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PrintableDayclear said: She needs her ass kicked!
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PanthaGirl said: eaglebear4839 said: Actually, this idea of multiple abortions brings to light for me a question - is having too many abortions dangerous to the woman's body?
Of course it is... 
It's an unnatural procedure to begin with and so performed once in a lifetime is harmful enough, 4 within a year is really fucking with mother nature. The physiological and psychological factors should be taken into account and the right question is 'can this woman be trusted to make moral judgments on her own or is she morally incompetent to make these decisions'. The bigger fallacy would be that she is actually permitted to have that number of abortions within that time frame. Granted as women it is our right and in regards to her situation this is what comes of being uneducated in sexual relations and prophylactics! So if there is all this questioning about her psychology, stability and morality why not the abortions instead of her giving birth to a child? 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Shorty said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: The cost shouldn't be the issue compared to the possibility of a destroyed person raising another destroyed person and putting them on society. 4 abortions is way cheaper than the alternative, even for taxpayers or insurance companies.  you gotta be kiddin' me supa! ok...so it's cheaper than the alternative but it's still FUCKED UP! MINE, YOURS and EVERYBODY's TAXES pay for those abortions!300 dollars vs welfare for life? HELL DAMN O. We pay taxes for all kinds of crap that we don't agree with so until such time as I can opt out of paying for needless wars, I'll sympathize with those who don't want to pay for abortions. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: PanthaGirl said: Of course it is...
It's an unnatural procedure to begin with and so performed once in a lifetime is harmful enough, 4 within a year is really fucking with mother nature. The physiological and psychological factors should be taken into account and the right question is 'can this woman be trusted to make moral judgments on her own or is she morally incompetent to make these decisions'. The bigger fallacy would be that she is actually permitted to have that number of abortions within that time frame. Granted as women it is our right and in regards to her situation this is what comes of being uneducated in sexual relations and prophylactics! So if there is all this questioning about her psychology, stability and morality why not the abortions instead of her giving birth to a child? because she could give the kids up for adoption or foster care?  I still say there is option 3 birth control. Put her ass on Norplant (lasts 5 years) or tie her tubes- both reversible should she ever want a kid. Its just a shame there are NOT more long term birth control for men. Not to say they would use it...why would you if you got chicks like this willing to let you hump and dump.
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DesireeNevermind said:[quote] SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: So if there is all this questioning about her psychology, stability and morality why not the abortions instead of her giving birth to a child? dbl post edit [Edited 3/19/09 10:44am] | |
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CarrieMpls said: PanthaGirl said: Of course it is...
It's an unnatural procedure to begin with and so performed once in a lifetime is harmful enough, 4 within a year is really fucking with mother nature. The physiological and psychological factors should be taken into account and the right question is 'can this woman be trusted to make moral judgments on her own or is she morally incompetent to make these decisions'. The bigger fallacy would be that she is actually permitted to have that number of abortions within that time frame. Granted as women it is our right and in regards to her situation this is what comes of being uneducated in sexual relations and prophylactics! Whoa. 
I don't know about one time being "harmful enough". As Charlotte's first stat pointed out, the damage was in "at least 1%". 1% is incredibly small. In addition, D&C's are routinely performed to treat all kinds of issues with the uterus like abnormal bleeding (heavy flow!) and polycystic ovary syndrome. It's basically the same procedure. If it were so harmful to perform even once, it wouldn't be such a routine thing. And who decides that the woman can't "be trusted to make moral judgments on her own"? That's one of the scariest sentences I've ever read here, no joke. Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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DesireeNevermind said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: So if there is all this questioning about her psychology, stability and morality why not the abortions instead of her giving birth to a child? because she could give the kids up for adoption or foster care? I still say there is option 3 birth control. Put her ass on Norplant (lasts 5 years) or tie her tubes- both reversible should she ever want a kid. Its just a shame there are NOT more long term birth control for men. Not to say they would use it...why would you if you got chicks like this willing to let you hump and dump.
[Edited 3/19/09 10:45am] N TO THE O No woman should EVER be coerced, bullied, pressured or forced into being an incubator. I don't think women should ever make the choice of adoption or foster care unless it's one they truly want to make. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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DesireeNevermind said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: So if there is all this questioning about her psychology, stability and morality why not the abortions instead of her giving birth to a child? because she could give the kids up for adoption or foster care? I still say there is option 3 birth control. Put her ass on Norplant (lasts 5 years) or tie her tubes- both reversible should she ever want a kid. Its just a shame there are NOT more long term birth control for men. Not to say they would use it...why would you if you got chicks like this willing to let you hump and dump.
[Edited 3/19/09 10:45am] yea... i grew up in foster care. the system is in TERRIBLE shape, and doesn't need to be further burdened. people always want to think it's a system that works... it isn't. it is MASSIVELY underfunded, and underpopulated, and getting worse. honestly... how many people do you personally know in your life that are fostering or have adopted? there are TONS of kids in the US living in state run group homes because there aren't enough foster and/or adoptive parents Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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cborgman said: DesireeNevermind said: because she could give the kids up for adoption or foster care? I still say there is option 3 birth control. Put her ass on Norplant (lasts 5 years) or tie her tubes- both reversible should she ever want a kid. Its just a shame there are NOT more long term birth control for men. Not to say they would use it...why would you if you got chicks like this willing to let you hump and dump.
[Edited 3/19/09 10:45am] yea... i grew up in foster care. the system is in TERRIBLE shape, and doesn't need to be further burdened. people always want to think it's a system that works... it isn't. it is MASSIVELY underfunded, and underpopulated, and getting worse. honestly... how many people do you personally know in your life that are fostering or have adopted? there are TONS of kids in the US living in state run group homes because there aren't enough foster and/or adoptive parents Knowing many who have been through the nightmare of a system I think it is evil to purposely carry a child to term against your better judgement or will, to satisfy other people's needs. It's in terrible shape and forcing more unwanted kids into the system is just not the answer IMO. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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GaryTheNoTrashCougar said: Agree with me, 4 abortions in 12 months is excessive right? RIGHT?!?!?
And Gary, can you give us ANY DETAILS about this girl or is this just a lie for you to get your rocks off on?  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: DesireeNevermind said: because she could give the kids up for adoption or foster care? I still say there is option 3 birth control. Put her ass on Norplant (lasts 5 years) or tie her tubes- both reversible should she ever want a kid. Its just a shame there are NOT more long term birth control for men. Not to say they would use it...why would you if you got chicks like this willing to let you hump and dump.
[Edited 3/19/09 10:45am] N TO THE O No woman should EVER be coerced, bullied, pressured or forced into being an incubator. I don't think women should ever make the choice of adoption or foster care unless it's one they truly want to make. but the assumption was made that she had some psyche issues. seems she's screwed either way...coerced/pressured into having multiple abortions or coerced/pressured into having kids. It was not clear whether she was willingly having all these pregnancies terminated. And biologically speaking...women and other mammals are a type of INCUBATORS. The offspring aint coming into the world any other way- we don't hatch. I fail to see why non surgical birth control is not an option for this woman. The choices are endless and often cheap or free. She some kind of retarded sex slave? | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: GaryTheNoTrashCougar said: Agree with me, 4 abortions in 12 months is excessive right? RIGHT?!?!?
And Gary, can you give us ANY DETAILS about this girl or is this just a lie for you to get your rocks off on? I knew it!! That's messed up but dayum if this wasn't a fun debate thread. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: And Gary, can you give us ANY DETAILS about this girl or is this just a lie for you to get your rocks off on? I knew it!! That's messed up but dayum if this wasn't a fun debate thread. Bet it's total BS 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: cborgman said: yea... i grew up in foster care. the system is in TERRIBLE shape, and doesn't need to be further burdened. people always want to think it's a system that works... it isn't. it is MASSIVELY underfunded, and underpopulated, and getting worse. honestly... how many people do you personally know in your life that are fostering or have adopted? there are TONS of kids in the US living in state run group homes because there aren't enough foster and/or adoptive parents Knowing many who have been through the nightmare of a system I think it is evil to purposely carry a child to term against your better judgement or will, to satisfy other people's needs. It's in terrible shape and forcing more unwanted kids into the system is just not the answer IMO. don't get me wrong, there are some really good foster/adoptive parents out there, but there's a whole lot of shitty ones and a huge lack of either Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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cborgman said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Knowing many who have been through the nightmare of a system I think it is evil to purposely carry a child to term against your better judgement or will, to satisfy other people's needs. It's in terrible shape and forcing more unwanted kids into the system is just not the answer IMO. don't get me wrong, there are some really good foster/adoptive parents out there, but there's a whole lot of shitty ones and a huge lack of either I know. My aunt rescued 2 kids. I've seen more that is bad than that is good from the system though. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: DesireeNevermind said: because she could give the kids up for adoption or foster care? I still say there is option 3 birth control. Put her ass on Norplant (lasts 5 years) or tie her tubes- both reversible should she ever want a kid. Its just a shame there are NOT more long term birth control for men. Not to say they would use it...why would you if you got chicks like this willing to let you hump and dump.
[Edited 3/19/09 10:45am] N TO THE O No woman should EVER be coerced, bullied, pressured or forced into being an incubator. I don't think women should ever make the choice of adoption or foster care unless it's one they truly want to make. coerced, bullied, pressured or forced!?!?! deseree never said a woman should be forced into that....but it is yet another option. an incubator!?!?! then she should keep her fuckin legs closed. I just know you or someone are gonna bring up rape or incest...so I'll just say right now that those are the exception not the rule.  "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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Shorty said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: N TO THE O No woman should EVER be coerced, bullied, pressured or forced into being an incubator. I don't think women should ever make the choice of adoption or foster care unless it's one they truly want to make. coerced, bullied, pressured or forced!?!?! deseree never said a woman should be forced into that....but it is yet another option. an incubator!?!?! then she should keep her fuckin legs closed. I just know you or someone are gonna bring up rape or incest...so I'll just say right now that those are the exception not the rule. Whatever. Eggs don't deserve jack shit 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Shorty said: coerced, bullied, pressured or forced!?!?! deseree never said a woman should be forced into that....but it is yet another option. an incubator!?!?! then she should keep her fuckin legs closed. I just know you or someone are gonna bring up rape or incest...so I'll just say right now that those are the exception not the rule. Whatever. Eggs don't deserve jack shit thank you...that means I'm RIGHT! "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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Shorty said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Whatever. Eggs don't deserve jack shit thank you...that means I'm RIGHT! no! Now give me some tax dollars. I know a girl who needs 7 abortions today 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: cborgman said: don't get me wrong, there are some really good foster/adoptive parents out there, but there's a whole lot of shitty ones and a huge lack of either I know. My aunt rescued 2 kids. I've seen more that is bad than that is good from the system though. you know a system is fucked when they have to pay you to be a foster parent and let anybody and their daddy take on the roll. Rosie O'Donnel had a TV movie out not too long ago called America I think and it was about this boy who had been in the foster care system all his life and had been abused too. Made me  and  But then again...all boils down to folks using all this easy and available and cheap birth control. shit so many places to get condoms for free! | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: cborgman said: don't get me wrong, there are some really good foster/adoptive parents out there, but there's a whole lot of shitty ones and a huge lack of either I know. My aunt rescued 2 kids. I've seen more that is bad than that is good from the system though. thank her for me. i always make it a point to thank anyone i meet who fosters or adopts. and it goes beyond people... i adopt all my pets from shelters. Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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DesireeNevermind said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I know. My aunt rescued 2 kids. I've seen more that is bad than that is good from the system though. you know a system is fucked when they have to pay you to be a foster parent and let anybody and their daddy take on the roll. Rosie O'Donnel had a TV movie out not too long ago called America I think and it was about this boy who had been in the foster care system all his life and had been abused too. Made me and But then again...all boils down to folks using all this easy and available and cheap birth control. shit so many places to get condoms for free! I think everyone is in agreement that BC before A 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Shorty said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: N TO THE O No woman should EVER be coerced, bullied, pressured or forced into being an incubator. I don't think women should ever make the choice of adoption or foster care unless it's one they truly want to make. coerced, bullied, pressured or forced!?!?! deseree never said a woman should be forced into that....but it is yet another option. an incubator!?!?! then she should keep her fuckin legs closed. I just know you or someone are gonna bring up rape or incest...so I'll just say right now that those are the exception not the rule.  Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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DesireeNevermind said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I know. My aunt rescued 2 kids. I've seen more that is bad than that is good from the system though. you know a system is fucked when they have to pay you to be a foster parent and let anybody and their daddy take on the roll. Rosie O'Donnel had a TV movie out not too long ago called America I think and it was about this boy who had been in the foster care system all his life and had been abused too. Made me and But then again...all boils down to folks using all this easy and available and cheap birth control. shit so many places to get condoms for free! yes, bc is a much better option, especially when you factor in stds and you would be suprised how much they don't let anyone adopt or foster. many gay people have been denied because they are gay. a huge number of states have recently enacted laws to block gay folks from adopting/fostering. rosie herself lost her foster daughter some years ago for being gay. it's fucking moronic. Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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we need Norplant for men. something to inject so they don't go around knocking up women all the gat dayum time. I don't trust them to take pills. Now if we could invent a birth control that looked and tasted like beer...well Bingo!! | |
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DesireeNevermind said: we need Norplant for men. something to inject so they don't go around knocking up women all the gat dayum time. I don't trust them to take pills. Now if we could invent a birth control that looked and tasted like beer...well Bingo!!
How about an axe: :chopchop: No more sperm! 
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In 2000 the family took in a foster child Mia (born in 1997), and announced intentions to adopt her. In 2001 the state of Florida removed Mia from their home, and Rosie has since worked extensively to bring an end to the Florida law prohibiting same-sex family adoption.[39][40] Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Shorty said: thank you...that means I'm RIGHT! no! Now give me some tax dollars. I know a girl who needs 7 abortions today yes it does!
no, no more taxes for her...push her off a bridge for me wouldya please! "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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Shorty said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: no! Now give me some tax dollars. I know a girl who needs 7 abortions today yes it does!
no, no more taxes for her...push her off a bridge for me wouldya please! I agree with you about Never Be Another  
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