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Reply #60 posted 03/18/09 1:24pm

JustErin

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

mdiver said:



Go to the mother thread, many wonderful people have come from fucked up parents mate.


And many if not most who are raised by fucked up parents are fucked up too. Small success stories don't negate the overall reality.


Sooooo fucking true.
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Reply #61 posted 03/18/09 1:26pm

mdiver

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

mdiver said:



Go to the mother thread, many wonderful people have come from fucked up parents mate.


And many if not most who are raised by fucked up parents are fucked up too. Small success stories don't negate the overall reality.


I agree, just i dont think your absolutes (and you gotta admit you do use em) negate good people coming from bad shit
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Reply #62 posted 03/18/09 1:29pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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mdiver said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



And many if not most who are raised by fucked up parents are fucked up too. Small success stories don't negate the overall reality.


I agree, just i dont think your absolutes (and you gotta admit you do use em) negate good people coming from bad shit

I am proof that you are right! biggrin I wasn't saying all, just that the likelyhood of a woman who is ending up in this situation is probably not very educated, and from lack of education comes many other issues. I wasn't labeling everyone the devil lol
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Reply #63 posted 03/18/09 1:37pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

mdiver said:



I agree, just i dont think your absolutes (and you gotta admit you do use em) negate good people coming from bad shit

I am proof that you are right! biggrin I wasn't saying all, just that the likelyhood of a woman who is ending up in this situation is probably not very educated, and from lack of education comes many other issues. I wasn't labeling everyone the devil lol


hug


Oh and btw


purse wink
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Reply #64 posted 03/18/09 1:39pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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mdiver said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


I am proof that you are right! biggrin I wasn't saying all, just that the likelyhood of a woman who is ending up in this situation is probably not very educated, and from lack of education comes many other issues. I wasn't labeling everyone the devil lol


hug


Oh and btw


purse wink

My mom raised me with good swingin skills lol

wink
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Reply #65 posted 03/18/09 1:41pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

mdiver said:



hug


Oh and btw


purse wink

My mom raised me with good swingin skills lol

wink


I don't doubt that mate. lol
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Reply #66 posted 03/18/09 1:41pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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mdiver said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


My mom raised me with good swingin skills lol

wink


I don't doubt that mate. lol

I.

AM.

LINDA.

JR

exclaim


Everyone knows you really can't mess with my mom lol
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Reply #67 posted 03/18/09 1:42pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

mdiver said:



I don't doubt that mate. lol

I.

AM.

LINDA.

JR

exclaim


Everyone knows you really can't mess with my mom lol


falloff
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Reply #68 posted 03/18/09 2:28pm

johnart

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Vendetta1 said:

I don't really care if a woman wants to have an abortion a month. That is on her and her decision alone.


I just love you. hug

I would think that medically it might seem excessive to have abortions with that frequency. shrug
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Reply #69 posted 03/18/09 2:33pm

hokie

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Agree with me, 4 abortions in 12 months is excessive right? RIGHT?!?!?



Seems so, but I won't judge. I don't know the circumstances. Excessive doesn't necessarily mean it's bad.
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Reply #70 posted 03/18/09 3:31pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

on the health/medical tip, my cousin has 8 abortions and yes it messed her up down there but she also went on to have 5 kids.....

where exactly? confuse
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Reply #71 posted 03/18/09 3:33pm

ZombieKitten

johnart said:

Vendetta1 said:

I don't really care if a woman wants to have an abortion a month. That is on her and her decision alone.


I just love you. hug

I would think that medically it might seem excessive to have abortions with that frequency. shrug


also hormonally I don't think it's healthy to have such extreme swings in levels
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Reply #72 posted 03/18/09 3:36pm

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ZombieKitten said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

on the health/medical tip, my cousin has 8 abortions and yes it messed her up down there but she also went on to have 5 kids.....

where exactly? confuse

Well later when she wanted to conceive she kept having miscarriages. 4 of them before successfully carrying the others to term. She had to be on bed rest for all the pregnancies nod
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Reply #73 posted 03/18/09 3:37pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ZombieKitten said:


where exactly? confuse

Well later when she wanted to conceive she kept having miscarriages. 4 of them before successfully carrying the others to term. She had to be on bed rest for all the pregnancies nod

do you know if it was because she had an incompetent cervix?
I'd imagine that forcing open the cervix for a D&C that many times may cause muscle laxity hmmm
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Reply #74 posted 03/18/09 3:40pm

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ZombieKitten said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Well later when she wanted to conceive she kept having miscarriages. 4 of them before successfully carrying the others to term. She had to be on bed rest for all the pregnancies nod

do you know if it was because she had an incompetent cervix?
I'd imagine that forcing open the cervix for a D&C that many times may cause muscle laxity hmmm

Just a connection I guess. She never miscarried in the 8 pregnancies she had the abortions for so I'm just guessing that is the reason why she kept having miscarriages after and needed bed rest for her pregnancies.
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Reply #75 posted 03/18/09 3:42pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ZombieKitten said:


do you know if it was because she had an incompetent cervix?
I'd imagine that forcing open the cervix for a D&C that many times may cause muscle laxity hmmm

Just a connection I guess. She never miscarried in the 8 pregnancies she had the abortions for so I'm just guessing that is the reason why she kept having miscarriages after and needed bed rest for her pregnancies.


http://www.4abortion.net/...r_abor.htm

this is interesting reading

Significant cervical lacerations requiring sutures occur in at least one percent of first trimester abortions. Lesser lacerations, or micro fractures, which would normally not be treated may also result in long term reproductive damage. Latent post-abortion cervical damage may result in subsequent cervical incompetence, premature delivery, and complications of labor. The risk of cervical damage is greater for teenagers, for second trimester abortions, and when practitioners fail to use laminaria for dilation of the cervix.(7)
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Reply #76 posted 03/18/09 3:43pm

ZombieKitten

INCREASED RISKS FOR WOMEN SEEKING MULTIPLE ABORTIONS:
In general, most of the studies cited above reflect risk factors for women who undergo a single abortion. These same studies show that women who have multiple abortions face a much greater risk of experiencing these complications. This point is especially noteworthy since approximately 45% of all abortions are for repeat aborters. confused
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Reply #77 posted 03/18/09 3:44pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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ZombieKitten said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Just a connection I guess. She never miscarried in the 8 pregnancies she had the abortions for so I'm just guessing that is the reason why she kept having miscarriages after and needed bed rest for her pregnancies.


http://www.4abortion.net/...r_abor.htm

this is interesting reading

Significant cervical lacerations requiring sutures occur in at least one percent of first trimester abortions. Lesser lacerations, or micro fractures, which would normally not be treated may also result in long term reproductive damage. Latent post-abortion cervical damage may result in subsequent cervical incompetence, premature delivery, and complications of labor. The risk of cervical damage is greater for teenagers, for second trimester abortions, and when practitioners fail to use laminaria for dilation of the cervix.(7)


How is the cervix dialated. With medication or forcefully with tools?
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Reply #78 posted 03/18/09 3:52pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ZombieKitten said:



http://www.4abortion.net/...r_abor.htm

this is interesting reading

Significant cervical lacerations requiring sutures occur in at least one percent of first trimester abortions. Lesser lacerations, or micro fractures, which would normally not be treated may also result in long term reproductive damage. Latent post-abortion cervical damage may result in subsequent cervical incompetence, premature delivery, and complications of labor. The risk of cervical damage is greater for teenagers, for second trimester abortions, and when practitioners fail to use laminaria for dilation of the cervix.(7)


How is the cervix dialated. With medication or forcefully with tools?


What Are The Steps For Dilation And Curettage?

The doctor completely inspects the pelvic reproductive organs for any abnormal changes.
Next, a speculum is inserted into the vagina to open the walls so the doctor can see the cervix.
A clamp-like instrument holds the cervix in place.
The cervix is dialated with a series of tapered rods of increasing widths which are inserted into the cervical opening (the OS).
A curette is passed through the uterus and used to scrape the uterine walls. This loosens pieces of the lining which are removed and sent to a lab for microscopic examination. Another method of obtaining a sample of the uterine lining is by applying suction through a narrow tube.


they do it with a kind of local anaesthetic I would hope
I don't know how much an abortion differs to the steps above
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Reply #79 posted 03/18/09 4:02pm

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As always and forever, it depends. Was she raped four times? Were there medical problems? Or is she just a bit of a girl? Either way, none of these reasons really matter. Why actually care? Even if these hungry tumours were ensouled by some creator of all things visible and invisible at birth, who cares? Anyone who says life is a gift is kidding themselves. Those of us not using delusion as a crutch choke all our days. We fucking choke, on ourselves, on the very meaningless of meaning. The greatest astrophysicists say all past, present and future exists at the same time from a universal perspective - a Godlike perspective for you yahoos out there - so all decisons have already been made. Absolutely no free will. The quarks glued together to create the neutrual pathways of your brain were boiled in exploding stars billions of years ago. That's some truth I dig. Everything existed simulteniously at oe point. No mass can enter or leave this reality. Ever. I have trouble sleeping with that concept! Alas, I don't have much of a moral framework. I'm just enthusiastically curious about most things. I like to pick at scabs. I would just let this silly girl know you can't get welfare vouchers for Tena Lady.
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Reply #80 posted 03/18/09 4:02pm

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'Prevention' is better than 'cure' - there are so many other types of contraception that would be better employed here.
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Reply #81 posted 03/18/09 4:07pm

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Number23 said:

As always and forever, it depends. Was she raped four times? Were there medical problems? Or is she just a bit of a girl? Either way, none of these reasons really matter. Why actually care? Even if these hungry tumours were ensouled by some creator of all things visible and invisible at birth, who cares? Anyone who says life is a gift is kidding themselves. Those of us not using delusion as a crutch choke all our days. We fucking choke, on ourselves, on the very meaningless of meaning. The greatest astrophysicists say all past, present and future exists at the same time from a universal perspective - a Godlike perspective for you yahoos out there - so all decisons have already been made. Absolutely no free will. The quarks glued together to create the neutrual pathways of your brain were boiled in exploding stars billions of years ago. That's some truth I dig. Everything existed simulteniously at oe point. No mass can enter or leave this reality. Ever. I have trouble sleeping with that concept! Alas, I don't have much of a moral framework. I'm just enthusiastically curious about most things. I like to pick at scabs. I would just let this silly girl know you can't get welfare vouchers for Tena Lady.

http://prince.org/msg/100/143186

The topic is 'abortion', after all.
Oh shit, my hat done fell off
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Reply #82 posted 03/18/09 4:10pm

Number23

INSATIABLE said:

Number23 said:

As always and forever, it depends. Was she raped four times? Were there medical problems? Or is she just a bit of a girl? Either way, none of these reasons really matter. Why actually care? Even if these hungry tumours were ensouled by some creator of all things visible and invisible at birth, who cares? Anyone who says life is a gift is kidding themselves. Those of us not using delusion as a crutch choke all our days. We fucking choke, on ourselves, on the very meaningless of meaning. The greatest astrophysicists say all past, present and future exists at the same time from a universal perspective - a Godlike perspective for you yahoos out there - so all decisons have already been made. Absolutely no free will. The quarks glued together to create the neutrual pathways of your brain were boiled in exploding stars billions of years ago. That's some truth I dig. Everything existed simulteniously at oe point. No mass can enter or leave this reality. Ever. I have trouble sleeping with that concept! Alas, I don't have much of a moral framework. I'm just enthusiastically curious about most things. I like to pick at scabs. I would just let this silly girl know you can't get welfare vouchers for Tena Lady.

http://prince.org/msg/100/143186

The topic is 'abortion', after all.

Ach, I'm not even clicking on that. It's probably just something else to raise my blood pressure.
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Reply #83 posted 03/18/09 4:12pm

Number23

Okay, I clicked on it. That brought back memories. I remeber going for a bath between posts. I even remember the shampoo I used. Well, the smell. It's always the smell.
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Reply #84 posted 03/18/09 4:13pm

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Number23 said:

INSATIABLE said:


http://prince.org/msg/100/143186

The topic is 'abortion', after all.

Ach, I'm not even clicking on that. It's probably just something else to raise my blood pressure.

I deleted my alter accounts this morning and was going through some old threads. And your not clicking on it is just the universe having made up its mind and all that. smile Blood pressure too.

In that case, I'm going to finish these sunflower seeds with no guilt.
Oh shit, my hat done fell off
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Reply #85 posted 03/18/09 4:15pm

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INSATIABLE said:

Number23 said:


Ach, I'm not even clicking on that. It's probably just something else to raise my blood pressure.

I deleted my alter accounts this morning and was going through some old threads. And your not clicking on it is just the universe having made up its mind and all that. smile Blood pressure too.

In that case, I'm going to finish these sunflower seeds with no guilt.

You've already ate them. I'm sure they're growing into big, tall, strong sunflowers in heaven. smile
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Reply #86 posted 03/18/09 4:16pm

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MrsGoodnight said:

'Prevention' is better than 'cure' - there are so many other types of contraception that would be better employed here.


http://query.nytimes.com/...A9659C8B63
I remember back in the in the not too distant past, women in countries like russia didn't have alternatives available to them, abortion was the most common form of contraception - after rhythm and withdrawal methods (my doc says what do you call people using those two methods of birth control? "Parents!" lol )
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Reply #87 posted 03/18/09 4:28pm

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How in the hell is abortion considered birth control???!!!??? Whoever agrees with this is sick as fuck! I understand if you have to get at least 1 or 2 in your lifetime, but 3 or 4 within a 12 month time span???? disbelief some women can't even get pregnant but you got these bitches out here using abortions like some kind of monthly spa appointment, what the fuck??!!! omfg
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Reply #88 posted 03/18/09 4:28pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Agree but I have no problem with abortion as birth control. This person should probably not be a mother right now.

disbelief i can't believe you even said this. That's rediculous.
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Reply #89 posted 03/18/09 4:30pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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missfee said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Agree but I have no problem with abortion as birth control. This person should probably not be a mother right now.

disbelief i can't believe you even said this. That's rediculous.

I don't. If a woman doesn't want to be pregnant, it is a way to achieve that. I would rather there be educated choices but if it has to come to that it does and I'm not one to argue about it. I'd just as soon educate that girl and give her choices though so she doesn't have to have an abortion at all.
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