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Reply #30 posted 08/05/09 6:26pm

ZombieKitten

johnart said:

heybaby said:

In theory critiques should be helpful. I think that his 'critique' was more subjective which doesn't benefit you at all. As an artist I'm sure your used to all kinds of critiques so this should roll off your back. I wouldn't pay it any mind. Just keep doing what your doing. to each its own.


Critiques roll off my back. I take notes on what I find helpful, but that's about it.
What I'm hung up on is that the critique is about an important component of my work. Everyone doesn't have to like my imagery, but all you have to do is look at my website (which he did in detail before signing me) to know that that scale is the norm for me. It's kind of like critiquing Picasso (not comparing myself) for painting facial features in odd places on the face. Or Keith Haring for not painting enough facial features in his figures. It's what they do.

More so, I almost feel (and again this could just be me) that it was kind of an unprofessional way to put it, considering you're an agent dealing with someone you're starting a professional relationship with.


especially an art agent confuse
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Reply #31 posted 08/05/09 6:28pm

ZombieKitten

johnart said:

ZombieKitten said:


send him a still life mad WITHOUT nude


Or call him and say, I've changed my style altogether.
From now on I'm only painting pussies and hotdogs...together.


love can you make one for me? with pink feathers all around!
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Reply #32 posted 08/05/09 7:04pm

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ZombieKitten said:

johnart said:



Or call him and say, I've changed my style altogether.
From now on I'm only painting pussies and hotdogs...together.


love can you make one for me? with pink feathers all around!


Painted, or collaged onto the canvas?
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Reply #33 posted 08/05/09 7:32pm

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WTF?!...so it's only art if you can wank to it?
everyone's a fruit & nut case
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Reply #34 posted 08/05/09 7:43pm

ZombieKitten

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ZombieKitten said:



love can you make one for me? with pink feathers all around!


Painted, or collaged onto the canvas?


OMG this is going to be AWESOME!!! excited
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Reply #35 posted 08/05/09 7:57pm

Fauxie

I love your work. smile

I also love this woman's prints and t-shirts:

http://www.redbubble.com/...art?page=4

Has thick, rotund ladies too smile

Her Asian-themed ones are just gawjus!

http://www.redbubble.com/...sian-spice
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Reply #36 posted 08/05/09 8:02pm

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Fauxie said:

I love your work. smile

I also love this woman's prints and t-shirts:

http://www.redbubble.com/...art?page=4

Has thick, rotund ladies too smile

Her Asian-themed ones are just gawjus!

http://www.redbubble.com/...sian-spice


OOH! I love her!!!

http://www.redbubble.com/...l-red-rose love
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Reply #37 posted 08/05/09 8:10pm

Fauxie

johnart said:

Fauxie said:

I love your work. smile

I also love this woman's prints and t-shirts:

http://www.redbubble.com/...art?page=4

Has thick, rotund ladies too smile

Her Asian-themed ones are just gawjus!

http://www.redbubble.com/...sian-spice


OOH! I love her!!!

http://www.redbubble.com/...l-red-rose love
[Edited 8/5/09 20:03pm]


She's great. I'm thinking about buying some t-shirts with the cute Geisha girl prints for Mon. smile
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Reply #38 posted 08/05/09 9:48pm

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what a douchebag.
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Reply #39 posted 08/05/09 9:56pm

sammij

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He clearly isn't well versed in the visual arts then falloff

I would simply reply with yet another copy of your artist statement reiterating your use of larger women.

I wouldn't say anything else but "Please review my artist statement for further explanation."

And explain to him, firmly, that you wouldn't ever consider changing your style for the possibility of better marketing, so he should consider not bringing it up to you again, if he wants this relationship to work.

nod

I used to get this all the time from professors. You just have to find a smart/sharp way of saying fuck you, without actually saying "Fuck you."

Fuck you edit.
[Edited 8/5/09 21:56pm]
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Reply #40 posted 08/05/09 10:14pm

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sammij said:

He clearly isn't well versed in the visual arts then falloff

I would simply reply with yet another copy of your artist statement reiterating your use of larger women.

I wouldn't say anything else but "Please review my artist statement for further explanation."

And explain to him, firmly, that you wouldn't ever consider changing your style for the possibility of better marketing, so he should consider not bringing it up to you again, if he wants this relationship to work.

nod

I used to get this all the time from professors. You just have to find a smart/sharp way of saying fuck you, without actually saying "Fuck you."

Fuck you edit.
[Edited 8/5/09 21:56pm]


I completely agree. hug

I like your reply better pout, but I sent this earlier:
I may try my hand at some thinner more delicate ones NOT giggle but no women I paint are usually delicate. They are generally thick and voluptuous in the Leger/Botero manner.
The other ones you picked were all thick also.


And attached these pics of "thicker" gals he'd already picked:




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Reply #41 posted 08/05/09 10:22pm

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He's so clueless.
These women are beautiful.

No wonder he's just a dealer rolleyes :pretentious: lol
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Reply #42 posted 08/05/09 10:24pm

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sammij said:

He's so clueless.
These women are beautiful.

No wonder he's just a dealer rolleyes :pretentious: lol


lol

Thank you. hug
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Reply #43 posted 08/05/09 10:24pm

sammij

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johnart said:

sammij said:

He's so clueless.
These women are beautiful.

No wonder he's just a dealer rolleyes :pretentious: lol


lol

Thank you. hug

hug
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Reply #44 posted 08/05/09 10:28pm

sammij

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johnart said:

sammij said:

He clearly isn't well versed in the visual arts then falloff

I would simply reply with yet another copy of your artist statement reiterating your use of larger women.

I wouldn't say anything else but "Please review my artist statement for further explanation."

And explain to him, firmly, that you wouldn't ever consider changing your style for the possibility of better marketing, so he should consider not bringing it up to you again, if he wants this relationship to work.

nod

I used to get this all the time from professors. You just have to find a smart/sharp way of saying fuck you, without actually saying "Fuck you."

Fuck you edit.
[Edited 8/5/09 21:56pm]


I completely agree. hug

I like your reply better pout, but I sent this earlier:
I may try my hand at some thinner more delicate ones NOT giggle but no women I paint are usually delicate. They are generally thick and voluptuous in the Leger/Botero manner.
The other ones you picked were all thick also.


It's just that I'm usually never willing to bastardize my art in the name of opinion or personal preference. And the subject's come up often - not necessarily for marketing purposes, but for aesthetic reasons. And I'm really stubborn lol My work stays my work. nod

Perhaps it's not too smart, being very young and very small in the game, but it's been working thus far lol

I still take criticism, I often really thrive on it, but when it comes to something like this? I'm a brick house. nod
...the little artist that could...
[...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...]
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Reply #45 posted 08/05/09 10:35pm

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sammij said:

johnart said:



I completely agree. hug

I like your reply better pout, but I sent this earlier:
I may try my hand at some thinner more delicate ones NOT giggle but no women I paint are usually delicate. They are generally thick and voluptuous in the Leger/Botero manner.
The other ones you picked were all thick also.


It's just that I'm usually never willing to bastardize my art in the name of opinion or personal preference. And the subject's come up often - not necessarily for marketing purposes, but for aesthetic reasons. And I'm really stubborn lol My work stays my work. nod

Perhaps it's not too smart, being very young and very small in the game, but it's been working thus far lol

I still take criticism, I often really thrive on it, but when it comes to something like this? I'm a brick house. nod


No you are correct. I am too.
This took me by surprise. I mean I'm not afraid of my work being considered "commercial" as long as it's my work. I'm not someone who does much to do with commission. I'm willing to work with a theme (if it interests me lol) as long as my style remains my style.

He signed me based on my portfolio. How you gonna ask me something different now?
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Reply #46 posted 08/05/09 10:36pm

sammij

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johnart said:

sammij said:


It's just that I'm usually never willing to bastardize my art in the name of opinion or personal preference. And the subject's come up often - not necessarily for marketing purposes, but for aesthetic reasons. And I'm really stubborn lol My work stays my work. nod

Perhaps it's not too smart, being very young and very small in the game, but it's been working thus far lol

I still take criticism, I often really thrive on it, but when it comes to something like this? I'm a brick house. nod


No you are correct. I am too.
This took me by surprise. I mean I'm not afraid of my work being considered "commercial" as long as it's my work. I'm not someone who does much to do with commission. I'm willing to work with a theme (if it interests me lol) as long as my style remains my style.

He signed me based on my portfolio. How you gonna ask me something different now?

Yeah, I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around that lol

Is his background in the visual arts?
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Reply #47 posted 08/05/09 10:56pm

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sammij said:

johnart said:



No you are correct. I am too.
This took me by surprise. I mean I'm not afraid of my work being considered "commercial" as long as it's my work. I'm not someone who does much to do with commission. I'm willing to work with a theme (if it interests me lol) as long as my style remains my style.

He signed me based on my portfolio. How you gonna ask me something different now?

Yeah, I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around that lol

Is his background in the visual arts?


has licensed over $600 million in retail goods over his thirty-year career in art-based licenses.
He wrote a book on Art licensing too.

We shall see how things go...maybe he's just abrasive. If he gets me deals I'll manage. lol Time will tell.
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Reply #48 posted 08/05/09 11:23pm

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johnart said:

sammij said:


Yeah, I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around that lol

Is his background in the visual arts?


has licensed over $600 million in retail goods over his thirty-year career in art-based licenses.
He wrote a book on Art licensing too.

We shall see how things go...maybe he's just abrasive. If he gets me deals I'll manage. lol Time will tell.

lol Best of luck, keep us posted! hug
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Reply #49 posted 08/06/09 10:00am

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Imago said:

paintedlady said:


nod One of my favorite pieces is by Klimt, Danae....



her rounded thigh makes this portrait stunning to me. love



Why is she spitting gold coins out of her vageene ?



I saw something like that in Bangkok.

Its coochie confetti lurking didn't ya know? lol
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Reply #50 posted 08/06/09 7:30pm

ingamilo

what can increase?
I arrived late and they already spoke almost everything...
I like your work
reminds me the works of nicola heindl


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Reply #51 posted 08/06/09 7:53pm

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ingamilo said:

what can increase?
I arrived late and they already spoke almost everything...
I like your work
reminds me the works of nicola heindl



is this artist responsible for the artwork on the Putumayo world music CD collection?
...the little artist that could...
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Reply #52 posted 08/06/09 7:58pm

ingamilo

sammij said:

ingamilo said:

what can increase?
I arrived late and they already spoke almost everything...
I like your work
reminds me the works of nicola heindl



is this artist responsible for the artwork on the Putumayo world music CD collection?

sim; I think so
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Reply #53 posted 08/06/09 8:00pm

Imago

paintedlady said:

Imago said:




Why is she spitting gold coins out of her vageene ?



I saw something like that in Bangkok.

Its coochie confetti lurking didn't ya know? lol

Coochie confetti!!! falloff

That's going in my signature.
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Reply #54 posted 08/06/09 8:04pm

johnart

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ingamilo said:

what can increase?
I arrived late and they already spoke almost everything...
I like your work
reminds me the works of nicola heindl




Love that!

ANd my agent would like it. She's pretty thin. lol
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Reply #55 posted 08/06/09 8:08pm

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sammij said:[quote]

ingamilo said:

what can increase?
I arrived late and they already spoke almost everything...
I like your work
reminds me the works of nicola heindl


is this artist responsible for the artwork on the Putumayo world music CD collection?


It's funny, I LOVE those covers and their one of the things that motivated me to look into licensing. I could see my work on covers like that.

Also wine bottle or natural food labels, for some reason. lol
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Reply #56 posted 08/06/09 8:21pm

sammij

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johnart said:[quote]

sammij said:

ingamilo said:

what can increase?
I arrived late and they already spoke almost everything...
I like your work
reminds me the works of nicola heindl


is this artist responsible for the artwork on the Putumayo world music CD collection?


It's funny, I LOVE those covers and their one of the things that motivated me to look into licensing. I could see my work on covers like that.

Also wine bottle or natural food labels, for some reason. lol

love i'd love to see your art around so i could buy it and be like "yeah, an artist friend of mine is the mastermind behind this nod "
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Reply #57 posted 08/06/09 8:26pm

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sammij said:

johnart said:



It's funny, I LOVE those covers and their one of the things that motivated me to look into licensing. I could see my work on covers like that.

Also wine bottle or natural food labels, for some reason. lol

love i'd love to see your art around so i could buy it and be like "yeah, an artist friend of mine is the mastermind behind this nod "


It will happen. I believe it will. nod
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Reply #58 posted 08/06/09 8:42pm

ingamilo

sammij said:

johnart said:



It's funny, I LOVE those covers and their one of the things that motivated me to look into licensing. I could see my work on covers like that.

Also wine bottle or natural food labels, for some reason. lol

love i'd love to see your art around so i could buy it and be like "yeah, an artist friend of mine is the mastermind behind this nod "

yes; it will be like this ;-)and I drink and saúdo that event with a Martini Bianco
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Reply #59 posted 08/06/09 8:44pm

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ingamilo said:

sammij said:


love i'd love to see your art around so i could buy it and be like "yeah, an artist friend of mine is the mastermind behind this nod "

yes; it will be like this wink


hug
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