Byron said:

Hetero women: Don't take this as a command, but as friendly advice: It's OK to shut up sometime. I mean, communication is paramount, but without punctuating it with occasional quiet, y'all begin to sound like Charlie Brown's teacher to whomever you're (endlessly) communicating.

Homo men: You may be beautiful and young now, but you're not as beautiful and young as you were just yesterday. When you sashay around acting like men 5 or 10 years older than you are elderly, don't be shocked that equally glib men 5 or 10 years younger than you see you the same way... and will see you all the more as such in an additional 5 or 10 years.

...And you'll deserve it.

Lammastide said:

some mornings I say "bla bla bla bla" to my kids instead of real words to save myself the effort

ZombieKitten said:

Do they listen in either case?

Lammastide said:

it certainly gets their attention!

ZombieKitten said:

I'll have to try that on my daughter.

Lammastide said:

it gets their attention better in front of their friends, failing that I do an impersonation of the talking cat that says "oh my dog, old long john etc" in the horrible moaning cat voice

ZombieKitten said:

Lammastide said:

Man, if I was ever quizzed after some of those listening sessions...

evenstar3 said:

It's true

violator said:

I may be the only man alive who actually enjoys listening to a woman talk, even if it's a lot lol...Well, I take that back. I enjoy it if she's 1) my lover, 2) an extremely close friend (not an aquaintance), or 3) my daughter. My mom can ramble lol...I'll listen but what I enjoy is knowing that she's enjoying having me to talk to. My sister and I can talk for hours and never tire, though...so can my niece and I.

Byron said:

so how exactly do we not let men get away with shit? break up with them, walk out on them, make them prove themselves, make them beg? what?

men: be kind and don't think the universe revolves around you

Byron said:

that is really really nice

Byron said:

It's so nice when a man enjoys listening to me .

Serious said:

the one I live with, he waits until he THINKS I've finished, and without a word leaves the room. Very disconcerting!

ZombieKitten said:

My ex-bf was listening to me because he knew he had to and not because he wanted to most of the time .

Serious said:

mine only listens to what he thinks is important, so we don't actually have free-flowing conversations as such, it's usually a 5 minute episode of information exchange - essential things that need to be told, like about the kids, bills, whose mother called etc. Many times I've started to say something and he holds up his hands and say "Shhh! I'm thinking!"

ZombieKitten said:

Yeah thinking . Men . Talking is so much more than information exchange!
I often told my bf something and some minutes later he did not even remember we had a conversation let alone what I had told him . I bought him a T-shirt saying "3 second memory" and he wore it with pride .

Serious said:

I stuck a cut out gold-fish on the master's head (for the same reason ) and took a photo of him once. I don't think he knows why I did it

ZombieKitten said:

!

That T-Shirt shows a gold fish (or 3 of them, don't remember) too

violator said:

I don't like talking.

Serious said:

ZombieKitten said:

We are soulmates aren't we

Serious said:

ZombieKitten said:

ZombieKitten said:

Didnt you make a thread about this?

Were you broken up with like this in the past?

just being nosey

endymion said:

to be honest, no.

I've been broken up with properly about 3 times. I appreciate it.

But I did see that movie and read that book "he's just not that into you" and I can see guys trying to help the girl save face, by just kind of making himself scarce. It made me cringe.

Treat us as meaningful pursuits (a handkerchief), rather than disposable pleasures (a tissue)...

Many men know that already.

Byron said:

Why would you try shit to begin with?

I don't get this at all.

When I was young I put up with all kinds of crap. And it was utterly heart breaking to have someone tell you they love you and then do something so utterly devoid of love the next day. I don't put up with crap anymore. Which is why I don't even bother dating.

My advice to men is treat the woman you love, or even the woman you're just dating, the way the way you want your mother, sister and daughter to be treated.