JerseyKRS said: I feel like my life is spent picking up after my kids. Food off the floor, papers, hell, you name it, they leave it.
It drives me absolutely batty. No matter how many times I ask them to clean up after themselves, they still go on about their day leaving messes for ME to clean up. It's enough to make me want to scream. I just don't get it. I went on strike not too long ago and stopped cleaning up after them and the house just looked like a mess. I don't know what else to do. i don't have kids but i do have a brother , i can't stand it, tried it all, nothing works and he ain't no kid, 21 in 2 weeks. [Edited 2/12/09 22:46pm] | |
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Lammastide said: I won't say I never do, but this may be one spot where I'm a jerk daddy...
Unless it's something very small, my general policy is if I see mess, I will ask only twice for my 8-year-old daughter to clean up after herself. The first time I allow her to do it at her leisure. If she sloughs it off, the second time she must immediately stop what she's doing -- sleeping, bathing, homework -- and clean up. That second time, if she misses something -- toys, clothes, whatever -- I will quite possibly throw it in the trash or give it away to some charity. I totally mean that. I am a way laid back father, but a lingering mess can literally depress me or erode my ability to think straight. Yeah, that's me too. I refuse to clean up after my daughter. I mean, I'll clean everything, but she is responsible for her mess. | |
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PaisleyPark5083 said: I have 4 kids, 25,15,11 and 5. They each have chores to do, each one is responsible for certain jobs, after they are done. I go in and clean it to my standard. Works for us.
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I have to admit, I don't get this. When I was a kid, if we left stuff lying around, it was gone. My mother would put it in a box and hide it...and we had to pay to get it back.
I had my first "job" when I was 6 - folding diapers and washing bottles for my baby sister. My other sisters started at 5 - emptying all the wastebaskets in the house. We vacuumed and dusted, cleaned the kitchen, cleaned bathrooms - in addition to cleaning our rooms and doing our own ironing. My mom started teaching us at 6 - we started with my dad's handkerchiefs, graduated to pillowcases, and then were taught to iron clothing. Parents today are wusses. They let their kids run the house and the kids know it. All they have to do is pitch a fit and they're off the hook. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: Parents today are wusses. They let their kids run the house and the kids know it. All they have to do is pitch a fit and they're off the hook. perhaps "some" parents are I am quite the militant bitch myself - TY very much | |
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Genesia said: I have to admit, I don't get this. When I was a kid, if we left stuff lying around, it was gone. My mother would put it in a box and hide it...and we had to pay to get it back.
I had my first "job" when I was 6 - folding diapers and washing bottles for my baby sister. My other sisters started at 5 - emptying all the wastebaskets in the house. We vacuumed and dusted, cleaned the kitchen, cleaned bathrooms - in addition to cleaning our rooms and doing our own ironing. My mom started teaching us at 6 - we started with my dad's handkerchiefs, graduated to pillowcases, and then were taught to iron clothing. Parents today are wusses. They let their kids run the house and the kids know it. All they have to do is pitch a fit and they're off the hook. Well, good for you. I wasn't treated as an adult at age 5 and as a result of that I don't keep a messy home as an adult. In fact my place is pretty spotless. Not sure the way you were raised in that regard was any better (or worse) then the way I was. | |
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I have quite a few kids-teens. They all are different. One is obsessed with keeping her room clean. She got the bedroom right off of our living room for obvious reasons. I don't clean up after them, but I work 10x as hard getting them to clean up behind themselves. My husband thinks their brains turn to mush at this age. You have the same rules in your house everyday for their entire life. But, they still don't do what was expected without being asked several times. Then, they have an attitide about being yelled at.
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JustErin said: Genesia said: I have to admit, I don't get this. When I was a kid, if we left stuff lying around, it was gone. My mother would put it in a box and hide it...and we had to pay to get it back.
I had my first "job" when I was 6 - folding diapers and washing bottles for my baby sister. My other sisters started at 5 - emptying all the wastebaskets in the house. We vacuumed and dusted, cleaned the kitchen, cleaned bathrooms - in addition to cleaning our rooms and doing our own ironing. My mom started teaching us at 6 - we started with my dad's handkerchiefs, graduated to pillowcases, and then were taught to iron clothing. Parents today are wusses. They let their kids run the house and the kids know it. All they have to do is pitch a fit and they're off the hook. Well, good for you. I wasn't treated as an adult at age 5 and as a result of that I don't keep a messy home as an adult. In fact my place is pretty spotless. Not sure the way you were raised in that regard was any better (or worse) then the way I was. How do you figure having responsibilities as a child makes you grow up to be a slob? We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: JustErin said: Well, good for you. I wasn't treated as an adult at age 5 and as a result of that I don't keep a messy home as an adult. In fact my place is pretty spotless. Not sure the way you were raised in that regard was any better (or worse) then the way I was. How do you figure having responsibilities as a child makes you grow up to be a slob? Um, I was talking specifically about cleaning and chores. | |
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This is why I'm NEVER having children, in my house this is as bad as it gets:
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JustErin said: Genesia said: How do you figure having responsibilities as a child makes you grow up to be a slob? Um, I was talking specifically about cleaning and chores. Okay, so...having to help clean the house as a kid makes you grow up to be a slob? I still don't see the connection. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: JustErin said: Um, I was talking specifically about cleaning and chores. Okay, so...having to help clean the house as a kid makes you grow up to be a slob? I still don't see the connection. Huh? Where do you get that? I'm totally confused now. I said that you were made to do chores at 5 and I was not and the end result was the same...unless your house is a mess - which mine is not. | |
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JustErin said: Genesia said: Okay, so...having to help clean the house as a kid makes you grow up to be a slob? I still don't see the connection. Huh? Where do you get that? I'm totally confused now. I said that you were made to do chores at 5 and I was not and the end result was the same...unless your house is a mess - which mine is not. No...you said, "I wasn't treated as an adult at age 5 and as a result of that I don't keep a messy home as an adult." Like the fact that you didn't do chores as a child is the reason you keep a clean house now (which is what "as a result of that" means). By necessity, everybody who did have to do chores would have had a different result - the obvious one being that they are now slobs. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: JustErin said: Huh? Where do you get that? I'm totally confused now. I said that you were made to do chores at 5 and I was not and the end result was the same...unless your house is a mess - which mine is not. No...you said, "I wasn't treated as an adult at age 5 and as a result of that I don't keep a messy home as an adult." Like the fact that you didn't do chores as a child is the reason you keep a clean house now (which is what "as a result of that" means). By necessity, everybody who did have to do chores would have had a different result - the obvious one being that they are now slobs. Weird interpretation. The same could be said about your original rant. That you were treated like a little mini adult and therefore are somehow better than the kids today being raised by parents who are "pussies". Besides, "Not sure the way you were raised in that regard was any better (or worse) then the way I was." pretty much states that I didn't think the way you're raised on this made much difference. | |
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JustErin said: Genesia said: No...you said, "I wasn't treated as an adult at age 5 and as a result of that I don't keep a messy home as an adult." Like the fact that you didn't do chores as a child is the reason you keep a clean house now (which is what "as a result of that" means). By necessity, everybody who did have to do chores would have had a different result - the obvious one being that they are now slobs. Weird interpretation. The same could be said about your original rant. That you were treated like a little mini adult and therefore are somehow better than the kids today being raised by parents who are "pussies". Besides, "Not sure the way you were raised in that regard was any better (or worse) then the way I was." pretty much states that I didn't think the way you're raised on this made much difference. I didn't call anyone a "pussy." We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: JustErin said: Weird interpretation. The same could be said about your original rant. That you were treated like a little mini adult and therefore are somehow better than the kids today being raised by parents who are "pussies". Besides, "Not sure the way you were raised in that regard was any better (or worse) then the way I was." pretty much states that I didn't think the way you're raised on this made much difference. I didn't call anyone a "pussy." "Wusses" I meant "wusses"! Oops. Guess my one track mind got in the way again. I swear your cyber eyes must be killing you with all the eye rolling you do. [Edited 2/13/09 10:50am] | |
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Genesia said: I have to admit, I don't get this. When I was a kid, if we left stuff lying around, it was gone. My mother would put it in a box and hide it...and we had to pay to get it back.
I had my first "job" when I was 6 - folding diapers and washing bottles for my baby sister. My other sisters started at 5 - emptying all the wastebaskets in the house. We vacuumed and dusted, cleaned the kitchen, cleaned bathrooms - in addition to cleaning our rooms and doing our own ironing. My mom started teaching us at 6 - we started with my dad's handkerchiefs, graduated to pillowcases, and then were taught to iron clothing. Parents today are wusses. They let their kids run the house and the kids know it. All they have to do is pitch a fit and they're off the hook. We do all that. At one point, I was throwing things away daily, in the garbage, not in a box. All four kids clean the house REGULARLY, yet they still leave detritus in their wake. We are FAR from wusses. | |
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JerseyKRS said: Genesia said: I have to admit, I don't get this. When I was a kid, if we left stuff lying around, it was gone. My mother would put it in a box and hide it...and we had to pay to get it back.
I had my first "job" when I was 6 - folding diapers and washing bottles for my baby sister. My other sisters started at 5 - emptying all the wastebaskets in the house. We vacuumed and dusted, cleaned the kitchen, cleaned bathrooms - in addition to cleaning our rooms and doing our own ironing. My mom started teaching us at 6 - we started with my dad's handkerchiefs, graduated to pillowcases, and then were taught to iron clothing. Parents today are wusses. They let their kids run the house and the kids know it. All they have to do is pitch a fit and they're off the hook. We do all that. At one point, I was throwing things away daily, in the garbage, not in a box. All four kids clean the house REGULARLY, yet they still leave detritus in their wake. We are FAR from wusses. Pussies, Chris. Pussies. | |
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We need jellow....or mud | |
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mdiver said: We need jellow....or mud
I think it's Jell-O...? | |
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mdiver said: We need jellow....or mud
...and a little less self-righteousness. | |
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JustErin said: mdiver said: We need jellow....or mud
I think it's Jell-O...? I dunno we call it jelly here | |
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violator said: mdiver said: We need jellow....or mud
...and a little less self-righteousness. Heehee... | |
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