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Thread started 08/18/09 4:19pm

DesireeNevermi
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HISPANICS AND ASIANS....

Are they still underrepresented in film, television, and mainstream print media or is it about right? If it's not right, is it just business or something else?

Current Recognizable ladies...

Eva Longoria - television, film
Eva Mendes - film
Jennifer Lopez - music, film, fashion
Penelope Cruz - film
Salma Hayak - film, activism

Gong Li - actress
Zhang Ziyi - actress
Lucy Lu - acress



Current Recognizable fellas...


Bejamin Bratt - film
Javier Bardem - film
Antonio Banderas - film, music
George Lopez - televsion, stand-up

Jackie Chan - film
John Cho - film
Russell Wong - film, television


that Asian dude from Linkin Park (can't remember his name) Dr. Han or something - music
Doug Robb - music, lead singer of Hoobastank
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Reply #1 posted 08/18/09 4:21pm

Imago

It's not that Asians don't appear in film. They certainly do. And the representation has become more and more 'normal' over time.

But when I see an Asian in a movie I always brace myself expecting to see an impending martial arts scene or some other ridiculous stereotype.
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Reply #2 posted 08/18/09 4:22pm

DesireeNevermi
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so hollywood and mainstream media only showcases asians in martial arts films. that IS stereotyping alright and they're making money off of it.
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Reply #3 posted 08/18/09 4:42pm

Imago

DesireeNevermind said:

so hollywood and mainstream media only showcases asians in martial arts films. that IS stereotyping alright and they're making money off of it.


Well, Asians only comprise 3% of the US population from what I'm told. And by Asians (to my European friends), I'm speaking specifically of the 'Oriental' variety and not the 'Indian' variety. (I know folks who get really piseed off about the use of that word, but we use it in Thailand, and Asians that I know don't take issue with it--it describes the yellow variety of Asians from my point of view)

But anyway, Asians only comprise 3% of the US population. So I understand why we would often get stereotyped. And the stereotypes are now at least not completely offensive or hurtful like they used to be when I was growing up.


So, it's not that I want to see other Asians on T.V.--I honestly don't give a rats ass what race the person is on T.V. But when Asians are shown, it's always refreshing when it's not a kung fu artist or a rocket scientist.
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Reply #4 posted 08/18/09 6:54pm

johnart

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Didn't Alba ask that she not be referred to as Latina? rolleyes
I don't know if she took it back, but there was some bruhaha about that.lol
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Reply #5 posted 08/18/09 6:56pm

IAintTheOne

johnart said:

Didn't Alba ask that she not be referred to as Latina? rolleyes
I don't know if she took it back, but there was some bruhaha about that.lol



We can take her Latina card away.... we did it Jennifer Lopez.. we decided to let Marc Anthony keep his since he did Hector so damn good smile
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Reply #6 posted 08/18/09 7:01pm

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IAintTheOne said:

johnart said:

Didn't Alba ask that she not be referred to as Latina? rolleyes
I don't know if she took it back, but there was some bruhaha about that.lol



We can take her Latina card away.... we did it Jennifer Lopez.. we decided to let Marc Anthony keep his since he did Hector so damn good smile


lol
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Reply #7 posted 08/18/09 7:23pm

IAintTheOne

johnart said:

IAintTheOne said:




We can take her Latina card away.... we did it Jennifer Lopez.. we decided to let Marc Anthony keep his since he did Hector so damn good smile


lol


Tell me im wrong smile
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Reply #8 posted 08/18/09 8:02pm

kcwm

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Don't forget Kal Penn. Although his not acting anymore and doing stuff for Obama but he still did a fair few movies and 2 seasons on House
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Reply #9 posted 08/18/09 8:37pm

SavonOsco

You forgot Sandra Oh,B.D Wong,Roselyn Sanchez and some others..but there shouldn't be a "quota" for certain races or anything like that.That's what African Americans have been talking about for years.It should be about an equal chance to get roles and hopefully not the stereotypical black,Asian,and Latina
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Reply #10 posted 08/19/09 4:12am

Huggiebear

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What about Polynesians, y'all must think they are invisible over there, or they are all more represented in Hawaii and New Zealand. Isn't the Rock Samoan. When I say Polynesians, I mean Maori, Hawaiians, Tongans and Samoans.
So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time
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Reply #11 posted 08/19/09 6:32am

PopeLeo

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[pedantic]

Strictly speaking, the term 'Hispanic' doesn't refer to people from Spain, so that gets rid of Cruz, Banderas and Bardem from the list.

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Reply #12 posted 08/19/09 6:47am

uPtoWnNY

Imago said:

DesireeNevermind said:

so hollywood and mainstream media only showcases asians in martial arts films. that IS stereotyping alright and they're making money off of it.


Well, Asians only comprise 3% of the US population from what I'm told. And by Asians (to my European friends), I'm speaking specifically of the 'Oriental' variety and not the 'Indian' variety. (I know folks who get really piseed off about the use of that word, but we use it in Thailand, and Asians that I know don't take issue with it--it describes the yellow variety of Asians from my point of view)

But anyway, Asians only comprise 3% of the US population. So I understand why we would often get stereotyped. And the stereotypes are now at least not completely offensive or hurtful like they used to be when I was growing up.


So, it's not that I want to see other Asians on T.V.--I honestly don't give a rats ass what race the person is on T.V. But when Asians are shown, it's always refreshing when it's not a kung fu artist or a rocket scientist.


For that to happen Imago, you need more Asians in positions of power behind the scenes(writers, directors) - like an Asian Spike Lee. Otherwise, it's business as usual in Hollywood.

Funny - I stopped using 'oriental' years ago, because I was told it's offensive. It should be used to describe inanimate objects, not people.
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Reply #13 posted 08/19/09 7:02am

thekidsgirl

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In major Hollywood productions, sure! All minorities are still underrepresented.
Thats why it's nice to break away from those! There are other movies out there smile
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Reply #14 posted 08/19/09 7:04am

thekidsgirl

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oh and...



horny
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Reply #15 posted 08/19/09 7:44am

Ottensen

DesireeNevermind said:

Are they still underrepresented in film, television, and mainstream print media or is it about right? If it's not right, is it just business or something else?

Current Recognizable ladies...

Eva Longoria - television, film
Eva Mendes - film
Jennifer Lopez - music, film, fashion
Penelope Cruz - film
Salma Hayak - film, activism

Gong Li - actress
Zhang Ziyi - actress
Lucy Lu - acress



Current Recognizable fellas...


Bejamin Bratt - film
Javier Bardem - film
Antonio Banderas - film, music
George Lopez - televsion, stand-up

Jackie Chan - film
John Cho - film
Russell Wong - film, television


that Asian dude from Linkin Park (can't remember his name) Dr. Han or something - music
Doug Robb - music, lead singer of Hoobastank



You forgot...

Keanu Reeves
Ken Wantanabe
Margaret Cho
Maggie Chueng

I'm trying to think of who else I've been accustomed to seeing through the years in mass media hmmm ...
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Reply #16 posted 08/19/09 7:54am

JellyBean

Imago said:

It's not that Asians don't appear in film. They certainly do. And the representation has become more and more 'normal' over time.

But when I see an Asian in a movie I always brace myself expecting to see an impending martial arts scene or some other ridiculous stereotype.



I hear ya.
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Reply #17 posted 08/19/09 9:08am

DesireeNevermi
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Ottensen said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Are they still underrepresented in film, television, and mainstream print media or is it about right? If it's not right, is it just business or something else?

Current Recognizable ladies...

Eva Longoria - television, film
Eva Mendes - film
Jennifer Lopez - music, film, fashion
Penelope Cruz - film
Salma Hayak - film, activism

Gong Li - actress
Zhang Ziyi - actress
Lucy Lu - acress



Current Recognizable fellas...


Bejamin Bratt - film
Javier Bardem - film
Antonio Banderas - film, music
George Lopez - televsion, stand-up

Jackie Chan - film
John Cho - film
Russell Wong - film, television


that Asian dude from Linkin Park (can't remember his name) Dr. Han or something - music
Doug Robb - music, lead singer of Hoobastank



You forgot...

Keanu Reeves
Ken Wantanabe
Margaret Cho
Maggie Chueng

I'm trying to think of who else I've been accustomed to seeing through the years in mass media hmmm ...




I left him out because I think he's managed to convince himself and others that he is white.
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Reply #18 posted 08/19/09 9:09am

DesireeNevermi
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thekidsgirl said:

oh and...



horny



did you see him in the film Blindness? Ooh he was a bad boy.
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Reply #19 posted 08/19/09 9:29am

thekidsgirl

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DesireeNevermind said:

thekidsgirl said:

oh and...



horny



did you see him in the film Blindness? Ooh he was a bad boy.


I haven't seen it yet, but I have read about it and I want to see it biggrin
Was it a good film?
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Reply #20 posted 08/19/09 9:55am

PurpleJedi

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If we (Hispanics) and Asians want more representation in Hollywood, then we need to get off our butts and;

A) get to WRITING more ethnic-themed screenplays, as opposed to wishing that Hollywood insert ethnic actors into caucasian-penned roles.

B) start SUPPORTING more ethnic-themed movies!!! When a studio releases a major motion film of ethnic content (i.e. "Mí Familia" or "Joy Luck Club") - if every Hispanic or Asian went to go see the film & make it a box-office success, then there would be a reason for the studio to make more of the like (instead of another "Fast & Furious" sequel). OK, so maybe you don't like "serious" epic films? Well, 2003's "Chasing Papi" with a nearly 100% Hispanic cast (including our very own Sheila E as a cameo) was a lighthearted romantic comedy that no one went to see.

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Reply #21 posted 08/19/09 10:18am

thekidsgirl

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here are some ladies off the top of my head

If you will, so will I
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Reply #22 posted 08/19/09 10:31am

DesireeNevermi
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thekidsgirl said:

DesireeNevermind said:




did you see him in the film Blindness? Ooh he was a bad boy.


I haven't seen it yet, but I have read about it and I want to see it biggrin
Was it a good film?



IMO it started out good then went quickly downhill.
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Reply #23 posted 08/19/09 10:31am

thekidsgirl

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Judy Reyes


Gina Torres


Kat Von D


Paz Vega

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Reply #24 posted 08/19/09 10:34am

kimrachell

thekidsgirl said:

oh and...



horny


looks like julia roberts brother... lol lol
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Reply #25 posted 08/19/09 10:35am

thekidsgirl

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DesireeNevermind said:

thekidsgirl said:



I haven't seen it yet, but I have read about it and I want to see it biggrin
Was it a good film?



IMO it started out good then went quickly downhill.


Yeah, it's ratings were very mediocre, but I still need to see it for Gael. I'm sure it can't be so bad. He's never in a bad movie biggrin
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Reply #26 posted 08/19/09 10:36am

thekidsgirl

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kimrachell said:

thekidsgirl said:

oh and...



horny


looks like julia roberts brother... lol lol


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Reply #27 posted 08/19/09 10:45am

JessieJ

thekidsgirl said:

oh and...



horny

drooling fallinluv drooling
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Reply #28 posted 08/19/09 10:47am

DesireeNevermi
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Huggiebear said:

What about Polynesians, y'all must think they are invisible over there, or they are all more represented in Hawaii and New Zealand. Isn't the Rock Samoan. When I say Polynesians, I mean Maori, Hawaiians, Tongans and Samoans.



The Rock is half black and half samoan. There is a Maori actor but I can't recollect his name. He plays everything from a Mexican to an Arab to a Puerto Rican. He's got that kind of look where if you didn't already know what Maori's looked like you wouldn't be able to identify his race. He played a Mexican in Training Day and Blow, then an arab I think in Three Kings.
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Reply #29 posted 08/19/09 10:58am

thekidsgirl

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JessieJ said:

thekidsgirl said:

oh and...



horny

drooling fallinluv drooling


I was waiting for you to chime in! hug

but he's MINE sista no no no!
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