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PrintableSCNDLS said: sammij said: that's the general opinion yeah but i think he knew all about those rumours of exploitation i'm sure he used Warhol to his own benefit too to some degree.. the art world is never fair   Oh no doubt. Basquiat wouldn't have had access to the wealthy patrons and art world connections if it weren't for Warhol. But Warhol was a notorious user of other people's talents. Steve Kaufman, an artist whom I'm collecting, was Warhol's assistant at the time of his death and was doing most of the work on Warhol's pieces before he died and finished all of his commissioned works at the time of his death. Steve had a stroke a few weeks ago coincidentally.no surprise there, i think there was a scene in BASQUIAT where warhol had people hired to piss on his piss paintings (really? he couldn't do it himself? hahaha then again it IS warhol  )
he definitely was a fan of having others create art for him
i don't think most of it was ill willed though - if he lived longer it probably would've started to make sense but he didn't , and it don't make no sense anyway. 
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sammij said: SCNDLS said: Oh no doubt. Basquiat wouldn't have had access to the wealthy patrons and art world connections if it weren't for Warhol. But Warhol was a notorious user of other people's talents. Steve Kaufman, an artist whom I'm collecting, was Warhol's assistant at the time of his death and was doing most of the work on Warhol's pieces before he died and finished all of his commissioned works at the time of his death. Steve had a stroke a few weeks ago coincidentally.no surprise there, i think there was a scene in BASQUIAT where warhol had people hired to piss on his piss paintings (really? he couldn't do it himself? hahaha then again it IS warhol )
he definitely was a fan of having others create art for him
i don't think most of it was ill willed though - if he lived longer it probably would've started to make sense but he didn't , and it don't make no sense anyway.
basquiat and i are planning to wed next lifetime Yeah, Warhol was definitely spayshul. Gotta love that nut though. My favorite gallery just had one of his Mammy pieces on auction, which I am committed to buying before I die. I sho was trynta figure out where I could get $80 grand to buy that joint. Alas, I decided a roof over my head was kinda important. 
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SCNDLS said: sammij said: no surprise there, i think there was a scene in BASQUIAT where warhol had people hired to piss on his piss paintings (really? he couldn't do it himself? hahaha then again it IS warhol )
he definitely was a fan of having others create art for him
i don't think most of it was ill willed though - if he lived longer it probably would've started to make sense but he didn't , and it don't make no sense anyway.
basquiat and i are planning to wed next lifetime Yeah, Warhol was definitely spayshul. Gotta love that nut though. My favorite gallery just had one of his Mammy pieces on auction, which I am committed to buying before I die. I sho was trynta figure out where I could get $80 grand to buy that joint. Alas, I decided a roof over my head was kinda important.
Did you see the movie Factory Girl? 80 grand!  not even for warhol.
i could build a mega studio for that kinda green! 
no i haven't seen that movie as yet! 
but i've been told countless times to see it, is it any good, or is it just something all warhol fans should see? [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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sammij said: SCNDLS said: Yeah, Warhol was definitely spayshul. Gotta love that nut though. My favorite gallery just had one of his Mammy pieces on auction, which I am committed to buying before I die. I sho was trynta figure out where I could get $80 grand to buy that joint. Alas, I decided a roof over my head was kinda important.
Did you see the movie Factory Girl? 80 grand! not even for warhol.
i could build a mega studio for that kinda green!
no i haven't seen that movie as yet!
but i've been told countless times to see it, is it any good, or is it just something all warhol fans should see? Yeah, I know.  A friend of mine lived in NYC in the early 80s and knew Warhol. Dude was basically homeless and took his last $1000 to buy one of Warhol's "$" The shit's worth $100,000 now. 
That Mammy prolly went for around $60k but yeah it's a lot. I fully intend to get one someday and put it in storage somewhere. If I hold onto it for 30 years it will easily be worth 10 times as much if not more. Nowadays, art is a better investment than the stock market. That's how I spend most of my discretionary dollars when I have it. Loves me some art. 
Factory Girl is actually a good lil movie. I had no idea Sienna Miller could really act. Guy Pearce was great as Warhol and Hayden Christenssen was Bob Dylan. Interesting story. | |
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thekidsgirl said: Serious said: It's called Basquiat . David Bowie plays Andy Warhol.ooh! I'll look for it Jeffrey Wright was genius in this movie as Basquiat.  MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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I'm really glad everybody's contributing. So much to respond to I don't know where to start. I'm impressed firstly at all the knowledge orgers have of Basquiat and with all the knowledge being shared.
It's good to see that his life is remembered by a lot of people. And I wish more people would remember him and his legacy. I think he's awesome. And I really admire him. | |
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This thread has piqued my interest. I am going to find that movie now... | |
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Shawnt26 said: This thread has piqued my interest. I am going to find that movie now...
The cast alone is crazy. It's been awhile since I've seen it so I can't remember if Madonna was IN the movie or if they showed Basquiat's romance with her.  | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: thekidsgirl said: ooh! I'll look for it Jeffrey Wright was genius in this movie as Basquiat. i remember watching this movie with this girl i was dating back in the 90's, she was in her 30's i was in my 20's and she kept saying i was just like him in regards to looks, mannerisms and presence. i was kind of offended by that. | |
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Shawnt26 said: This thread has piqued my interest. I am going to find that movie now...
look for both of them
Wright does such an amazing job, he's nearly spot on, it's crazy. [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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SCNDLS said: Shawnt26 said: This thread has piqued my interest. I am going to find that movie now...
The cast alone is crazy. It's been awhile since I've seen it so I can't remember if Madonna was IN the movie or if they showed Basquiat's romance with her. It was Courtney Love's character I believe, Big Pink i think was the name he gave her? [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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sammij said: SCNDLS said: The cast alone is crazy. It's been awhile since I've seen it so I can't remember if Madonna was IN the movie or if they showed Basquiat's romance with her. It was Courtney Love's character I believe, Big Pink i think was the name he gave her? Oh so she was supposed to REPRESENT Madge??? Shit, I bet Madonna wouldn't have minded playing herself. | |
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SCNDLS said: sammij said: It was Courtney Love's character I believe, Big Pink i think was the name he gave her? Oh so she was supposed to REPRESENT Madge??? Shit, I bet Madonna wouldn't have minded playing herself. i know (strange choice of  actress to be honest )
at least that's what was discussed in class, i can't actually say that's a fact.. [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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Mara said: 
[Edited 5/1/09 3:12am] I've always loved this picture... | |
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