XxAxX said:

Thank you! Damn, a voice of reason here. That case has been so maligned by quasi-intellects - it makes me furious. If a child orders a cup of "HOT" chocolate at a restaurant, severely scalding the child because the liquid was boiling hot, then you can bet your ass that I'd sue. And I'd win.

Do you know simply switching from a medium size value meal to a large or supersize doubles or triples the calories?

There are reasonable items to eat at pretty much all fast food restaraunts. If you go to McDonalds, order a quarter pounder no cheese and a small fry. Thats about 600 calories, and a reasonable amount from fat. To cut back on the cholesterol and fat, try a grilled chicken sandwich no mayo instead.

Is this rocket science? Hell no. Even without the exact numbers its pretty much common sense.

What are these people's arguments in court? That they have no common sense?

Since when are cheeseburgers and fries NOT fattening? Who honestly doesn't know this?

I could see a campaign to encourage fast food restaraunts to offer more healthier choices, but a lawsuit against a company for something thats really your own fault it absurd.

What do they plan on doing with the money if they were to win? Go buy a million dollars worth of Slim Fast and Metabolife then sue them because those didnt work either?

XxAxX said:

That is absurd! The bartender should not be responsible for a bar full of people and have to decide whether or not they have had too much or not. Who is to say who the drink is going to, unless the bartender is serving each and every person in the bar or restaurant? The bartender could also be under the impression that the patron is NOT driving and they drive away anyways.

Who is to say how much is too much for each individual person? One drink may be too much for some to function normally. Many alcoholics can also seem very "normal" and not looped, when in fact they are completely drunk off their ass.

As far as people who sue fast food restaurants, that I have heard of and it is completely ridiculous as well. We need to be more responsible for our own actions. It is our choice what we eat, whether or not we smoke, whether or not we do drugs and whether or not we drink or drink and know our limitations. Others should not be held responsible for our stupidity and lack of common sense.

IceNine said:

They list nutrition info inside next to the cash register...at least they do at Carl's Jr.

What McDonald's should be sued for is the claim that they are a "fast food" restaurant, but yet I end up waiting forever and a day to get through the line... just to get a tea and half the time they give me Hi-C.

The McDonald's by me is amazingly slow... it's insane.

McDonald's sucks ass.

2the9s said:

They make THE BEST tea though... if you can ever get it.

You mean I could be suing McDonalds or Qdoba's for my 30lbs weight gain in the past year?


Is there a lawyer in the house?

AzureStar said:

The reason many Dram Shop laws exist is because most drunks or their families who get sued after they strike someone with their car aren't able to pay-up after they lose the lawsuit--so they go looking for the next in line--the establishment who served the drinks, who normally have more $$.
I don't agree with the laws either, but i can see how the state would like to make sure the victims see some kind of compensation for their loss.
And, of course, politicians know there isn't a jury in the country who wouldn't award damages to someone getting run over by a reckless drunk driver.

I have one word to describe how i feel about FAT lawsuits.
RIGGODDAMNDICULOUS!!

ok in people theres an interview with that chick from ny...about how shes all suing them she said she "takes some of the blame" and they should tell people that its bad for them...im like ummm dang girl the food at MC donalds is all "fried" that should tell you something...and they have a chart at the counters i think...geez

Your not alone ice. It should be embarrasing to sue Mickey D's for being a mess. I would love to see the courtroom!

AzureStar said:

Its a little tricky with liquor. A coworker of mine wrecked his car and killed himself after leaving a local bar. His parents tried to sue the bar. The problem was, other people who were hitting on the guy that night kept going up to the bar and buying him drinks. The bartender had no way of knowing those drinks were actually for my coworker. So there no way they could have controlled that situation.

However, bars and restaraunts do push drinks in your face quite a bit.

When I worked at TGI Fridays, every day they would make us go over the different liquors and encourage us to sell as many ultimate drinks as we could. We even had contests to see who could sell the most. With stuff like this going on, our consideration for the customers safety took a back seat most of the time.

There were many nights I would not have gotten smashed had the bartender not started pouring free shots for everyone when I was already a little drunk and not in the best state of mind. Sometimes they will pour your drinks alot stronger; Anything to win you over and keep you coming back so they can make more tips. You could be sucking down something like a vodka and OJ thinking 2 or 3 is ok because thats your normal limit, but wind up way more smashed. People's judgement wanes on alcohol, and if a bar or bartender exploits that to make more money, disregarding that persons safety, no they are not 100% respobsible for that person getting injured, but they arent 100% guilt free either.

Okay, so my point was this:

You are responsible for your own actions... I don't give a fuck if you eat too much, drink too much, smoke too much or jack off until your cock is whittled down to a toothpick, it is your fault if something bad happens as a result of your actions.

The bartender serving too much alcohol example:

Drinking and driving is against the law, so you should not be driving after you leave the bar any-fucking-way. The bartender is not responsible for your dumb, drunk ass hopping into the car, willfully endangering your life and the lives of others with your stupidity.

People are always looking for someone to blame for their actions... I find it sad.


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[This message was edited Tue Dec 3 17:57:05 PST 2002 by IceNine]

I'm sueing ian over the next thread of mine that gets locked!

Boob said:

This will only be stupid if you make a topic that blatantly breaks org rules and flames Ben, the moderators and various org members... if it is 100% your fault, then and only then should you sue.

IceNine said:

It comes down to this. Most of us live in free societies, but with freedom of choice comes responsibility for those choices. Or something like that (!)

Weight gain is usually a lifestyle thing. Diet and exercise... does McDonalds force people to stop exercising, to drive a car instead of ride a bike?

What's needed in some of these silly litigation cases is for the court to turn the books and charge the phat phuks for wasting everybody's time and being opportunistic.

I agree with you Icenine.

This is the level of stupidity that our country has been reduced to by those money-hungry greasy lawyers. Our courts are hopelessly backed up because of such frivolous and retarded lawsuits. Did you know that some men have sued their parents for being circumscised?

It's all because there's more & more kids going to law school and less and less actual jobs for lawyers...so they need to keep themselves employed somehow. Some lawmakers have tried, unsuccessfully, to enact laws preventing trivial lawsuits. But guess what...the judges are all former lawyers themselves, so they keep the system going!

If you ask me, they should take those fat, stupid, lazy, tubs of lard that are suing McDonalds and lock 'em up in a big cage with the lawyers for about 2 weeks with no food...and let the fat fucks kill and eat the lawyers. Then you can throw the fat fucks in jail for murder.

Case closed.

I gotta agree

a little late for this topic
thas was news like 3 or 4 months ago when these lawsuits started up ...

and yes it is bloody ridiculous !

I can't stand that people are being trained to look the other way the minute something happens to them. Nobody wants to take responsibility for their shit - it's a damn shame, asses need to be kicked...

Ice I agree people should be held responsible 4 their own actions!
Even at the place where I work, do people point their finger at some1 else if they make a mistake, always trying 2 blame othes and get away with it! I hate that

IceNine said:

I would estimate about 90% of people who walk out of bars are over the legal limit and don't have a designated driver.
Think of the number of people at a bar on a typical night then multiply that times the number of bars in your area. Theres ALOT of drunk drivers on the road each night.