor in any way ..but I did ask him some very specific and pointed questions regarding this particular vaccine series ... the doctor actually tried to intimidate me into allowing the shot. When he saw that I would not intimidate ... his leg literally was jumping up and down from nerves and I knew. I knew right then... that he (the doctor ) knew that batch was tainted. Probably getting a kick back for data provided to drug companies or whatever on stats. None-the-less ... we left and my son will not be returning to that doctor ever again. Even though that doctor was my son's doctor since my son was born.

Thank God my son is in perfect health. He's very intelligent and just beautiful. But I have had to fight tooth and nail ...for it too. And have had to stay watchful. Sooooo many details for parents to have to keep up with these days ... it's insane....and should not have to be. But that's the way it is. What can you do?

Lotus2unfld said:

You sound like a fucking crackpot.

PunkMistress said:

ThreadBare said:

Weellll I got it out of the Nurse at that doctors office. I got the truth. I asked questions .. I got a bunch of bunk at first but I had been listening closely and finally got the truth.

The nurse confirmed to me that it is WELL documented in medical journals distributed to doctors that the rise in autism is due to mercury tainted vaccines. The number of boys coming down with this disorder is extremely high ..the girls were also extremely high but a little lower case incidents than the boys. Perhaps because of they estgrogen ? I'm guessing ... but

I am NOT guessing and I am NOT being an alarmist when I state that the nurse told me the truth. I then confronted the doctor with these facts ...

the doctor who is usually very cool and mellow ... became extremely nervious.
just by my asking questions. No threats ..no yelling ... nothing like that. Just an intelligent conversation ..with intelligent questions that deserved an honest answer. and the doctor freaked.

needless to say ... I left with my baby boy ...with no vaccine ...that particular set was not really needed anyway. But I'm so glad I did.

Now my son is old enough for another series of vaccines. I'm concerned. He won't be able to begin school without his up to date vaccination records... so I have to do something ..yet ..I will have to research very throuroughly to make sure the does he gets does not come from the batch that's tainted...and just kiss the rest to heaven I guess.

they really make it hard on parents ... it's like they take away our freedom to choose.

while trying to use our children for guinea pigs.

tinaz said:

but as you said ..."they are all adults" now. The vaccine worry issue was not an issue back in the day. This is something that is new...that has been going on over the last decade.

PunkMistress said:

TonyWilliams said:

Sorry, what was your issue with this? Are you suggesting that Baxter invented swine flu?

You do understand that H1N1 is not new, and the flu jumping from one species to another is not some never-before-heard-of, shocking thing?

You do also understand that they're saying at the end there that what is toxic to one species may not be toxic to another, right? They're not saying that they might give highly toxic vaccines to humans.

So. . .

as a kid Frank Zappa played with mercury that his dad brought home. He said in his memoirs, that it would get all mixed up with dustbunnies in balls under his bed.

Lotus2unfld said:

"I then confronted the doctor with these facts ... the doctor who is usually very cool and mellow ... became extremely nervious.
just by my asking questions. No threats ..no yelling ... nothing like that. Just an intelligent conversation ..with intelligent questions that deserved an honest answer. and the doctor freaked. "

Translation: The doctor, who is probably a perfectly normal person, started getting nervous when I began badgering him with FACTS about how he wants to use my SON as a GUINEA PIG. I behaved like a nutjob, and he wanted me to get the hell out of his office but didn't know how to do it without provoking my crazy ass.

"No threats, no yelling" is the part that makes you sound crazy. I mean, if you define "intelligent conversation" by the absence of threats and screaming, it makes you sound like you're a step away from those things at any given moment. Why would you scream at or threaten your child's doctor?

Lotus, you are well within your rights not to get your kid vaccinated. I'm not understanding your panic over this.

PunkMistress said:

Needless to say, I'm incredibly alarmed at some of the people out there who are raising children.

TonyWilliams said:

I think you've got all those virus strains in that thing your smoking.

PunkMistress said:

how many kids under the age of 5 do you presently have?


I'm not talking about kids that were vaccinated 20 or 30 years ago with no problem ...that are now adults

when it comes to my kid...my MY CHILDS good health. You don't have any business calling me names for a damn thing.

I have every right to ask my childs doctor questions ... to research a topic and whatever I need to do to keep my child healthy.

and if the doctor try's to intimidate ...and or gets nervious ... I mean this doctor REALLy reacted in a funny / odd way... to my questions and he didn't want to answer them.... at first....but I have a every right to notice and to choose.

so kiss off.

I'll bet you don't have any kids under the age of 5... at present.

Lotus2unfld said:

You would win that bet; I don't.

My youngest kids still need some vaccines, though, and on my trusted pediatric nurse practitioner's advice, they will be getting them.

PunkMistress said:

Your very abrasive ... ignorant on this topic and clearly don't carry any responsibility for a young child.


No wonder you just dont have a clue. Many parents of young children these days are aware and concerned about the mercury issue.

go argue with the wall. you might actually win that one.

Lotus2unfld said:

Mercury poisoning is no joke. I take it seriously. You just sound batshit Gary Busey crazy, is all.

PunkMistress said:

PunkMistress said:

I did not say that my child never had any vaccines. what I was saying is that the nurse told me that the last set .. that was not needed ..was the set that was known (documented in journals ) to be the set that contains the mercury if that batch is tainted with mercury.

however you talk to me like that and YOUR older kids have not been fully vaccinated ? (older in, as over the age of 5)


oh really? and what was it you called me?


do you care for your kids full time....do they live with you full time ... ?

doesn't seem like you do. something in your tone.

I care for my child full time ...and I look after all these details with diligence ...as any responsible ...loving parent does.





the human hand of judgement tends to point in the direction of it's convienance as opposed to where it usually truely belongs ./.. - by me.
[Edited 9/8/09 19:41pm]

Lotus2unfld said:

Huh?

PunkMistress said: