Vendetta1 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: no advice given! I have no idea what to tell men. It never seems to matter You get the rap of being a woman hater. I really do hate them. j/k As a woman what advice would you give to men? | |
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heybaby said: Vendetta1 said: i think a lot of the women on the org don't want to see the advice I'd give to men about them.
You get the rap of being a woman hater. I really do hate them. j/k As a woman what advice would you give to men? I know I wanna see Ivy's advice to the men ... | |
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ZombieKitten said: Lammastide said: I'll have to try that on my daughter. it gets their attention better in front of their friends, failing that I do an impersonation of the talking cat that says "oh my dog, old long john etc" in the horrible moaning cat voice this deserves a video... A working class Hero is something to be ~ Lennon | |
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to women: if you want to stop being treated like a whore, stop acting like one. | |
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Mara said: dannyd5050 said: Is this to a man or woman? Genderless Genderless, genderqueer and intergender are catchall terms for gender identities other than man and woman. People who identify as genderqueer may think of themselves as being both male and female, as being neither male nor female, or as falling completely outside the gender binary. Some wish to have certain features of the opposite sex and not all characteristics; others want it all. Some genderqueer people see their identity as one of many possible genders other than male or female, while others see "genderqueer" as an umbrella term that encompasses all of those possible genders. Still others see "genderqueer" as a third gender to complement the traditional two, while others identify as genderless or agender. Genderless people are united by their rejection of the notion that there are only two genders. The term "genderqueer" can also be used as an adjective to refer to any people who transgress gender, regardless of their self-defined gender identity (see Alternate Meanings, below). How genderqueer people view gender as a whole and its relationship to themselves varies. Some genderless people view gender as a continuum between man and woman, with the two traditional genders at the two poles and their own genderless place as somewhere within the continuum. Others believe there are as many genders as there are people. Still others believe that binary gender is a social construct, and choose not to adhere to that construct. Some genderless people do fit into the stereotypical gender roles expected of their sex, but still identify outside of that and reject a two-pole gendered system. Some genderqueers experience their gender as fluid, varying from day to day or year to year. Some genderqueer people reject any gender system as a valid method of classifying individuals. Some genderqueers prefer to go by the conventional binary pronouns "he" or "she," while others prefer gender-neutral pronouns such as "ze" and "hir" or singular "they" instead of her/his. Some genderqueer people prefer to have people alternate between he and she (and/or gender neutral pronouns) in reference to themselves, and some prefer to use only their name and not use pronouns at all. And before someone makes it into an "org joke," please be sensitive about this. Thanks. source: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...enderqueer Thanks for the answer but... | |
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dannyd5050 said: Mara said: Genderless Genderless, genderqueer and intergender are catchall terms for gender identities other than man and woman. People who identify as genderqueer may think of themselves as being both male and female, as being neither male nor female, or as falling completely outside the gender binary. Some wish to have certain features of the opposite sex and not all characteristics; others want it all. Some genderqueer people see their identity as one of many possible genders other than male or female, while others see "genderqueer" as an umbrella term that encompasses all of those possible genders. Still others see "genderqueer" as a third gender to complement the traditional two, while others identify as genderless or agender. Genderless people are united by their rejection of the notion that there are only two genders. The term "genderqueer" can also be used as an adjective to refer to any people who transgress gender, regardless of their self-defined gender identity (see Alternate Meanings, below). How genderqueer people view gender as a whole and its relationship to themselves varies. Some genderless people view gender as a continuum between man and woman, with the two traditional genders at the two poles and their own genderless place as somewhere within the continuum. Others believe there are as many genders as there are people. Still others believe that binary gender is a social construct, and choose not to adhere to that construct. Some genderless people do fit into the stereotypical gender roles expected of their sex, but still identify outside of that and reject a two-pole gendered system. Some genderqueers experience their gender as fluid, varying from day to day or year to year. Some genderqueer people reject any gender system as a valid method of classifying individuals. Some genderqueers prefer to go by the conventional binary pronouns "he" or "she," while others prefer gender-neutral pronouns such as "ze" and "hir" or singular "they" instead of her/his. Some genderqueer people prefer to have people alternate between he and she (and/or gender neutral pronouns) in reference to themselves, and some prefer to use only their name and not use pronouns at all. And before someone makes it into an "org joke," please be sensitive about this. Thanks. source: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...enderqueer Thanks for the answer but... You asked. It's not cut-and-dry man or woman. I see gender JUST as performative as race or sexuality or faith. Just look at our man Prince. Camille, anyone? | |
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You know what's funny, I'm not even a big Prince fan and I'm channeling his/her energy naturally without even really listening to his albums.
The whole symbol thing, the Camille thing, it's weird how much conceptually we cross-pollenate in ideas. | |
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P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!! | |
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ThreadBare said: Stop whining about the "lack" of good men, instead of owning up to your love for/attraction to men you know in advance will dog you. (This isn't said to women who are deceived by men.)
Good men are around -- you just might not be into them. SCORE 10! Well look whom I found dipping their toe in the murky waters! :eyeroll: At least offer me a damn cup of coffee! | |
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Mach said: heybaby said: As a woman what advice would you give to men? I know I wanna see Ivy's advice to the men ... Fellas, take the time to get to know a woman well before you commit. Relationships fall apart because either of you don't communicate with the other and neither is willing to bend to meet the other half way and you think the person will change. If a woman disrespects you in front of people, let her go. If you do not trust a woman with everything in you, do not tell her your secrets. Be honest. Don't tell a woman you love her if you don't mean it. If you cannot look at a woman and see her as the mother of your children, don't fuck her without protection. Don't think of a woman as a slut because your dumb ass hit it without protection, too. Women can be manipulative. Stop putting up with the games some of them play. Tell her you are done playing. If she never calls you back, you are better off. | |
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And oh, don't date a single mom because you think she's easy because she has kids already. Leave her alone so the right man can come along. | |
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JuliePurplehead said: Tell us why you don't want to date us. If you don't tell us then we're just going to make up our own reasons why you don't want to. And then when you roll up to the party with some fat, ugly bitch then we have to come up with a new reason on why you didn't want to date us.
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RenHoek said: ZombieKitten said: it gets their attention better in front of their friends, failing that I do an impersonation of the talking cat that says "oh my dog, old long john etc" in the horrible moaning cat voice this deserves a video... it will scare you all though! | |
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Imago said: Just because we've sucked a cock recently does not mean that some of us won't tear that pussy up. Take a chance and approach us!
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For women: Learn to drive!
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mcmeekle said: For women: Learn to drive!
Just kidding! | |
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MEN: realize that all women are not the same, get to know the lady you're seeing for who she IS vs. who you expect her to be...
& PLEASE don't discuss cars/money/bullshit as a way to hook a woman unless you want to end up w/ a golddiggin' skank. Down the line you'll be complaining about how she used you when yo ass let her in by introducing material things in the first place. Then you get bitter & end up thinking all/most women are like that. Then you come @ the rest of us w/ a serious attitude! That approach is TACKY, desperate & lets everyone know that you base your worth on strictly external things, & that's a complete turn-off for those of us who could give a shit about what you have - some of us wanna know who you are | |
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CalhounSq said: MEN: realize that all women are not the same, get to know the lady you're seeing for who she IS vs. who you expect her to be...
oh yeah! that reminds me, "to all the girls I've loved before" - we want to be the ONE not ONE OF A CROWD | |
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Vendetta1 said: Mach said: I know I wanna see Ivy's advice to the men ... Fellas, take the time to get to know a woman well before you commit. Relationships fall apart because either of you don't communicate with the other and neither is willing to bend to meet the other half way and you think the person will change. If a woman disrespects you in front of people, let her go. If you do not trust a woman with everything in you, do not tell her your secrets. Be honest. Don't tell a woman you love her if you don't mean it. If you cannot look at a woman and see her as the mother of your children, don't fuck her without protection. Don't think of a woman as a slut because your dumb ass hit it without protection, too. Women can be manipulative. Stop putting up with the games some of them play. Tell her you are done playing. If she never calls you back, you are better off. Very well said. | |
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I have no advice....may u live thru it | |
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Like it says in my sig....
Reality checks are hard to cash! | |
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@ calhoun. So true | |
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Byron said: heartbeatocean said: so how exactly do we not let men get away with shit? break up with them, walk out on them, make them prove themselves, make them beg? what? All of those work, yes lol (well, except the begging part, that's just wanting humiliation lol). Basically, though, it's knowing how to draw a line and letting the guy know what's acceptable in a relationship and what is not. This isn't in an effort to change him, mind you... I don't know. It's a tricky line. I think the best and most difficult answer is to hook up with someone who treats you well in the first place, has that natural inclination, who listens to your complaints, and easily apologizes and makes up for mistakes. Otherwise, it's a battle. | |
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Byron said: ZombieKitten said: and 2 doing it right is a rarity isn't it? It's rarer, definitely...but it's not impossible. I think that having two who are sincerely trying to do it right is all that's needed ...any stumbles can be overcome in that scenario. Not necessarily. In my last relationship, we sincerely tried to work out our differences, went to couples therapy, were open-minded etc. We just weren't the right match. At least from my point of view. | |
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heartbeatocean said: Byron said: It's rarer, definitely...but it's not impossible. I think that having two who are sincerely trying to do it right is all that's needed ...any stumbles can be overcome in that scenario. Not necessarily. In my last relationship, we sincerely tried to work out our differences, went to couples therapy, were open-minded etc. We just weren't the right match. At least from my point of view. I agree. I did couples therapy, too. But if it's not to be, it's not to be. Hey, Strings Lady! | |
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mcmeekle said: For women: Learn to drive!
For men, let women have the wheel once in a while. It'd be good for you to give up control once in a while and she won't start feeling like a hostage. | |
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ThreadBare said: heartbeatocean said: Not necessarily. In my last relationship, we sincerely tried to work out our differences, went to couples therapy, were open-minded etc. We just weren't the right match. At least from my point of view. I agree. I did couples therapy, too. But if it's not to be, it's not to be. Hey, Strings Lady! Hello there! Exactly. My ex almost pushed me into therapy. I was willing to go. But I began to feel he thought therapy could save the relationship. If we just had enough of it, then we could make it work. This applied to me too. He kept suggesting I get therapy. Then maybe I would behave the way he wanted me to? Here's my real advice to men: No matter how enamoured you are of a woman, don't try to force it. There are only so many things you can do to make a relationship work. In the end, she has to choose to be with you and you have to give her space to make this choice and EXPRESS it to you. And if she doesn't come forward and do that, then let it go. Otherwise, you're dealing with a nest of worms, causing yourself endless heartache and stress, and smothering (and subtley disrespecting?) the object of your affection. Give her credit for knowing her own mind! And respect yourself more! | |
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Oh yeah! stop dealing with women who withhold sex as some type of punishment.
The more I think about it, I think some men enjoy the drama women put them through. | |
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heybaby said: Vendetta1 said: Here goes:
Fellas, take the time to get to know a woman well before you commit. Relationships fall apart because either of you don't communicate with the other and neither is willing to bend to meet the other half way and you think the person will change. If a woman disrespects you in front of people, let her go. If you do not trust a woman with everything in you, do not tell her your secrets. Be honest. Don't tell a woman you love her if you don't mean it. If you cannot look at a woman and see her as the mother of your children, don't fuck her without protection. Don't think of a woman as a slut because your dumb ass hit it without protection, too. Women can be manipulative. Stop putting up with the games some of them play. Tell her you are done playing. If she never calls you back, you are better off. Very well said. Indeed !! | |
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Byron said: My advice to women when it comes to men:
- Don't let men keep getting away with shit. In reality, we like feeling as if we've earned your love, that there's something about us that sets us apart in your mind and heart and is the reason you want us to have your affection, time and emotions. Once we start realizing that it doesn't matter WHAT we do, that we'll have your heart and body no matter what stupid things we keep doing, that all goes out the window. - Don't belittle us. You will get absolutely nowhere doing that. - Don't compare us to past boyfriends or your male friends lol. You're not going to convince us we're wrong by telling us that "my last boyfriend never got upset if..."...Nobody cares about your last boyfriend. And your male friends will always be better behaved than the guy you're involved with lol...they're waiting in the wings and don't want to lose their place in line. - Flatter us. ...Not obsessively, but every so often. Keeps us all ...However, any man who wants constant flattery, run the hell away from, pronto lol These are all very good. | |
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