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Darwintheorgangrinder said: whistle said: i pronounce the letter Z as 'zed'. am i evil?
I think that many places pronounce "z" as "zed". I think it is that way in Canada as well. I say "zed" too Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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luv4u said: Darwintheorgangrinder said: I think that many places pronounce "z" as "zed". I think it is that way in Canada as well. I say "zed" too Me too -- no matter what Moonbeam says! --»You're my favourite moment, you're my Saturday... | |
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Diva said: luv4u said: I say "zed" too Me too -- no matter what Moonbeam says! Lazy talker. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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This may be the very first time one of your hatreds/rants/apoplecticisms (not a word, i'm pretty sure, but i think it fits) hasn't left me scratching my head & thinking 'what on earth is he getting so worked up over?' | |
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damosuzuki said: This may be the very first time one of your hatreds/rants/apoplecticisms (not a word, i'm pretty sure, but i think it fits) hasn't left me scratching my head & thinking 'what on earth is he getting so worked up over?'
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luv4u said: Darwintheorgangrinder said: I think that many places pronounce "z" as "zed". I think it is that way in Canada as well. I say "zed" too I learned that on Shaun of the Dead. I didn't know what they were talking about. MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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Diva said: luv4u said: I say "zed" too Me too -- no matter what Moonbeam says! I always say zed, except my initials which are pronounced zee-kay | |
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ZombieKitten said: Diva said: Me too -- no matter what Moonbeam says! I always say zed, except my initials which are pronounced zee-kay I sorta flip-flop too, depending. | |
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ZombieKitten said: Diva said: Me too -- no matter what Moonbeam says! I always say zed, except my initials which are pronounced zee-kay zed all the way "...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb | |
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For all Americans, Canadians, South Africans or others who are interested in hearing such a grotesque pronunciation of the letter H, listen with horror:
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Courtesy of Dave McKie:
The other day I rang a public library and asked if they had any files on a man called William Black. "Would that be William Haitch Black?" the librarian asked after due investigation. It might, and it might not, I was tempted to say; certainly he himself would have preferred William Aitch. But that would have been insufferably pedantic; so I meekly agreed. Later, on a train down from Scotland, the restaurant car, we kept being told, was located in "Carriage Haitch". And my granddaughter tells me that when she used "aitch" at school, one of her teachers insisted that the right way to say it was "haitch". All the dictionaries in my house agree that aitch is correct. One authority, bearing the mighty imprimaturs of both Oxford University and the BBC, concedes that haitch is standard practice in Ireland but rules it out on this side of the water. Yet it seems to me, after listening closely over the past month or two, that haitch is on the march and aitch is on the retreat. Just as the pushy aggressive grey squirrel has almost extirpated the timorous red one, so muscular abrasive haitch may have done for poor gentle aitch before long. Does that matter? Pronunciation, like all departments of language, evolves, and nowhere more so than when you deal with the letter H. In his excellent book The Adventure of English, Melvyn Bragg says there was once a primer called Poor Little H - Its Use and Abuse, which ran to 40 editions. There was a time when sounding the H at the start of some word like Hackney or Hammermith was taken to be the hallmark of education, while dropping it was the 'allmark of the unschooled. Yet even among those who prided themselves on knowing how to talk proper, the correct use of H was debatable. It's customary still to drop the H at the start of words such as honour and hour, and to prefix them with an "an"; a precious few still do the same with hotel. But standard versions of the Bible preface a whole range of words, from habitation, half and hand to husband, hymn and hypocrite, with "an" rather than "a", suggesting that the dropping of H once habitually happened too. For centuries most people spoke as they pleased. The 18th century, lusting for standardisation, put a stop to all that. Among the first to lay down rules of what should and should not be done were two Scots, James Buchanan and William Johnston, and the playwright Sheridan, who was Irish. It was standard then to leave the L silent in words such as falter and vault, while failing to sound the R in a word such as lord or the H in a word such as while was reprehensible. One authority contended that only the Irish would rhyme great with state rather than seat, while another ordained with equal vehemence that only the Irish would rhyme it with seat. So would the supplanting of "aitch" by "haitch" really matter? In general, I'm against those who seek to steamroller diversity out of the language, but oddly enough I think it might. The way a word begins helps define the image of what it portrays. That's why so many words of abuse begin with a B, and why a word such as spit sounds so repelling - as in Auden's threat to those who might be tempted to trespass into his private domain: "I have no gun, but I can spit." Aitch suggests something amenable, affable, amicable, where haitch is harder, harsher, more hostile. Aitch P Sauce, I think, may be expected to seep more gently and co-operatively out of the bottle than the possibly balky and truculent Haitch P Sauce. Haitch G Wells sounds to me a more aggressive man, and writer, than Aitch G Wells. An Aitch R Aitch might be expected to proffer a limp regal handshake, where Haitch R Haitch sounds more apt for trouble in nightclubs and service in Iraq. Likewise I'd expect a more compassionate welcome from the N Aitch S than I would from the N Haitch S - a form that sounds the more unsettling because it also suggests the word "hitch". It's notable, though, that even aggressive haitchers will still use the gentler form when it's a middle initial. A former nurse, from Wiltshire, not Ireland, to whom I was talking this week, though in all other senses a committed haitcher, referred throughout to the N Aitch S - or rather, as we all tend to do, to the N A Chess. Long may this reassuring practice continue. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: For all Americans, Canadians, South Africans or others who are interested in hearing such a grotesque pronunciation of the letter H, listen with horror:
No wonder kids are fucked up. Down with haitch! Moonbeam, I will glady contribute to the eradication of the evil that is haitch. I'd have to divide my money between this and the eradication of "could care less" though. "...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb | |
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Moonbeam said: For all Americans, Canadians, South Africans or others who are interested in hearing such a grotesque pronunciation of the letter H, listen with horror:
Too funny! --»You're my favourite moment, you're my Saturday... | |
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connorhawke said: Moonbeam said: For all Americans, Canadians, South Africans or others who are interested in hearing such a grotesque pronunciation of the letter H, listen with horror:
No wonder kids are fucked up. Down with haitch! Moonbeam, I will glady contribute to the eradication of the evil that is haitch. I'd have to divide my money between this and the eradication of "could care less" though. Oh, I'll jump on that hate train too. "Should of"/"could of"/"would of" is another pet peeve, along with the misuse of apostrophes and the there/their/they're conundrum. Haitch has become my prime target, though. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Diva said: Too funny!
You would take pleasure in a mushroom saying "haitch", wouldn't you? Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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