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PrintableCarrieMpls said: Byron said: My advice to women when it comes to men:
- Don't let men keep getting away with shit. In reality, we like feeling as if we've earned your love, that there's something about us that sets us apart in your mind and heart and is the reason you want us to have your affection, time and emotions. Once we start realizing that it doesn't matter WHAT we do, that we'll have your heart and body no matter what stupid things we keep doing, that all goes out the window. Why would you try shit to begin with? I don't get this at all. When I was young I put up with all kinds of crap. And it was utterly heart breaking to have someone tell you they love you and then do something so utterly devoid of love the next day. I don't put up with crap anymore. Which is why I don't even bother dating. 
My advice to men is treat the woman you love the way the way you want your mother, sister and daughter to be treated. what I've learned from that movie, and from the book it was based on, if he is into you, he WILL. The rest are trying to get away with all sorts of stuff just to get laid, and I betcha they feel like disgusting yukky whores doing it, but are just better at denial than we are   | |
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ZombieKitten said: CarrieMpls said: Why would you try shit to begin with? I don't get this at all. When I was young I put up with all kinds of crap. And it was utterly heart breaking to have someone tell you they love you and then do something so utterly devoid of love the next day. I don't put up with crap anymore. Which is why I don't even bother dating.
My advice to men is treat the woman you love the way the way you want your mother, sister and daughter to be treated. what I've learned from that movie, and from the book it was based on, if he is into you, he WILL. The rest are trying to get away with all sorts of stuff just to get laid, and I betcha they feel like disgusting yukky whores doing it, but are just better at denial than we are That's true... but while I appreciate the fact that a woman shouldn't stay with a man who treats her any less than that, why would a man do that to bgein with? Why would anyone? It's horrible, really. |
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CarrieMpls said: ZombieKitten said: what I've learned from that movie, and from the book it was based on, if he is into you, he WILL. The rest are trying to get away with all sorts of stuff just to get laid, and I betcha they feel like disgusting yukky whores doing it, but are just better at denial than we are That's true... but while I appreciate the fact that a woman shouldn't stay with a man who treats her any less than that, why would a man do that to bgein with? Why would anyone? It's horrible, really. ick yes, I don't know. I hate to think  | |
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heartbeatocean said: Byron said: It's true so how exactly do we not let men get away with shit? break up with them, walk out on them, make them prove themselves, make them beg? what? All of those work, yes lol (well, except the begging part, that's just wanting humiliation lol).
Basically, though, it's knowing how to draw a line and letting the guy know what's acceptable in a relationship and what is not. This isn't in an effort to change him, mind you... | |
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Byron said: heartbeatocean said: so how exactly do we not let men get away with shit? break up with them, walk out on them, make them prove themselves, make them beg? what? All of those work, yes lol (well, except the begging part, that's just wanting humiliation lol).
Basically, though, it's knowing how to draw a line and letting the guy know what's acceptable in a relationship and what is not. This isn't in an effort to change him, mind you... we have to whip you, isn't it? | |
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CarrieMpls said: Byron said: My advice to women when it comes to men:
- Don't let men keep getting away with shit. In reality, we like feeling as if we've earned your love, that there's something about us that sets us apart in your mind and heart and is the reason you want us to have your affection, time and emotions. Once we start realizing that it doesn't matter WHAT we do, that we'll have your heart and body no matter what stupid things we keep doing, that all goes out the window. Why would you try shit to begin with? I don't get this at all. Because everyone "tries shit"...every single person on this site has fucked up more times than they can possibly remember in their lives...we're human. It happens. My advice, though, was in letting women know how continually "forgiving" a guy when he keeps crossing the line you told yourself you'd never let get crossed actually effects how that guys sees both you and himself, as well as how he sees the relationship. "Why" a guy might "try shit" is pretty much irrelevant in the context of this thread...the advice I was giving the opposite sex about my gender was what to do when/if he DOES try shit lol. | |
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ZombieKitten said: Byron said: All of those work, yes lol (well, except the begging part, that's just wanting humiliation lol).
Basically, though, it's knowing how to draw a line and letting the guy know what's acceptable in a relationship and what is not. This isn't in an effort to change him, mind you... we have to whip you, isn't it? ...depends on what you mean by "whip"  | |
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ZombieKitten said: CarrieMpls said: Why would you try shit to begin with? I don't get this at all. When I was young I put up with all kinds of crap. And it was utterly heart breaking to have someone tell you they love you and then do something so utterly devoid of love the next day. I don't put up with crap anymore. Which is why I don't even bother dating.
My advice to men is treat the woman you love the way the way you want your mother, sister and daughter to be treated. what I've learned from that movie, and from the book it was based on, if he is into you, he WILL. The rest are trying to get away with all sorts of stuff just to get laid, and I betcha they feel like disgusting yukky whores doing it, but are just better at denial than we are I just chalk it up to emotional immaturity, on the part of both genders. It's never one person doing everything right and the other person doing everything wrong...takes two to tango, as they say. | |
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Byron said: ZombieKitten said: what I've learned from that movie, and from the book it was based on, if he is into you, he WILL. The rest are trying to get away with all sorts of stuff just to get laid, and I betcha they feel like disgusting yukky whores doing it, but are just better at denial than we are I just chalk it up to emotional immaturity, on the part of both genders. It's never one person doing everything right and the other person doing everything wrong...takes two to tango, as they say. and 2 doing it right is a rarity isn't it?  | |
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CarrieMpls said: ZombieKitten said: what I've learned from that movie, and from the book it was based on, if he is into you, he WILL. The rest are trying to get away with all sorts of stuff just to get laid, and I betcha they feel like disgusting yukky whores doing it, but are just better at denial than we are That's true... but while I appreciate the fact that a woman shouldn't stay with a man who treats her any less than that, why would a man do that to bgein with? Why would anyone? It's horrible, really. Part of the problem is a large percentage of men have a damaged empathy gene we just fail to see how our actions impact on women we fail to see things from their perspective 
whats the word i am looking for.....selfish thats it  What you don't remember never happened | |
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endymion said: CarrieMpls said: That's true... but while I appreciate the fact that a woman shouldn't stay with a man who treats her any less than that, why would a man do that to bgein with? Why would anyone? It's horrible, really. Part of the problem is a large percentage of men have a damaged empathy gene we just fail to see how our actions impact on women we fail to see things from their perspective
whats the word i am looking for.....selfish thats it you CAN do it!
you aren't THAT damaged  | |
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ZombieKitten said: Byron said: I just chalk it up to emotional immaturity, on the part of both genders. It's never one person doing everything right and the other person doing everything wrong...takes two to tango, as they say. and 2 doing it right is a rarity isn't it? It's rarer, definitely...but it's not impossible. I think that having two who are sincerely trying to do it right is all that's needed ...any stumbles can be overcome in that scenario. | |
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endymion said: CarrieMpls said: That's true... but while I appreciate the fact that a woman shouldn't stay with a man who treats her any less than that, why would a man do that to bgein with? Why would anyone? It's horrible, really. Part of the problem is a large percentage of men have a damaged empathy gene we just fail to see how our actions impact on women we fail to see things from their perspective
whats the word i am looking for.....selfish thats it Nah, women try shit, too lol ... | |
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Byron said: ZombieKitten said: and 2 doing it right is a rarity isn't it? It's rarer, definitely...but it's not impossible. I think that having two who are sincerely trying to do it right is all that's needed ...any stumbles can be overcome in that scenario. | |
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Stop whining about the "lack" of good men, instead of owning up to your love for/attraction to men you know in advance will dog you. (This isn't said to women who are deceived by men.)
Good men are around -- you just might not be into them. | |
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ThreadBare said: Stop whining about the "lack" of good men, instead of owning up to your love for/attraction to men you know in advance will dog you. (This isn't said to women who are deceived by men.)
Good men are around -- you just might not be into them. While that is true, that's not exactly advice to women about men lol...that's advice to women about themselves (I should have started that thread instead, would have had 19 pages of posts by now lol ) | |
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Byron said: ThreadBare said: Stop whining about the "lack" of good men, instead of owning up to your love for/attraction to men you know in advance will dog you. (This isn't said to women who are deceived by men.)
Good men are around -- you just might not be into them. While that is true, that's not exactly advice to women about men lol...that's advice to women about themselves (I should have started that thread instead, would have had 19 pages of posts by now lol )(Shhhh, Byron!!! I got this!!!!! I know what I'm doing!!!! You're blowing my cover!!!!  )
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ThreadBare said: Byron said: While that is true, that's not exactly advice to women about men lol...that's advice to women about themselves (I should have started that thread instead, would have had 19 pages of posts by now lol )(Shhhh, Byron!!! I got this!!!!! I know what I'm doing!!!! You're blowing my cover!!!! )
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ThreadBare said: Byron said: While that is true, that's not exactly advice to women about men lol...that's advice to women about themselves (I should have started that thread instead, would have had 19 pages of posts by now lol )(Shhhh, Byron!!! I got this!!!!! I know what I'm doing!!!! You're blowing my cover!!!! )
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men - just tell the truth.
we know when yall asses is lyin' | |
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DanceWme said: men - just tell the truth.
we know when yall asses is lyin' I'm gonna have to change the title of this thread lol  | |
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Byron said: DanceWme said: men - just tell the truth.
we know when yall asses is lyin' I'm gonna have to change the title of this thread lol my bad | |
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ZombieKitten said: endymion said: Part of the problem is a large percentage of men have a damaged empathy gene we just fail to see how our actions impact on women we fail to see things from their perspective
whats the word i am looking for.....selfish thats it you CAN do it!
you aren't THAT damaged Can't be arsed  What you don't remember never happened | |
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endymion said: ZombieKitten said: you CAN do it!
you aren't THAT damaged Can't be arsed | |
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Women...what piece of advice would you give men concerning women that you feel they should know?
Dear Men ~ Do not waste time with women that are trying to change you into their best chatty cathy girlfriend ... RUN AWAY !! There are women that love Men for being Men and do not want their man to be their girlfirends
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Mach said: Women...what piece of advice would you give men concerning women that you feel they should know?
Dear Men ~ Do not waste time with women that are trying to change you into their best chatty cathy girlfriend ... RUN AWAY !! There are women that love Men for being Men and do not want their man to be their girlfirends
ohhh~! nice new avvie! | |
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ZombieKitten said: Mach said: Women...what piece of advice would you give men concerning women that you feel they should know?
Dear Men ~ Do not waste time with women that are trying to change you into their best chatty cathy girlfriend ... RUN AWAY !! There are women that love Men for being Men and do not want their man to be their girlfirends
ohhh~! nice new avvie!  Thanx - you are lookin HOT as usual in yours  | |
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Mach said: ZombieKitten said: ohhh~! nice new avvie! Thanx - you are lookin HOT as usual in yours | |
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Byron said: CarrieMpls said: Why would you try shit to begin with? I don't get this at all. Because everyone "tries shit"...every single person on this site has fucked up more times than they can possibly remember in their lives...we're human. It happens. Are you speaking to teenagers and young adults? If grown people are still "trying shit" that's a major character flaw. Adults should know better. |
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CarrieMpls said: Byron said: Because everyone "tries shit"...every single person on this site has fucked up more times than they can possibly remember in their lives...we're human. It happens. Are you speaking to teenagers and young adults? If grown people are still "trying shit" that's a major character flaw. Adults should know better. Trust that a lot of them still do it. Sad but true. My advice to men is simple and it can apply to anyone: the age old treat a person as you'd want to be treated. simple. | |
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