Vendetta1 said: mdiver said: That is up to you if you wish to draw that judgement. I can only speak for me and say that my answer is entirely based on the possible physical and mental health issues that she is exposing herself to. | |
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mdiver said: Vendetta1 said: Most people in this thread are making a judgment.
I can only speak for me and say that my answer is entirely based on the possible physical and mental health issues that she is exposing herself to. | |
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CalhounSq said: Lammastide said: Just to reposition Efan's question, at what number is an abortion in, say, 12 months "excessive?"
There seems to be a general agreement here so far (albeit not unanimous) that four is too much. How about three? Two? One? I guess the point is that the arbitrariness of the number suggests there may be other "excessive-making" factors around our varied opinions on abortion. I'm curious to know what some of them are. Any more than 1 in 12 months is excessive. Any more than 1 in 3 years is excessive to me. Can I put you on the spot and ask how you've decided on those numbers? No loaded question here. I'm just interested to know. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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Efan said: mdiver said: No, just putting oneself at risk Okay, but somehow I don't think a lot of the people answering the question are going to concerned about the woman's health. How concerned about her health is the woman in question if she's having that procedure done 4 times in a year I won't front - it's less about her health, more about a sense of right & wrong imo... | |
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Vendetta1 said: mdiver said: I can only speak for me and say that my answer is entirely based on the possible physical and mental health issues that she is exposing herself to. [Edited 3/18/09 12:41pm] | |
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mdiver said: Vendetta1 said: Source?
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Lammastide said: CalhounSq said: Any more than 1 in 12 months is excessive. Any more than 1 in 3 years is excessive to me. Can I put you on the spot and ask how you've decided on those numbers? No loaded question here. I'm just interested to know. The only way to answer why I feel the way I feel on it is this: I've had one abortion in my lifetime. I was 19 years old, used a condom (!), was in my sophmore year of college & knew what I had to do. Since then I've been safer than I was that time, would still be on the pill today if I hadn't been taken off it by a doctor. I just feel like I learned my lesson & I don't take being up on that table lightly. There's too much we can do to prevent pregnancy, & folks who just don't care enough to think about it confuse me. I've never been SO hot for some dick that I'd risk having that done again. A mistake is one thing, but using that procedure as a method of birth control just ain't right... & back to the question, having ONE in 18 years is enough for me . [Edited 3/18/09 12:47pm] | |
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Vendetta1 said: I don't really care if a woman wants to have an abortion a month. That is on her and her decision alone.
agreed. condoms are a lot cheaper though. Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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Vendetta1 said: mdiver said: [Edited 3/18/09 12:41pm] I answered the question then realised you were being sarcastic asking me for a source for my feelings I am dense sometimes | |
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Yes, it's excessive. And I'm not talking about her health... | |
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CalhounSq said: Lammastide said: Can I put you on the spot and ask how you've decided on those numbers? No loaded question here. I'm just interested to know. The only way to answer why I feel the way I feel on it is this: I've had one abortion in my lifetime. I was 19 years old, used a condom (!), was in my sophmore year of college & knew what I had to do. Since then I've been safer than I was that time, would still be on the pill today if I hadn't been taken off it by a doctor. I just feel like I learned my lesson & I don't take being up on that table lightly. There's too much we can do to prevent pregnancy, & folks who just don't care enough to think about it confuse me. I've never been SO hot for some dick that I'd risk having that done again. A mistake is one thing, but using that procedure as a method of birth control just ain't right... & back to the question, having ONE in 18 years is enough for me . [Edited 3/18/09 12:47pm] Thanks for that, Calhoun. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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cborgman said: Vendetta1 said: I don't really care if a woman wants to have an abortion a month. That is on her and her decision alone.
agreed. condoms are a lot cheaper though. | |
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Vendetta1 said: cborgman said: agreed. condoms are a lot cheaper though. kinda dumb on both their parts Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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CalhounSq said: Lammastide said: Can I put you on the spot and ask how you've decided on those numbers? No loaded question here. I'm just interested to know. The only way to answer why I feel the way I feel on it is this: I've had one abortion in my lifetime. I was 19 years old, used a condom (!), was in my sophmore year of college & knew what I had to do. Since then I've been safer than I was that time, would still be on the pill today if I hadn't been taken off it by a doctor. I just feel like I learned my lesson & I don't take being up on that table lightly. There's too much we can do to prevent pregnancy, & folks who just don't care enough to think about it confuse me. I've never been SO hot for some dick that I'd risk having that done again. A mistake is one thing, but using that procedure as a method of birth control just ain't right... & back to the question, having ONE in 18 years is enough for me . [Edited 3/18/09 12:47pm] You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Ex-Moderator | Vendetta1 said: I don't really care if a woman wants to have an abortion a month. That is on her and her decision alone.
I'm with you on this one. But I wonder how that could possibly happen. There's something pretty serious going on. Lack of education, low self esteem, emotional or physical problems or all of the above. |
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cborgman said: Vendetta1 said: Very true but there are tons of guys who won't use them and women more than willing to fuck without them.
kinda dumb on both their parts | |
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cborgman said: Vendetta1 said: I don't really care if a woman wants to have an abortion a month. That is on her and her decision alone.
agreed. condoms are a lot cheaper though. I wonder if health insurance pays for abortions? Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul | |
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CalhounSq said: Lammastide said: Can I put you on the spot and ask how you've decided on those numbers? No loaded question here. I'm just interested to know. The only way to answer why I feel the way I feel on it is this: I've had one abortion in my lifetime. I was 19 years old, used a condom (!), was in my sophmore year of college & knew what I had to do. Since then I've been safer than I was that time, would still be on the pill today if I hadn't been taken off it by a doctor. I just feel like I learned my lesson & I don't take being up on that table lightly. There's too much we can do to prevent pregnancy, & folks who just don't care enough to think about it confuse me. I've never been SO hot for some dick that I'd risk having that done again. A mistake is one thing, but using that procedure as a method of birth control just ain't right... & back to the question, having ONE in 18 years is enough for me . [Edited 3/18/09 12:47pm] | |
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Efan said: mdiver said: No, just putting oneself at risk Okay, but somehow I don't think a lot of the people answering the question are going to concerned about the woman's health. I agree and that is the ONLY reason why I would agree 4 in one year is too many. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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veronikka said: cborgman said: agreed. condoms are a lot cheaper though. I wonder if health insurance pays for abortions? i doubt it Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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on the health/medical tip, my cousin has 8 abortions and yes it messed her up down there but she also went on to have 5 kids..... 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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cborgman said: veronikka said: I wonder if health insurance pays for abortions? i doubt it | |
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Vendetta1 said: cborgman said: i doubt it The cost shouldn't be the issue compared to the possibility of a destroyed person raising another destroyed person and putting them on society. 4 abortions is way cheaper than the alternative, even for taxpayers or insurance companies. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Vendetta1 said: Abortions are free if you have medicaid. And anyone can get their tubes tied for free.
The cost shouldn't be the issue compared to the possibility of a destroyed person raising another destroyed person and putting them on society. 4 abortions is way cheaper than the alternative, even for taxpayers or insurance companies. | |
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Vendetta1 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: The cost shouldn't be the issue compared to the possibility of a destroyed person raising another destroyed person and putting them on society. 4 abortions is way cheaper than the alternative, even for taxpayers or insurance companies. Maybe, maybe not. The people I know who have acted in this kind of manner were destroyed. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Vendetta1 said: Who says they are destroyed?
Maybe, maybe not. The people I know who have acted in this kind of manner were destroyed. Go to the mother thread, many wonderful people have come from fucked up parents mate. | |
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CalhounSq said: Lammastide said: Just to reposition Efan's question, at what number is an abortion in, say, 12 months "excessive?"
There seems to be a general agreement here so far (albeit not unanimous) that four is too much. How about three? Two? One? I guess the point is that the arbitrariness of the number suggests there may be other "excessive-making" factors around our varied opinions on abortion. I'm curious to know what some of them are. Any more than 1 in 12 months is excessive. Any more than 1 in 3 years is excessive to me. I agree. Too much emtionally and physically. Peace. Love. Prince | |
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I'm pro-choice, so I think she has the right to do what she wants.
I just think the choice to use abortion as birth control over and over again is gross. | |
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mdiver said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Maybe, maybe not. The people I know who have acted in this kind of manner were destroyed. Go to the mother thread, many wonderful people have come from fucked up parents mate. And many if not most who are raised by fucked up parents are fucked up too. Small success stories don't negate the overall reality. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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JustErin said: I'm pro-choice, so I think she has the right to do what she wants.
I just think the choice to use abortion as birth control over and over again is gross. | |
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