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Reply #30 posted 03/18/09 12:36pm

mdiver

Vendetta1 said:

mdiver said:



That is up to you if you wish to draw that judgement.
Most people in this thread are making a judgment.


I can only speak for me and say that my answer is entirely based on the possible physical and mental health issues that she is exposing herself to.
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Reply #31 posted 03/18/09 12:38pm

Vendetta1

mdiver said:

Vendetta1 said:

Most people in this thread are making a judgment.


I can only speak for me and say that my answer is entirely based on the possible physical and mental health issues that she is exposing herself to.
Source? lol
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Reply #32 posted 03/18/09 12:38pm

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CalhounSq said:

Lammastide said:

Just to reposition Efan's question, at what number is an abortion in, say, 12 months "excessive?"

There seems to be a general agreement here so far (albeit not unanimous) that four is too much. How about three? Two? One?

I guess the point is that the arbitrariness of the number suggests there may be other "excessive-making" factors around our varied opinions on abortion.

I'm curious to know what some of them are.


Any more than 1 in 12 months is excessive. Any more than 1 in 3 years is excessive to me.

Can I put you on the spot and ask how you've decided on those numbers? No loaded question here. smile I'm just interested to know.
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Reply #33 posted 03/18/09 12:39pm

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Efan said:

mdiver said:



No, just putting oneself at risk


Okay, but somehow I don't think a lot of the people answering the question are going to concerned about the woman's health.

How concerned about her health is the woman in question if she's having that procedure done 4 times in a year confused I won't front - it's less about her health, more about a sense of right & wrong imo...
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Reply #34 posted 03/18/09 12:41pm

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Vendetta1 said:

mdiver said:



I can only speak for me and say that my answer is entirely based on the possible physical and mental health issues that she is exposing herself to.
Source? lol

lol
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Reply #35 posted 03/18/09 12:46pm

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mdiver said:

Vendetta1 said:

Source? lol

lol
[Edited 3/18/09 12:41pm]
What did you erase? lol
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Reply #36 posted 03/18/09 12:46pm

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Lammastide said:

CalhounSq said:


Any more than 1 in 12 months is excessive. Any more than 1 in 3 years is excessive to me.

Can I put you on the spot and ask how you've decided on those numbers? No loaded question here. smile I'm just interested to know.

The only way to answer why I feel the way I feel on it is this: I've had one abortion in my lifetime. I was 19 years old, used a condom (!), was in my sophmore year of college & knew what I had to do. Since then I've been safer than I was that time, would still be on the pill today if I hadn't been taken off it by a doctor. I just feel like I learned my lesson & I don't take being up on that table lightly. There's too much we can do to prevent pregnancy, & folks who just don't care enough to think about it confuse me. I've never been SO hot for some dick that I'd risk having that done again. A mistake is one thing, but using that procedure as a method of birth control just ain't right...

twocents

& back to the question, having ONE in 18 years is enough for me exclaim


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Reply #37 posted 03/18/09 12:47pm

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Vendetta1 said:

I don't really care if a woman wants to have an abortion a month. That is on her and her decision alone.


agreed.

condoms are a lot cheaper though.
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Reply #38 posted 03/18/09 12:47pm

mdiver

Vendetta1 said:

mdiver said:


lol
[Edited 3/18/09 12:41pm]
What did you erase? lol


lol I answered the question then realised you were being sarcastic asking me for a source for my feelings lol I am dense sometimes
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Reply #39 posted 03/18/09 12:47pm

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Yes, it's excessive. And I'm not talking about her health...
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Reply #40 posted 03/18/09 12:48pm

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CalhounSq said:

Lammastide said:


Can I put you on the spot and ask how you've decided on those numbers? No loaded question here. smile I'm just interested to know.

The only way to answer why I feel the way I feel on it is this: I've had one abortion in my lifetime. I was 19 years old, used a condom (!), was in my sophmore year of college & knew what I had to do. Since then I've been safer than I was that time, would still be on the pill today if I hadn't been taken off it by a doctor. I just feel like I learned my lesson & I don't take being up on that table lightly. There's too much we can do to prevent pregnancy, & folks who just don't care enough to think about it confuse me. I've never been SO hot for some dick that I'd risk having that done again. A mistake is one thing, but using that procedure as a method of birth control just ain't right...

twocents

& back to the question, having ONE in 18 years is enough for me exclaim


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[Edited 3/18/09 12:47pm]

Thanks for that, Calhoun.
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Reply #41 posted 03/18/09 12:50pm

Vendetta1

cborgman said:

Vendetta1 said:

I don't really care if a woman wants to have an abortion a month. That is on her and her decision alone.


agreed.

condoms are a lot cheaper though.
Very true but there are tons of guys who won't use them and women more than willing to fuck without them.
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Reply #42 posted 03/18/09 12:50pm

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Vendetta1 said:

cborgman said:



agreed.

condoms are a lot cheaper though.
Very true but there are tons of guys who won't use them and women more than willing to fuck without them.


kinda dumb on both their parts
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Reply #43 posted 03/18/09 12:50pm

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CalhounSq said:

Lammastide said:


Can I put you on the spot and ask how you've decided on those numbers? No loaded question here. smile I'm just interested to know.

The only way to answer why I feel the way I feel on it is this: I've had one abortion in my lifetime. I was 19 years old, used a condom (!), was in my sophmore year of college & knew what I had to do. Since then I've been safer than I was that time, would still be on the pill today if I hadn't been taken off it by a doctor. I just feel like I learned my lesson & I don't take being up on that table lightly. There's too much we can do to prevent pregnancy, & folks who just don't care enough to think about it confuse me. I've never been SO hot for some dick that I'd risk having that done again. A mistake is one thing, but using that procedure as a method of birth control just ain't right...

twocents

& back to the question, having ONE in 18 years is enough for me exclaim


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[Edited 3/18/09 12:47pm]

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Reply #44 posted 03/18/09 12:51pm

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Vendetta1 said:

I don't really care if a woman wants to have an abortion a month. That is on her and her decision alone.


I'm with you on this one.

But I wonder how that could possibly happen. There's something pretty serious going on. Lack of education, low self esteem, emotional or physical problems or all of the above.
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Reply #45 posted 03/18/09 12:51pm

Vendetta1

cborgman said:

Vendetta1 said:

Very true but there are tons of guys who won't use them and women more than willing to fuck without them.


kinda dumb on both their parts
I know tons of people like this.
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Reply #46 posted 03/18/09 12:52pm

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cborgman said:

Vendetta1 said:

I don't really care if a woman wants to have an abortion a month. That is on her and her decision alone.


agreed.

condoms are a lot cheaper though.



I wonder if health insurance pays for abortions?
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Reply #47 posted 03/18/09 12:52pm

mdiver

CalhounSq said:

Lammastide said:


Can I put you on the spot and ask how you've decided on those numbers? No loaded question here. smile I'm just interested to know.

The only way to answer why I feel the way I feel on it is this: I've had one abortion in my lifetime. I was 19 years old, used a condom (!), was in my sophmore year of college & knew what I had to do. Since then I've been safer than I was that time, would still be on the pill today if I hadn't been taken off it by a doctor. I just feel like I learned my lesson & I don't take being up on that table lightly. There's too much we can do to prevent pregnancy, & folks who just don't care enough to think about it confuse me. I've never been SO hot for some dick that I'd risk having that done again. A mistake is one thing, but using that procedure as a method of birth control just ain't right...

twocents

& back to the question, having ONE in 18 years is enough for me exclaim


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[Edited 3/18/09 12:47pm]


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Reply #48 posted 03/18/09 12:55pm

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Efan said:

mdiver said:



No, just putting oneself at risk


Okay, but somehow I don't think a lot of the people answering the question are going to concerned about the woman's health.

I agree and that is the ONLY reason why I would agree 4 in one year is too many.
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Reply #49 posted 03/18/09 12:59pm

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veronikka said:

cborgman said:



agreed.

condoms are a lot cheaper though.



I wonder if health insurance pays for abortions?


i doubt it
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Reply #50 posted 03/18/09 1:05pm

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on the health/medical tip, my cousin has 8 abortions and yes it messed her up down there but she also went on to have 5 kids.....
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Reply #51 posted 03/18/09 1:07pm

Vendetta1

cborgman said:

veronikka said:




I wonder if health insurance pays for abortions?


i doubt it
Abortions are free if you have medicaid. And anyone can get their tubes tied for free.
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Reply #52 posted 03/18/09 1:08pm

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Vendetta1 said:

cborgman said:



i doubt it
Abortions are free if you have medicaid. And anyone can get their tubes tied for free.

The cost shouldn't be the issue compared to the possibility of a destroyed person raising another destroyed person and putting them on society. 4 abortions is way cheaper than the alternative, even for taxpayers or insurance companies.
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Reply #53 posted 03/18/09 1:12pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Vendetta1 said:

Abortions are free if you have medicaid. And anyone can get their tubes tied for free.

The cost shouldn't be the issue compared to the possibility of a destroyed person raising another destroyed person and putting them on society. 4 abortions is way cheaper than the alternative, even for taxpayers or insurance companies.
Who says they are destroyed?
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Reply #54 posted 03/18/09 1:15pm

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Vendetta1 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


The cost shouldn't be the issue compared to the possibility of a destroyed person raising another destroyed person and putting them on society. 4 abortions is way cheaper than the alternative, even for taxpayers or insurance companies.
Who says they are destroyed?

Maybe, maybe not. The people I know who have acted in this kind of manner were destroyed.
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Reply #55 posted 03/18/09 1:19pm

mdiver

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Vendetta1 said:

Who says they are destroyed?

Maybe, maybe not. The people I know who have acted in this kind of manner were destroyed.


Go to the mother thread, many wonderful people have come from fucked up parents mate.
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Reply #56 posted 03/18/09 1:21pm

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CalhounSq said:

Lammastide said:

Just to reposition Efan's question, at what number is an abortion in, say, 12 months "excessive?"

There seems to be a general agreement here so far (albeit not unanimous) that four is too much. How about three? Two? One?

I guess the point is that the arbitrariness of the number suggests there may be other "excessive-making" factors around our varied opinions on abortion.

I'm curious to know what some of them are.


Any more than 1 in 12 months is excessive. Any more than 1 in 3 years is excessive to me.


I agree. Too much emtionally and physically.
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Reply #57 posted 03/18/09 1:23pm

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I'm pro-choice, so I think she has the right to do what she wants.

I just think the choice to use abortion as birth control over and over again is gross.
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Reply #58 posted 03/18/09 1:24pm

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mdiver said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Maybe, maybe not. The people I know who have acted in this kind of manner were destroyed.


Go to the mother thread, many wonderful people have come from fucked up parents mate.


And many if not most who are raised by fucked up parents are fucked up too. Small success stories don't negate the overall reality.
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Reply #59 posted 03/18/09 1:24pm

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I'm pro-choice, so I think she has the right to do what she wants.

I just think the choice to use abortion as birth control over and over again is gross.

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