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Printablerocknrolldave said: ZombieKitten said: I mean why bother putting a haitch at the start of herb, why not spell it erb
 We pronouce the "h" in "herb" in the UK! Much more important: Which looks correct to you: *"Herb" starts with an "H" *"Herb" starts with a "H" Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said:[quote] connorhawke said: This site teaches the rules as I know them, but later says: Merriam-Webster's Dictionary says that we can use an before an h- word that begins with an unstressed syllable. Thus, we might say an hisTORical moment, but we would say a HIStory book. Many writers would call that an affectation and prefer that we say a historical, but apparently, this choice is a matter of personal taste.
 This seems to make the most sense (the article talking about stressed syllables) Also this is obviously the fact that was missing from my brain (reading the article, I can now hear that teacher droning the same rules of stressed syllables). that I must have blocked out. I don't know about the personal taste thingo though. Not sure I agree with that.
So therefore it SHOULD be 'an hotel' and 'an herb'. If we follow that rule, people could say 'a hotel' if their accent stressed the 'tel' instead of the 'ho', but by the same rule we should ALL say 'an herb'. Now I have to un-teach 'an historical' but I don't know how easy that will be if the same rule tells me I should keep 'an history' I'm so confused now!  "...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb | |
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connorhawke said: Moonbeam said: This seems to make the most sense (the article talking about stressed syllables) Also this is obviously the fact that was missing from my brain (reading the article, I can now hear that teacher droning the same rules of stressed syllables). that I must have blocked out. I don't know about the personal taste thingo though. Not sure I agree with that.
So therefore it SHOULD be 'an hotel' and 'an herb'. If we follow that rule, people could say 'a hotel' if their accent stressed the 'tel' instead of the 'ho', but by the same rule we should ALL say 'an herb'. Now I have to un-teach 'an historical' but I don't know how easy that will be if the same rule tells me I should keep 'an history' I'm so confused now! That article says you can use "an" when the first syllable isn't stressed, but not that you must. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: rocknrolldave said: We pronouce the "h" in "herb" in the UK! Much more important: Which looks correct to you: *"Herb" starts with an "H" *"Herb" starts with a "H" AN!!!!! Grrrrr "...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb | |
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connorhawke said: Moonbeam said: Much more important: Which looks correct to you: *"Herb" starts with an "H" *"Herb" starts with a "H" AN!!!!! Grrrrr  Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: connorhawke said: This seems to make the most sense (the article talking about stressed syllables) Also this is obviously the fact that was missing from my brain (reading the article, I can now hear that teacher droning the same rules of stressed syllables). that I must have blocked out. I don't know about the personal taste thingo though. Not sure I agree with that.
So therefore it SHOULD be 'an hotel' and 'an herb'. If we follow that rule, people could say 'a hotel' if their accent stressed the 'tel' instead of the 'ho', but by the same rule we should ALL say 'an herb'. Now I have to un-teach 'an historical' but I don't know how easy that will be if the same rule tells me I should keep 'an history' I'm so confused now! That article says you can use "an" when the first syllable isn't stressed, but not that you must. Phew
I'm set in my ways, you see. Thanks for the grammatical clarification though. I appreciate it. You just filled in a corrupted area of my brain I think! "...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb | |
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rocknrolldave said: ZombieKitten said: I mean why bother putting a haitch at the start of herb, why not spell it erb
We pronouce the "h" in "herb" in the UK! Unless you're Scouse  "...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb | |
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So GD stands for Grammatics Discussion?
Who'd have guessed! | |
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PANDURITO said: So GD stands for Grammatics Discussion?
Who'd have guessed! When it comes to haitch, it's to everyone's benefit that we eradicate the filth here and now. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: When it comes to haitch, it's to everyone's benefit that we eradicate the filth here and now.
I'm with you there
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Moonbeam said: whistle said: i pronounce the letter Z as 'zed'. am i evil?
Not evil, but a bit suspect.  That's a British thing. My family is from a former British colony so I grew up hearing Z often pronounced "zed" too. Not evil at all. | |
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sextonseven said: Moonbeam said: Not evil, but a bit suspect. That's a British thing. My family is from a former British colony so I grew up hearing Z often pronounced "zed" too. Not evil at all. Yeah, not evil or strange at all, but still suspect. I mean, the alphabet song does rhyme when it's pronounced "zed". Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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PANDURITO said: Moonbeam said: When it comes to haitch, it's to everyone's benefit that we eradicate the filth here and now.
I'm with you there
I'm a lover, not a haitcher YES! Mind if I use that for my signature? Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: PANDURITO said: I'm with you there
I'm a lover, not a haitcher YES! Mind if I use that for my signature? What are you waiting for? | |
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Imago said: Oh hush! People's lives are at stake, here! Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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whistle said: i pronounce the letter Z as 'zed'. am i evil?
Definitely. Anyone who's lifestyle prevents them from a perfectly rhyming alphabet song is clearly troubled. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Moonbeam said: Imago said: Oh hush! People's lives are at stake, here!
I get kind of annoyed at my friends on the other side of the pond who pronounce 'herb' with the 'h'. I mean, that's just ghetto. | |
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It's all Anne Heche's fault..... MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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Moonbeam said: Apparently haitchers argue that the pronunciation of the letter should start with the sound the letter makes, but then I ask, why not say feff, lell, memm, nenn, rarr, sess, wubble-you, xex and yawhy?
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I totally agree with every single word of this. Love | |
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LazarusHeart said: I totally agree with every single word of this.
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tinaz said: ZombieKitten said: Go and do a survey.
I've found those who went to catholic school, pronounce the "h" at the beginning, those who didn't, do not. I went to catholic school and I dont pronounce the "h"... I don't think they do in USA anywhere do they?  Moonbeam is currently living and going crazy in Australia | |
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ZombieKitten said: tinaz said: I went to catholic school and I dont pronounce the "h"... I don't think they do in USA anywhere do they? Moonbeam is currently living and going crazy in AustraliaPoor Moonbeam
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ZombieKitten said: tinaz said: I went to catholic school and I dont pronounce the "h"... I don't think they do in USA anywhere do they? Moonbeam is currently living and going crazy in AustraliaAustralia's great! It's the haitch that is the thorn in my side.  Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: ZombieKitten said: I don't think they do in USA anywhere do they? Moonbeam is currently living and going crazy in AustraliaAustralia's great! It's the haitch that is the thorn in my side. Do what I do. As soon as someone says haitch, threaten to cut them out of your will
They'll soon learn "lol: "...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb | |
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connorhawke said: Moonbeam said: Australia's great! It's the haitch that is the thorn in my side. Do what I do. As soon as someone says haitch, threaten to cut them out of your will
They'll soon learn "lol:  Your haitch-hate is truly inspiring!Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: connorhawke said: Do what I do. As soon as someone says haitch, threaten to cut them out of your will
They'll soon learn Your haitch-hate is truly inspiring!Thank you. I do try.
On the same vein but a little unrelated: I also want a T-shirt that says "walk on the left you selfish bastards, it's custom" Don't think it would go down well with the general populace though. "...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb | |
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