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4 abortions in 12 months? she needs her tubes tied. (UPDATED) Agree with me, 4 abortions in 12 months is excessive right? RIGHT?!?!?
UPDATED BIT: Sorry, was occupied with something else, for those who need a little background this refers to one of the clients who uses a family planning clinic I own in partnership. I have no clinical decision making powers, that's up to the medics. What I understand is that she will be referred back to her GP if she requests our services again. [Edited 3/24/09 1:42am] Wer ist dort? Unterbrechende Kuh. Unterbrech... Muh!!! | |
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Yes. | |
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Agree but I have no problem with abortion as birth control. This person should probably not be a mother right now. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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there are so many options that it doesn't need to come to that!
abortion is still a medical procedure and there are still risks. one every three months is ridiculous. hellooooo?!? plan B prescription, people!!!!! | |
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What kind of woman does that, really? Proud Memaw to Seyhan Olivia Christine ,Zoey Cirilo Jaylee & Ellie Abigail Lillian | |
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I wish I knew who we were talking about, but that's insane. Abortion shouldn't be used as birth control, it's an abuse of the right to do it. Whoever she is, she needs to invest in the pill or condoms or, like you said, tie the damn tubes. That's some ridiculous shit | |
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Someday all those abortions will come to haunt her medically. Proud Memaw to Seyhan Olivia Christine ,Zoey Cirilo Jaylee & Ellie Abigail Lillian | |
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MoniGram said: Someday all those abortions will come to haunt her medically.
it's extremely unhealthy to do them so frequently | |
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I have a friend who had an abortion about 3 or 4 weeks after having another (her fifth and sixth abortions overall... at least that she's shared with me). At that rate, she could have had more than 12 abortions in 12 months.
Excessive? I govern only myself, but I'm inclined to say yes. [Edited 3/18/09 16:53pm] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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CalhounSq said: I wish I knew who we were talking about, but that's insane. Abortion shouldn't be used as birth control, it's an abuse of the right to do it. Whoever she is, she needs to invest in the pill or condoms or, like you said, tie the damn tubes. That's some ridiculous shit
And I just don't get why this person hasn't already! 4 times,thats just wrong! Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul | |
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Who are we talking about? Just some random woman you know who had four abortions in 12 months? Not that I want a name or anything; I just don't understand this thread.
That said, can I ask a genuine question: If one abortion is okay, what's wrong with multiple ones? I hear people saying that abortion as birth control is bad, but abortion is always birth control. So if a woman wants to do it multiple times, why is that worse than doing it once? And just to be clear, I'm pro-choice and have no problem with it. I'm just curious why there is a line drawn for some people. | |
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Efan said: Who are we talking about? Just some random woman you know who had four abortions in 12 months? Not that I want a name or anything; I just don't understand this thread.
That said, can I ask a genuine question: If one abortion is okay, what's wrong with multiple ones? I hear people saying that abortion as birth control is bad, but abortion is always birth control. So if a woman wants to do it multiple times, why is that worse than doing it once? And just to be clear, I'm pro-choice and have no problem with it. I'm just curious why there is a line drawn for some people. He asked if we thought it was excessive as he did, not if we thought it was right or wrong. | |
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Efan said: Who are we talking about? Just some random woman you know who had four abortions in 12 months? Not that I want a name or anything; I just don't understand this thread.
That said, can I ask a genuine question: If one abortion is okay, what's wrong with multiple ones? I hear people saying that abortion as birth control is bad, but abortion is always birth control. So if a woman wants to do it multiple times, why is that worse than doing it once? And just to be clear, I'm pro-choice and have no problem with it. I'm just curious why there is a line drawn for some people. No, abortion is not always birth control. Condoms aren't 100% all the time - if you tried to protect yourself & got pregnant anyway I can see having one if it's not the right time in your life to have a baby. But to have complete disregard for the possibility of pregnancy & use abortion as a fallback is irresponsible, crude & disgusting imo. It is NOT the same... | |
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excessive | |
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CalhounSq said: Efan said: Who are we talking about? Just some random woman you know who had four abortions in 12 months? Not that I want a name or anything; I just don't understand this thread.
That said, can I ask a genuine question: If one abortion is okay, what's wrong with multiple ones? I hear people saying that abortion as birth control is bad, but abortion is always birth control. So if a woman wants to do it multiple times, why is that worse than doing it once? And just to be clear, I'm pro-choice and have no problem with it. I'm just curious why there is a line drawn for some people. No, abortion is not always birth control. Condoms aren't 100% all the time - if you tried to protect yourself & got pregnant anyway I can see having one if it's not the right time in your life to have a baby. But to have complete disregard for the possibility of pregnancy & use abortion as a fallback is irresponsible, crude & disgusting imo. It is NOT the same... Girl needs some education at the very least. Pills vs surgery. The choice shouldn't be too hard 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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I don't really care if a woman wants to have an abortion a month. That is on her and her decision alone. | |
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JustErin said: Efan said: Who are we talking about? Just some random woman you know who had four abortions in 12 months? Not that I want a name or anything; I just don't understand this thread.
That said, can I ask a genuine question: If one abortion is okay, what's wrong with multiple ones? I hear people saying that abortion as birth control is bad, but abortion is always birth control. So if a woman wants to do it multiple times, why is that worse than doing it once? And just to be clear, I'm pro-choice and have no problem with it. I'm just curious why there is a line drawn for some people. He asked if we thought it was excessive as he did, not if we thought it was right or wrong. But excessive would imply wrong, wouldn't it? | |
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CalhounSq said: Efan said: Who are we talking about? Just some random woman you know who had four abortions in 12 months? Not that I want a name or anything; I just don't understand this thread.
That said, can I ask a genuine question: If one abortion is okay, what's wrong with multiple ones? I hear people saying that abortion as birth control is bad, but abortion is always birth control. So if a woman wants to do it multiple times, why is that worse than doing it once? And just to be clear, I'm pro-choice and have no problem with it. I'm just curious why there is a line drawn for some people. No, abortion is not always birth control. Condoms aren't 100% all the time - if you tried to protect yourself & got pregnant anyway I can see having one if it's not the right time in your life to have a baby. But to have complete disregard for the possibility of pregnancy & use abortion as a fallback is irresponsible, crude & disgusting imo. It is NOT the same... I just meant that abortion prevents birth and therefore is birth control. Condoms are contraception. | |
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This'll be going to P&R with the quickness. Sorry if I jacked the thread. I really didn't mean to. | |
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Efan said: JustErin said: He asked if we thought it was excessive as he did, not if we thought it was right or wrong. But excessive would imply wrong, wouldn't it? No. | |
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Efan said: Who are we talking about? Just some random woman you know who had four abortions in 12 months? Not that I want a name or anything; I just don't understand this thread.
That said, can I ask a genuine question: If one abortion is okay, what's wrong with multiple ones? I hear people saying that abortion as birth control is bad, but abortion is always birth control. So if a woman wants to do it multiple times, why is that worse than doing it once? And just to be clear, I'm pro-choice and have no problem with it. I'm just curious why there is a line drawn for some people. I think this is a good question. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Efan said: CalhounSq said: No, abortion is not always birth control. Condoms aren't 100% all the time - if you tried to protect yourself & got pregnant anyway I can see having one if it's not the right time in your life to have a baby. But to have complete disregard for the possibility of pregnancy & use abortion as a fallback is irresponsible, crude & disgusting imo. It is NOT the same... I just meant that abortion prevents birth and therefore is birth control. Condoms are contraception. I don't wanna get into semantics here - if you think 1 abortion is equivalent to 20 abortions, that's great. I think a woman who approaches abortion as blithely as that has a problem. | |
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JustErin said: Efan said: But excessive would imply wrong, wouldn't it? No. I guess I don't understand what you're saying. Are you saying excessive is a good thing in this case? | |
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Efan said: JustErin said: No. I guess I don't understand what you're saying. Are you saying excessive is a good thing in this case? No, I'm not saying that either. I never said it was good or bad. | |
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Just to reposition Efan's question, at what number is an abortion in, say, 12 months "excessive?"
There seems to be a general agreement here so far (albeit not unanimous) that four is too much. How about three? Two? One? I guess the point is that the arbitrariness of the number suggests there may be other "excessive-making" factors around our varied opinions on abortion. I'm curious to know what some of them are. [Edited 3/18/09 12:25pm] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Efan said: JustErin said: He asked if we thought it was excessive as he did, not if we thought it was right or wrong. But excessive would imply wrong, wouldn't it? No, just putting oneself at risk | |
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mdiver said: Efan said: But excessive would imply wrong, wouldn't it? No, just putting oneself at risk Okay, but somehow I don't think a lot of the people answering the question are going to concerned about the woman's health. | |
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Efan said: mdiver said: No, just putting oneself at risk Okay, but somehow I don't think a lot of the people answering the question are going to concerned about the woman's health. That is up to you if you wish to draw that judgement. | |
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mdiver said: Efan said: Okay, but somehow I don't think a lot of the people answering the question are going to concerned about the woman's health. That is up to you if you wish to draw that judgement. | |
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Lammastide said: Just to reposition Efan's question, at what number is an abortion in, say, 12 months "excessive?"
There seems to be a general agreement here so far (albeit not unanimous) that four is too much. How about three? Two? One? I guess the point is that the arbitrariness of the number suggests there may be other "excessive-making" factors around our varied opinions on abortion. I'm curious to know what some of them are. Any more than 1 in 12 months is excessive. Any more than 1 in 3 years is excessive to me. | |
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