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Thread started 04/30/09 6:53am

Graycap23

Quite frankly, ESPN's Stephen A. Smith will be moving on

Yea or nay?


Stephen A. Smith now wants to talk to you about everything.
And that, he says, is why his last scheduled appearance on ESPN will be Thursday morning's First Take and his last day will be Friday: "I don't want to be in a situation where I'm limited."

Not that he's knocking ESPN. Smith says it made him offers in recent months "for an additional year or two" which he says he turned down before ESPN said simply that it was not renewing his contract. He says he won't look for new work until Friday, when he hopes he'll face "a plethora of opportunities."

He certainly got them at ESPN, where he started in 2003 and quickly popped up on various shows. The turning point was supposed to be his own signature Quite Frankly ESPN2 talk show, which debuted in 2005 with monstrous hype even by ESPN's standards.

At the time, Smith said he'd be "a cross between Bill O'Reilly and Larry King." (Think about that for a second. On second thought, don't.)


Al Jaffe, who oversees ESPN's on-air hiring and had been a judge alongside Smith on ESPN's Dream Job game show, back then said Smith was "a unique talent" with "huge upside." Sports Illustrated, before the show premiered, suggested Smith was already widely recognized as "the most despised sports personality on the air today … and the final triumph of bluster and confidence over content."

Turned out to be much ado about a show that produced next-to-nothing ratings. Now, Smith says the biggest problem was the show being shifted from its original 6:30 p.m. ET time slot to sometime around 11 p.m. ET — sometime, that is, after the live games leading into his show ended. Says Smith, of that show, which lasted 17 months: "I believe to this day if my show had a definitive time slot, it would have been more successful."

Smith's radio show on ESPN's New York affiliate came and went and he went back to popping up on various ESPN shows. But he kept getting noticed: An online video using a sock puppet meant to imitate Smith working the NBA draft — "You must talk to me!" it insisted — became an Internet hit.

And all that, he hopes, will lead to future on-air work he would like to include, but not solely focus on, sports.

Could happen. Plenty of TV sports types have gone on to broaden their on-air horizons. Smith now sees them as his role models. Like Robin Roberts — "I adore her" — and Bryant Gumbel — "I idolize him." He admires Keith Olbermann, another crossover case who has a largely political talk show on MSNBC while also working NBC's NFL studio and writing columns for mlb.com. But he says his ESPN exit is nothing like Olbermann's fiery 1997 departure and is instead a matter of wanting to branch out.

With ESPN, Smith was allowed to go on non-sports talk shows, but saw the limits to someone on ESPN dragging a famous sports brand into social or political debates: "I don't blame ESPN. It's a model that's worked for them to near-perfection. … They're the most successful sports conglomerate in American history."

Smith, when he began Quite Frankly, said "it's not that I always agree with black folks, but it's my responsibility to give their take." That made him really stand out, since the TV sports genre is generally squeamish about touching on racial issues and would usually prefer positioning sports as a color-blind meritocracy. And the TV sports genre is also squeamish about its analysts supposedly representing ethnic groups.

The New York Post this week opined Smith is "a self-promoting, race-based gasbag." But Smith, asked if he now sees himself primarily as a sort of spokesman, is low-key: "I'm not this voice, or that voice. But if people want to hear a perspective from the African American community that otherwise wouldn't be heard, I'd be honored to deliver that message."

He's glad that "finally people notice I don't scream nearly as much as I used to." (That resulted from his mother Janet forcefully asking him to "explain why you have to be so loud.") But he says silence isn't an option: "My aspiration is to have my own show again. I can't express to you how hungry I am for that opportunity."
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Reply #1 posted 04/30/09 6:57am

RodeoSchro

I want to like him - he's articulate and I like the way he expresses himself (save for the yelling). I like his self-confidence.

It's just that what comes out of his mouth is usually pretty dumb or off-putting. And I'm not talking about the racial perspective. I think the guy is more interested in being controversial than accurate with respect to sports issues.

I won't miss him.
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Reply #2 posted 04/30/09 7:08am

Graycap23

RodeoSchro said:

I want to like him - he's articulate and I like the way he expresses himself (save for the yelling). I like his self-confidence.

It's just that what comes out of his mouth is usually pretty dumb or off-putting. And I'm not talking about the racial perspective. I think the guy is more interested in being controversial than accurate with respect to sports issues.

I won't miss him.

I can't disagree with u. On top of that, he is wrong more than he is right.
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Reply #3 posted 04/30/09 9:10am

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RodeoSchro said:

I want to like him - he's articulate and I like the way he expresses himself (save for the yelling). I like his self-confidence.

It's just that what comes out of his mouth is usually pretty dumb or off-putting. And I'm not talking about the racial perspective. I think the guy is more interested in being controversial than accurate with respect to sports issues.

I won't miss him.


Damn, dawg...you went there - I always wonder why the word "articulate" has to be synonymous when speaking about intelligent Blacks, as if it's a "surprise". Because it's hardle ever used when talking about intelligent Whites.
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Reply #4 posted 04/30/09 9:12am

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I love the dude. He doesn't back down nor does he allowed to be controlled. That's MAN right there. And I trip off people that would complain about him yelling, yet those same people never have a single problem with Dick Vitale's loud ass. There are some people who are just uncomfortable or downright fearful of a Black man raising his voice.
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Reply #5 posted 04/30/09 9:17am

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He's annoying!
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Reply #6 posted 04/30/09 10:17am

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This ain't news until he moves to outer space. hmph!
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Reply #7 posted 04/30/09 10:45am

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SCNDLS said:

This ain't news until he moves to outer space. hmph!

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Reply #8 posted 04/30/09 10:49am

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MuthaFunka said:

I love the dude. He doesn't back down nor does he allowed to be controlled. That's MAN right there. And I trip off people that would complain about him yelling, yet those same people never have a single problem with Dick Vitale's loud ass. There are some people who are just uncomfortable or downright fearful of a Black man raising his voice.

He's an obnoxious boob IMO. There's a way to making your point without talking over people which he does constantly. I hate to watch that shit. hmph!
[Edited 4/30/09 10:50am]
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Reply #9 posted 04/30/09 10:55am

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SCNDLS said:

MuthaFunka said:

I love the dude. He doesn't back down nor does he allowed to be controlled. That's MAN right there. And I trip off people that would complain about him yelling, yet those same people never have a single problem with Dick Vitale's loud ass. There are some people who are just uncomfortable or downright fearful of a Black man raising his voice.

He's an obnoxious boob IMO. There's a way to making your point without talking over people which he does constantly. I hate to watch that shit. hmph!
[Edited 4/30/09 10:50am]

Especially when u are WRONG.....as he often is.
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Reply #10 posted 04/30/09 10:58am

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Graycap23 said:

At the time, Smith said he'd be "a cross between Bill O'Reilly and Larry King." (Think about that for a second. On second thought, don't.)


That's ALL we need.
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Reply #11 posted 04/30/09 10:58am

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Graycap23 said:

SCNDLS said:


He's an obnoxious boob IMO. There's a way to making your point without talking over people which he does constantly. I hate to watch that shit. hmph!
[Edited 4/30/09 10:50am]

Especially when u are WRONG.....as he often is.

Yeah, I forgot that lil tidbit. lol
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Reply #12 posted 04/30/09 10:58am

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uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:

At the time, Smith said he'd be "a cross between Bill O'Reilly and Larry King." (Think about that for a second. On second thought, don't.)


That's ALL we need.

lol.
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Reply #13 posted 04/30/09 11:31am

RodeoSchro

MuthaFunka said:

RodeoSchro said:

I want to like him - he's articulate and I like the way he expresses himself (save for the yelling). I like his self-confidence.

It's just that what comes out of his mouth is usually pretty dumb or off-putting. And I'm not talking about the racial perspective. I think the guy is more interested in being controversial than accurate with respect to sports issues.

I won't miss him.


Damn, dawg...you went there - I always wonder why the word "articulate" has to be synonymous when speaking about intelligent Blacks, as if it's a "surprise". Because it's hardle ever used when talking about intelligent Whites.


I never knew I was going anywhere. I thought "articulate" was a good complimentary word to use. You can use it on me any time.

The overall point I was making was that he is a great speaker who says dumb things. I was just trying to say that in a nice way.
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Reply #14 posted 04/30/09 11:39am

Graycap23

SCNDLS said:

Graycap23 said:


Especially when u are WRONG.....as he often is.

Yeah, I forgot that lil tidbit. lol

He is what I call.....a ROUND head.
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Reply #15 posted 04/30/09 11:43am

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MuthaFunka said:

I love the dude. He doesn't back down nor does he allowed to be controlled. That's MAN right there. And I trip off people that would complain about him yelling, yet those same people never have a single problem with Dick Vitale's loud ass. There are some people who are just uncomfortable or downright fearful of a Black man raising his voice.


Dick Vitale is extremely annoying...at least to me he is!!! IMHO he is all show and no real substance. He's loud and that's about it.
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Reply #16 posted 04/30/09 11:53am

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SCNDLS said:

MuthaFunka said:

I love the dude. He doesn't back down nor does he allowed to be controlled. That's MAN right there. And I trip off people that would complain about him yelling, yet those same people never have a single problem with Dick Vitale's loud ass. There are some people who are just uncomfortable or downright fearful of a Black man raising his voice.

He's an obnoxious boob IMO. There's a way to making your point without talking over people which he does constantly. I hate to watch that shit. hmph!
[Edited 4/30/09 10:50am]


I happen to like the strong Black man approach. cool
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Reply #17 posted 04/30/09 11:54am

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RodeoSchro said:

MuthaFunka said:



Damn, dawg...you went there - I always wonder why the word "articulate" has to be synonymous when speaking about intelligent Blacks, as if it's a "surprise". Because it's hardle ever used when talking about intelligent Whites.


I never knew I was going anywhere. I thought "articulate" was a good complimentary word to use. You can use it on me any time.

The overall point I was making was that he is a great speaker who says dumb things. I was just trying to say that in a nice way.


Naw, I know you didn't mean any harm by it but I hate to see that word used when describing a Black man, as if most Blacks aren't articulate.
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Reply #18 posted 04/30/09 11:54am

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Sowhat said:

MuthaFunka said:

I love the dude. He doesn't back down nor does he allowed to be controlled. That's MAN right there. And I trip off people that would complain about him yelling, yet those same people never have a single problem with Dick Vitale's loud ass. There are some people who are just uncomfortable or downright fearful of a Black man raising his voice.


Dick Vitale is extremely annoying...at least to me he is!!! IMHO he is all show and no real substance. He's loud and that's about it.


Vitale is off the charts with his lol
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Reply #19 posted 04/30/09 11:54am

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MuthaFunka said:

SCNDLS said:


He's an obnoxious boob IMO. There's a way to making your point without talking over people which he does constantly. I hate to watch that shit. hmph!
[Edited 4/30/09 10:50am]


I happen to like the strong Black man approach. cool

Only when the mofo knows his subject.
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Reply #20 posted 04/30/09 11:56am

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Graycap23 said:

MuthaFunka said:



I happen to like the strong Black man approach. cool

Only when the mofo knows his subject.


SAS knows his shit, make no mistake about it. For some, he's a tough pill to swallow.
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Reply #21 posted 04/30/09 11:57am

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MuthaFunka said:

SCNDLS said:


He's an obnoxious boob IMO. There's a way to making your point without talking over people which he does constantly. I hate to watch that shit. hmph!
[Edited 4/30/09 10:50am]


I happen to like the strong Black man approach. cool

I know lots of strong black men that communicate effectively without being obnoxious and rude. Strong black man and dumb asshole are not synonymous to me. lol
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Reply #22 posted 04/30/09 11:59am

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SCNDLS said:

MuthaFunka said:



I happen to like the strong Black man approach. cool

I know lots of strong black men that communicate effectively without being obnoxious and rude. Strong black man and dumb asshole are not synonymous to me. lol


There are some people who just can't handle that sorta brotha. It is what it is. cool
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Reply #23 posted 04/30/09 12:02pm

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MuthaFunka said:

SCNDLS said:


I know lots of strong black men that communicate effectively without being obnoxious and rude. Strong black man and dumb asshole are not synonymous to me. lol


There are some people who just can't handle that sorta brotha. It is what it is. cool

Well, I SHOL can't handle this ass. He's the type of fool a woman would feel the need to put a pillow over his face in his sleep. At least I would boxed
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Reply #24 posted 04/30/09 12:06pm

Graycap23

MuthaFunka said:

Graycap23 said:


Only when the mofo knows his subject.


SAS knows his shit, make no mistake about it. For some, he's a tough pill to swallow.

Mutha.....this GC23 u are talking 2. lol
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Reply #25 posted 04/30/09 1:27pm

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SCNDLS said:

MuthaFunka said:



There are some people who just can't handle that sorta brotha. It is what it is. cool

Well, I SHOL can't handle this ass. He's the type of fool a woman would feel the need to put a pillow over his face in his sleep. At least I would boxed

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Reply #26 posted 04/30/09 1:28pm

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Graycap23 said:

MuthaFunka said:



SAS knows his shit, make no mistake about it. For some, he's a tough pill to swallow.

Mutha.....this GC23 u are talking 2. lol

lol dawg, I know!...And I'm tellin' you, that dude knows his shit! Now, you may not agree with his "shit" but he certainly knows it! lol
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Reply #27 posted 04/30/09 1:31pm

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MuthaFunka said:

Graycap23 said:


Mutha.....this GC23 u are talking 2. lol

lol dawg, I know!...And I'm tellin' you, that dude knows his shit! Now, you may not agree with his "shit" but he certainly knows it! lol

That is why he carries Charmin where ever he goes? razz
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Reply #28 posted 04/30/09 1:36pm

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Graycap23 said:

MuthaFunka said:


lol dawg, I know!...And I'm tellin' you, that dude knows his shit! Now, you may not agree with his "shit" but he certainly knows it! lol

That is why he carries Charmin where ever he goes? razz

lol what?!?!?
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Reply #29 posted 04/30/09 1:45pm

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MuthaFunka said:

Graycap23 said:


That is why he carries Charmin where ever he goes? razz

lol what?!?!?

His shit.....needs 2 be cleaned up.
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