Lammastide said:

who ever is bound by the lasso has no free will and answers only to the person holding it. Storm wouldn't stand a chance. Especially if Diana got mad and decided to lay the smack down. In the DCU only Superman is stronger than Diana.


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ehuffnsd said:

But Storm has shown uncanny resistance to psionic control and a constitution strong enough to host the essence of not just the gods of any random pantheon, but of Eternity -- the sum of all that is! Even if all twelve Olympians plus Gaia, a Titan, had given WW 100% of their powers, I still don't think she'd necessarily be a match for a being who could harbor the presence of Chaos (if we stuck to a Hellenist cosmology) itself!

So there!
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the person holding it [lasso].

Lammastide said:

When did Storm become Phoenix lite?

ehuffnsd said:

You got me I haven't read the books in a long time. I got the Eternity thing from Storm's Wiki page. ...And if she's an Omega-level mutant, who knows how powerful Marvel intends her to be?

But again, I think it's silly to have SUCH powerful heroes. The thrill of the books to me (especially the mutant books) had been that while powerful, these characters were still people... and could die.

ehuffnsd said:

You got me I haven't read the books in a long time. I got the Eternity thing from Storm's Wiki page. ...And if she's an Omega-level mutant, who knows how powerful Marvel intends her to be?

But again, I think it's silly to have SUCH powerful heroes. The thrill of the books to me (especially the mutant books) had been that while powerful, these characters were still people... and could die.

ehuffnsd said:

Could the lasso be taken from Diana and/or be used by anyone?

And who are we kidding? Let's face it: Wonder Woman is a Lesbian ...and Storm has this whole "earth mother" thing going. If they met, they'd easily consider one-another "sister" and go off to braid one-another's hair and say mean stuff about the chauvinist males on their respective teams..

Lammastide said:

Dr Strange and the Phoenix i thought were the only characters that operated on their own rules, now it seems everyone in the Marvel Universe is Godlike.

Howard the Duck would plant his webbed feet in both their asses....

The character to me that was the most insanely powerful to the point of annoyance... at least in some incarnations... was Batman... I mean, sometimes Batman is shown to be so insanely intelligent that he can do anything...

And who are we kidding? Let's face it: Wonder Woman is a Lesbian

Lammastide said:

I believe it was nominated for an Emmy for this performance...

errant said:

Isn't it funny, though, how the costume hasn't aged so well? Those bottoms look like an incontinence garment now.

coolcat said:

Lammastide said:

WW's comic-book costume would look real stupid on the big screen. She would definitely need a make-over. Is Joss Whedon still involved with the WW movie?

uPtoWnNY said:

I'm not sure who is slated to be WW on screen. But, yes, her costume is in for a MAJOR refresh! Not only would it look embarrassingly cheesy, but it'd be an intolerable T&A show for a film kids would flock to see.

At the same time, though, her costume is iconic. Whoever updates it will have generations of comic geeks to appease.

Both DC and Marvel have been cranking up the powers of too many of their best characters to the point where they're effectively all godlike. How BORING! Where's the drama in invulnerability?

That said, in their original iterations, I think Storm would have blasted WW into little chunks of smoldering Amazon flesh. Ororo's near-divinity with regard to the elements had been flirted with since day one, with her weather-controlling ability simply being either the key manifestation of it or a separate mutant ability on top of it altogether. Diana, on the other hand, wasn't initially meant to be anything near a Greek goddess, but rather just an exceptional member of an exceptional race of Amazons, gifted by the Olympians with enhanced traits. Sure, she was extraordinarily smart, moral, physically adept, empathic, in tuned with nature... powerful in the sense of the idealized female -- but she wasn't depths-of-space- or warp-core-explosion-surviving powerful. Nowadays, the fight might be too close to call.

Part of the problem, I think, is that Marvel has always executed its suspension of disbelief with a bit more forethought. I mean, as a kid I thought Marvel Universe's explanations of powers, genetic mutations, alternate realities, etc. read like Stephen Hawking! It was AWESOME! DC has always struck me first as a a teller of absurd modern-day fairy tales, only later backpeddling (a la Crisis on Infinite Earth) to flesh out the metaphysics and continuity of their ridiculous universe (and to make their characters more impressive) in the wake of Marvel's kicking their butts.
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Lammastide said:

Finally, someone who knows what they're talking about. Storm basically has a whole planet, AND space at her disposal. Sorry Diana...

ScarletScandal said:

Man, you guys are acting like Storm could take out Galactus, Dark Phoenix, and Darkseid all at once.

Efan said:

with Marvel, you'll never know. She might even be able to pimp slap God.

ScarletScandal said:

This debate aside, I really preferred Storm the way she was in her introduction in the '70s and for the next 10 or so years, when she could influence weather in just a small range. She was called a goddess in her native village, but Claremont went out of his way to show there were limits and it made her more heroic. Remember back in the day, almost every single battle the X-Men ever fought was to a draw? They really didn't kick all that much ass. But they were definitely heroic and fun to read, much more so than when the powers got so godlike.