thekidsgirl said:

IMO it started out good then went quickly downhill.

johnart said:

Tell me im wrong

JessieJ said:

I was waiting for you to chime in!

but he's MINE sista

What about Polynesians, y'all must think they are invisible over there, or they are all more represented in Hawaii and New Zealand. Isn't the Rock Samoan. When I say Polynesians, I mean Maori, Hawaiians, Tongans and Samoans.

[pedantic]

Strictly speaking, the term 'Hispanic' doesn't refer to people from Spain, so that gets rid of Cruz, Banderas and Bardem from the list.

[/pedantic]

The Rock is half black and half samoan.

PopeLeo said:

Antonio Banderas said once in an interview that he always thought he was white, until he was told in Hollywood he wasn't

Huggiebear said:

The Rock is half black and half samoan. There is a Maori actor but I can't recollect his name. He plays everything from a Mexican to an Arab to a Puerto Rican. He's got that kind of look where if you didn't already know what Maori's looked like you wouldn't be able to identify his race. He played a Mexican in Training Day and Blow, then an arab I think in Three Kings.

thekidsgirl said:

IMO it started out good then went quickly downhill.

DesireeNevermind said:

The movie had potential but I was left with a stomach-ache and a deep hatred for humanity and what we are capable of doing to each other. Some of those scenes were gut-wrenching.
[Edited 8/19/09 15:40pm]

noimageatall said:

I kind of agree but then I try and give humanity a little more credit than Hollywood does...I try anyway. that film was sad at some points and then left me with a "that's it?" feeling.

IAintTheOne said:

I know what you're sayin, but I'd rather not take anyone's card away.
I rather say You are what you are honey, and if you don't like it, too fuckin bad, cuz you don't get to pick somethin else.


Late response, I know.

johnart said:

hahahahahaha true true.... cus I love my beautiful Puerto Rican self

IAintTheOne said:

Boricua tambien! WEPA!

johnart said:

we need more of us around this joint

Ottensen said:

I left him out because I think he's managed to convince himself and others that he is white.

DesireeNevermind said:

How You Know??

johnart said:

we need more of us around this joint

IAintTheOne said:

(I'm "Catracho" but I do love my Boricua wife!)

Ottensen said:

I left him out because I think he's managed to convince himself and others that he is white.

What bugs me is that all Hispanic roles are always cast with folks that look "Spanish." When in fact, outside of Mexico and Spain, a large number of Spanish-speaking folks are straight up black or at the very least have quite a bit of African ancestry. The only Latina actress whose African ancestry is visible and is cast regularly is Lauren Velez. But most obviously black Latina actresses are usually cast as African-American rather than Latina. Newsflash: All Puerto Ricans or Latinas don't look like J.Lo. A lot of Americans are ignorant to the fact that there are a LOT of black Latinos in the world. I shock people anytime I speak Spanish in public.

SCNDLS said:

Spanish TV is the worst offender, especially the novellas. You rarely see black Latinos in primary roles.

uPtoWnNY said:

I be like what the fuck??? Anytime there is a black woman, she's usually the maid or nanny. The sad thing is that Latinos are just as colorstruck, if not moreso, than African-Americans and perpetuate this myth in the Spanish-speaking media. I'm constantly reminding my Rican friends that perm their naps regularly just like me that the slave ships were rolling through their hood too.

I was watching a bit of the Miss Universe pageant last night and reminded of how important these beauty pageants are in Latino countries. I remember as a kid staying up to watch who would be crowned Miss Panama and watching for any glimpse of her on the Miss Universe pageant. These women become national treasures and are a source of great pride.

However, every year, without fail, my family would be disappointed when, once again, a black girl would NEVER win although more than 50% of the country is of African descent. Another pet peeve of mine is when countries like Jamaica or South Africa have a white or damn near white contestant when that's not representative of the general population further perpetuating that even in a 90% black country that the only true measure of beauty is a white woman.
[Edited 8/24/09 8:21am]

SCNDLS said:

SCNDLS you never cease to amaze me. I think most non-whites are colorstruck to a certain degree and perhaps that is due to european trade &marketing, colonization, and politics. I think whomever is perceived to be at the top of the socio-economic ladder and food chain will also become the ideal for beauty. This is why many a telenovela have very light skinned and dyed blond actors, why eye lid surgery is so desired in asian countries and nose jobs are so desired in arabic countries. I think however as the global economny changes then so will the standards of beauty. The more white people tan their skin and perm their hair to make it curly then the less people will aspire to look like a Pamela Anderson or David Beckham. At least I hope so. I'm a little unsure now that Kim Kardashian has gone blond.