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PrintableMars23 said: Vendetta1 said: I love you both.
 I tend to agree, for example there is a thread on the org today about how funny it is for four women to tie up a man and glue his penis to his stomach. If the roles were reversed, it would be no laughing matter. The men would be demonized as sexual predators. However... This dude purchased a package entitled "anal". He was clothed, but when another dude got too uncomfortable, he stepped in, got naked, lubed up his ass and well...things happened. Now..no means no, but there does seem to be an opportunity here for the "victim" to have used better judgment. At what point do you reserve the right to be surprised. At which point between lubing up and being penetrated was the right time to stop the party? | |
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Vendetta1 said: Mars23 said: I tend to agree, for example there is a thread on the org today about how funny it is for four women to tie up a man and glue his penis to his stomach. If the roles were reversed, it would be no laughing matter. The men would be demonized as sexual predators. However... This dude purchased a package entitled "anal". He was clothed, but when another dude got too uncomfortable, he stepped in, got naked, lubed up his ass and well...things happened. Now..no means no, but there does seem to be an opportunity here for the "victim" to have used better judgment. At what point do you reserve the right to be surprised. At which point between lubing up and being penetrated was the right time to stop the party? It's not funny, but I can see the confusion that could have led the stripper to believe she was acting with consent. I think rape would be very hard to prove here. A rape is not generally precluded with disrobing and lubing up. Especially after seeing another guy bug out due to the content of the show. Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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moderatorWas he expecting the anal portion to be simulated? Maybe he thought the lubing and nakedness were part of the act and that the dildo would never actually enter him but would only appear to. | |
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Mars23 said: Vendetta1 said: The other story isn't funny to me either. Even if this guy "had it coming", it's still not funny to me.
It's not funny, but I can see the confusion that could have led the stripper to believe she was acting with consent. I think rape would be very hard to prove here. A rape is not generally precluded with disrobing and lubing up. Especially after seeing another guy bug out due to the content of the show. They may get her on sexual misconduct if that. Rape, in most courts of law, requires the act to have the intent to harm, right? But then again, if he specifically asked it, she shouldn't have--no questions asked. | |
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Imago said: Mars23 said: It's not funny, but I can see the confusion that could have led the stripper to believe she was acting with consent. I think rape would be very hard to prove here. A rape is not generally precluded with disrobing and lubing up. Especially after seeing another guy bug out due to the content of the show. They may get her on sexual misconduct if that. Rape, in most courts of law, requires the act to have the intent to harm, right? But then again, if he specifically asked it, she shouldn't have--no questions asked. I think lack of consent is the test for rape, but the water is so muddy in a case like this, it would be difficult to prove. How do you prove he did not give consent after disrobing and applying lube? On top of that he purchased the "anal' package. Doesn't make it right, just difficult to prove. A lot of criminals walk because prosecutors get overzealous and go for charges they feel apply, but cannot be proven. Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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Mars23 said: Imago said: They may get her on sexual misconduct if that. Rape, in most courts of law, requires the act to have the intent to harm, right? But then again, if he specifically asked it, she shouldn't have--no questions asked. I think lack of consent is the test for rape, but the water is so muddy in a case like this, it would be difficult to prove. How do you prove he did not give consent after disrobing and applying lube? On top of that he purchased the "anal' package. Doesn't make it right, just difficult to prove. A lot of criminals walk because prosecutors get overzealous and go for charges they feel apply, but cannot be proven. I think she walks free. | |
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Imago said: Mars23 said: I think lack of consent is the test for rape, but the water is so muddy in a case like this, it would be difficult to prove. How do you prove he did not give consent after disrobing and applying lube? On top of that he purchased the "anal' package. Doesn't make it right, just difficult to prove. A lot of criminals walk because prosecutors get overzealous and go for charges they feel apply, but cannot be proven. I think she walks free. Yep. She's walking out, dildo swingin' Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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I wonder about the best man, was he OK to appear at the wedding? I mean how did this guy deal with the aftermath?  | |
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Mars23 said: Vendetta1 said: The other story isn't funny to me either. Even if this guy "had it coming", it's still not funny to me.
It's not funny, but I can see the confusion that could have led the stripper to believe she was acting with consent. I think rape would be very hard to prove here. A rape is not generally precluded with disrobing and lubing up. Especially after seeing another guy bug out due to the content of the show. Agreed. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: ZombieKitten said: what?  I thought he was drunk and she just hopped on. I don't refer to my secret place as the holy or holies  How about the Hole of holes? | |
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BklynBabe said: "Well it backfired, didn't it,'' he said.
no means no...but no is easier to interpret when you are not butt naked on all fours with your bare ass in the air glistening with baby oil in front of a strap on. Take a little responsibility for your own actions in life.
I wonder if they didn't read the synopsis of her show properly, by "ANAL" they assumed SHE would be the penetrated one, it probably outlined the whole thing in her pamphlet  | |
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ZombieKitten said: BklynBabe said: "Well it backfired, didn't it,'' he said.
no means no...but no is easier to interpret when you are not butt naked on all fours with your bare ass in the air glistening with baby oil in front of a strap on. Take a little responsibility for your own actions in life.
I wonder if they didn't read the synopsis of her show properly, by "ANAL" they assumed SHE would be the penetrated one, it probably outlined the whole thing in her pamphlet 
Can you imagine taking that to get runoff at Kinko's? Could you please bold the part about the best man providing the anal entertainment? | |
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johnart said: ZombieKitten said:
I wonder if they didn't read the synopsis of her show properly, by "ANAL" they assumed SHE would be the penetrated one, it probably outlined the whole thing in her pamphlet
Can you imagine taking that to get runoff at Kinko's? Could you please bold the part about the best man providing the anal entertainment?
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ZombieKitten said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: OH!!!!! I just thought she took advantage of him the regular way!  what? Hey this is way to funky  1 U.S. Dollar = 34 Bahts
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It would have been a much juicier story if the best man had been raped by the groom. 
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meow85 said: Yeah, sexual assault is hilarious.
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A stripper accused of raping the best man at a bucks party has been found not guilty of the charge in a Melbourne court.
After less than a day of deliberation, the Victorian County Court jury found Linda Maree Naggs, 40, whose stage name is Tiffany, not guilty of the charge. In evidence, the court had heard Naggs was the second stripper for the night at the September 2007 Mornington Peninsula party and came armed with a whip, vibrator and "strap-on penis shaped" sex toy. The best man gave evidence at the trial of being pressured by his peers into sitting on the seat where Naggs performed her routine. She stripped him, encouraged him to get on all fours and then put lubricant on him and began moving the dildo around his bottom area, the court heard. Witnesses described how at one point the best man "sort of screamed" and winced. The best man reported the alleged rape to police the next day. Naggs appeared relieved as the verdict was delivered. She later wept as Judge Tim Wood formally discharged her. Outside court, her lawyer James Dowsley said his client wished to thank the jury for the attention they gave to the case and their verdict. Naggs smiled but refused to answer reporters' questions as she left the court area. The complainant was not in court. | |
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I can't decide which is worse - staying on all fours when the lube was being applied or going public with this shit. Either way, dude is fucked. | |
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Not a good look.
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Vendetta1 said: Mars23 said: I tend to agree, for example there is a thread on the org today about how funny it is for four women to tie up a man and glue his penis to his stomach. If the roles were reversed, it would be no laughing matter. The men would be demonized as sexual predators. However... This dude purchased a package entitled "anal". He was clothed, but when another dude got too uncomfortable, he stepped in, got naked, lubed up his ass and well...things happened. Now..no means no, but there does seem to be an opportunity here for the "victim" to have used better judgment. At what point do you reserve the right to be surprised. At which point between lubing up and being penetrated was the right time to stop the party? Ditto. Reverse the genders and nobody would be laughing at either situation. (though there would no doubt be a tonne of victim blaming still...) Rape and assault are not funny. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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If this is a woman it's all different. Game or not. Surprise considering what was happening or not. Better judgment from the victim? He didn't want it. Witnesses said he screamed and winced. Despite the whole 'bought an anal package' thing and how the events unfolded, with people standing on the sidelines cheering if the victim is a woman a guy would not be walking free after that. | |
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Fauxie said: If this is a woman it's all different. Game or not. Surprise considering what was happening or not. Better judgment from the victim? He didn't want it. Witnesses said he screamed and winced. Despite the whole 'bought an anal package' thing and how the events unfolded, with people standing on the sidelines cheering if the victim is a woman a guy would not be walking free after that.
I agree on technicality alone. Meaning that yes, if this were a woman the alleged perpetrator would not be walking free. But I feel that's more because of double standards than what actually supposedly(I wasn't there ) occurred.If this had been a woman, and the circumstances were the same, I personally wouldn't feel any different.
It's like at the point of penetration we magically no longer have any responsibility in what's happening. Even if we've willingly put ourselves (and could just as easily remove ourselves) in the situation. Seriously, they LUBED him up and his "unwilling" ass still up in the air?? Unless he were being held down, unconcious, drugged or SOMETHING, I just don't get where this is rape. Sorry. This just comes across to me more as bad judgment and regret. | |
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johnart said: Fauxie said: If this is a woman it's all different. Game or not. Surprise considering what was happening or not. Better judgment from the victim? He didn't want it. Witnesses said he screamed and winced. Despite the whole 'bought an anal package' thing and how the events unfolded, with people standing on the sidelines cheering if the victim is a woman a guy would not be walking free after that.
I agree on technicality alone. Meaning that yes, if this were a woman the alleged perpetrator would not be walking free. But I feel that's more because of double standards than what actually supposedly(I wasn't there ) occurred.If this had been a woman, and the circumstances were the same, I personally wouldn't feel any different.
It's like at the point of penetration we magically no longer have any responsibility in what's happening. Even if we've willingly put ourselves (and could just as easily remove ourselves) in the situation. Seriously, they LUBED him up and his "unwilling" ass still up in the air?? Unless he were being held down, unconcious, drugged or SOMETHING, I just don't get where this is rape. Sorry. This just comes across to me more as bad judgment and regret. it's a bucks night, in AUSTRALIA for god's sake, the man would have been ROLLING DRUNK!!!!! | |
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ZombieKitten said: johnart said: I agree on technicality alone. Meaning that yes, if this were a woman the alleged perpetrator would not be walking free. But I feel that's more because of double standards than what actually supposedly(I wasn't there ) occurred.If this had been a woman, and the circumstances were the same, I personally wouldn't feel any different.
It's like at the point of penetration we magically no longer have any responsibility in what's happening. Even if we've willingly put ourselves (and could just as easily remove ourselves) in the situation. Seriously, they LUBED him up and his "unwilling" ass still up in the air?? Unless he were being held down, unconcious, drugged or SOMETHING, I just don't get where this is rape. Sorry. This just comes across to me more as bad judgment and regret. it's a bucks night, in AUSTRALIA for god's sake, the man would have been ROLLING DRUNK!!!!! Ok, here comes another "insensitive" moment from me. Did he get drunk of his own dumbass free will or was he intoxicated against it? RESPONSIBILITY!!! If I got so drunk I woke up with a sore bum (not to my liking), I might get the brilliant idea that I might want to watch my habits as I put myself in a situation I couldn't handle. I don't buy into the whole Drunk=Unwilling. Everyone knows what the effects of alcohol are prior to ingestion. [Edited 8/5/09 20:52pm] | |
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johnart said: ZombieKitten said: it's a bucks night, in AUSTRALIA for god's sake, the man would have been ROLLING DRUNK!!!!! Ok, here comes another "insensitive" moment from me. Did he get drunk of his own dumbass free will or was he intoxicated against it? RESPONSIBILITY!!! If I got so drunk I woke up with a sore bum (not to my liking), I might get the brilliant idea that I might want to watch my habits as I put myself in a situation I couldn't handle. I don't buy into the whole Drunk=Unwilling. Everyone knows what the effects of alcohol are prior to ingestion.
unless he was designated driver or "unaustralian" it would have been a free will situation  | |
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