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Reply #30 posted 01/27/09 5:35pm

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Natisse said:

Graycap23 said:

If u suddenly found yourself unemployed, do u have a plan?
What would u do?


I'm in that situation right now, and all you have to do is just keep going... there's nothing else to do. forget week to week, I'm pretty much living day to day right now. I have exactly one week before I get money again (from the government, unemployment benefit I'm embarrassed to say) and because of the cost of living in Sydney basically I'm left with nothing. I have about 70c left in my wallet and a bit of food that will have to last me a week.

That will change soon, though, I will MAKE it change...

aww hun, sorry to hear that hug
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Reply #31 posted 01/27/09 6:25pm

Natisse

prb said:

Graycap23 said:

The rule of thumb is that people should have 6 to 12 months of living expenses saved up and at their disposal. That seems unrealistic given the monthly demands on most people's income.

i live week to week, always a bill to pay sigh

when i finish up at my current job in march, i will get part long service payout, so that should help... 4 a while


looking 4 a job when the rugrat goes back to school next mth.

but im networking while at work:woot:

a customer who i have helped 4 many yrs told me today i could put her name down as a reference, touched im holding her to that lol


getting references from all of our sales reps


and if all else fails, i have arthritis, dodgy discs in the back and an anxiety disorder.

i might qualify 4 assistance ....


but i would much rather stay in employment


i havent been unemployed 4 22 yrs

and in that time i have only had 2 jobs. the second (current) one i didnt even look 4, right place, right time.


im scared boxed


sad you'll be ok hon, hang in there hug you know where I am if you need to talk xoxo
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Reply #32 posted 01/27/09 6:35pm

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Anxiety said:

i've never been on unemployment before, so it would be a shock to the system but i think i'd use the situation as a chance to re-strategize how i go about making a living. right now i am very comfortable, but not very happy with what i do. it's hard to walk away from my job because the pay and benefits are great and the workload is just tolerable enough for me to keep coming back to it every day. but if i found myself laid off, i think i'd use it as an opportunity to make myself re-imagine my life without some of the creature comforts i'm used to, and to maybe aim for some more creative/idealistic ways of earning a living, even if it means i have to cut corners like crazy.

i guess what i'm saying is, i'd try to find a bright side to it. lol



I wanna be like you Anx. woot!



no you don't, i have dandruff. sad

anyway, i know i'd be freaking out about finances if that happened, but it wouldn't break my heart. i would not miss the work i do, i would not miss where i work and i would not miss the people i work with. it would be a crisis, but at the same time there would be an element of freedom to it. i wouldn't have a hard time finding that open window next to the shut door. lol
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Reply #33 posted 01/27/09 7:55pm

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Natisse said:

prb said:


i live week to week, always a bill to pay sigh

when i finish up at my current job in march, i will get part long service payout, so that should help... 4 a while


looking 4 a job when the rugrat goes back to school next mth.

but im networking while at work:woot:

a customer who i have helped 4 many yrs told me today i could put her name down as a reference, touched im holding her to that lol


getting references from all of our sales reps


and if all else fails, i have arthritis, dodgy discs in the back and an anxiety disorder.

i might qualify 4 assistance ....


but i would much rather stay in employment


i havent been unemployed 4 22 yrs

and in that time i have only had 2 jobs. the second (current) one i didnt even look 4, right place, right time.


im scared boxed


sad you'll be ok hon, hang in there hug you know where I am if you need to talk xoxo

u 2 sweetie smile
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Reply #34 posted 01/27/09 8:23pm

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Graycap23 said:

The rule of thumb is that people should have 6 to 12 months of living expenses saved up and at their disposal. That seems unrealistic given the monthly demands on most people's income.


3 to 6 should be fine.

And there's no reason why most people can't have that amount saved up, other than irresponsibility.
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Reply #35 posted 01/27/09 8:31pm

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truefunksoldier said:

Graycap23 said:

The rule of thumb is that people should have 6 to 12 months of living expenses saved up and at their disposal. That seems unrealistic given the monthly demands on most people's income.


3 to 6 should be fine.

And there's no reason why most people can't have that amount saved up, other than irresponsibility.


we kept the newspaper from the day my son was born, 10 yrs ago.

wages havent increased by much, but rentals have skyrocketed.

and this was b4 our country introduced a GST disbelief


id love to save, but cant sigh
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Reply #36 posted 01/27/09 8:39pm

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truefunksoldier said:

Graycap23 said:

The rule of thumb is that people should have 6 to 12 months of living expenses saved up and at their disposal. That seems unrealistic given the monthly demands on most people's income.


3 to 6 should be fine.

And there's no reason why most people can't have that amount saved up, other than irresponsibility.


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Reply #37 posted 01/27/09 8:44pm

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prb said:

truefunksoldier said:



3 to 6 should be fine.

And there's no reason why most people can't have that amount saved up, other than irresponsibility.


we kept the newspaper from the day my son was born, 10 yrs ago.

wages havent increased by much, but rentals have skyrocketed.

and this was b4 our country introduced a GST disbelief


id love to save, but cant sigh


that's actually very interesting geek and very maddening
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Reply #38 posted 01/27/09 8:59pm

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CarrieMpls said:

Graycap23 said:

The rule of thumb is that people should have 6 to 12 months of living expenses saved up and at their disposal. That seems unrealistic given the monthly demands on most people's income.


For a year and a half I have been trying to save 3 months salary and I'm still at just over half a month. Something always comes up.

confused


Doesn't it, though? mad
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Reply #39 posted 01/27/09 9:01pm

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I'm filing for unemployment tomorrow because I'm between jobs and because of school, I gotta pay fees soon
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Reply #40 posted 01/27/09 10:07pm

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My husband has been a saver since the first day I met him. Even when he was single and had no responsibilities, living at home with his parents, he saved a percent of his pay check. He continues that to this day, it is his obsession to save atleast part of his paycheck "for a rainy day" It is always been me who wanted to spend spend spend, thank god he never let go of his obsession with saving. Because of that, we have always had a nest egg. Now, in these scary times I am thankful for him, not giving in to my ways. heart
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Reply #41 posted 01/28/09 2:04am

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PaisleyPark5083 said:

My husband has been a saver since the first day I met him. Even when he was single and had no responsibilities, living at home with his parents, he saved a percent of his pay check. He continues that to this day, it is his obsession to save atleast part of his paycheck "for a rainy day" It is always been me who wanted to spend spend spend, thank god he never let go of his obsession with saving. Because of that, we have always had a nest egg. Now, in these scary times I am thankful for him, not giving in to my ways. heart



I've always saved as well. I'm doing reasonably well now, but I've certainly had times in my life (like everybody else) where things were very lean for me, and even then I always saved at least 10% of my net pay. I know there's a multitude of factors that play into what people can save, but I really do get confused I hear so many people say they can't save anything. I may get my head torn off for this, but to me it just comes down to discipline. I monitor my incoming & outgoing cash very closely & try to ensure I save at least 60% of my net pay every four weeks. If I don't make that figure (not including unexpected emergency expenditures), then I cut back next month. It may be a dreary way to live, but it pays dividends.
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Reply #42 posted 01/28/09 2:26am

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After surviving a RIF this past summer, if there's anything good to come from our economy hitting the shits, those petty things that wore me out day to day at work now mean nothing to me, I'm just thankful to be where I'm at. My employer is refraining from bonuses this year, and likely raises, but I'm not really sulking about it because they're securing our jobs in the long run.
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Reply #43 posted 01/28/09 2:46am

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What i do now is not what i trained to do, if i lost the company (God forbid because we have built for a rainy day within the business) i would still have 2 trades i could fall back on, either electrical design engineering (MIEE) or i could go really old skool and pick up my tool box and go contracting. I have before and i can again.
Since i started work i have not had 1 single day unemployed, dont get me wrong i have lost jobs but i ALWAYS was working the next day. I take my responsibility to provide VERY seriously.
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Reply #44 posted 01/28/09 4:47am

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damosuzuki said:

PaisleyPark5083 said:

My husband has been a saver since the first day I met him. Even when he was single and had no responsibilities, living at home with his parents, he saved a percent of his pay check. He continues that to this day, it is his obsession to save atleast part of his paycheck "for a rainy day" It is always been me who wanted to spend spend spend, thank god he never let go of his obsession with saving. Because of that, we have always had a nest egg. Now, in these scary times I am thankful for him, not giving in to my ways. heart



I've always saved as well. I'm doing reasonably well now, but I've certainly had times in my life (like everybody else) where things were very lean for me, and even then I always saved at least 10% of my net pay. I know there's a multitude of factors that play into what people can save, but I really do get confused I hear so many people say they can't save anything. I may get my head torn off for this, but to me it just comes down to discipline. I monitor my incoming & outgoing cash very closely & try to ensure I save at least 60% of my net pay every four weeks. If I don't make that figure (not including unexpected emergency expenditures), then I cut back next month. It may be a dreary way to live, but it pays dividends.
[Edited 1/28/09 2:21am]


I think there are a lot of reasons. Some of us were never taught to save. It can be as simple as that. lol My parents to this day have money problems on occasion and my mother borrows money from me from time to time. I don't know what will happen when they hit retirement and are on a fixed income, but there you have it. confused I just got a savings account for the first time about a year and a half ago.

And 60% of your pay goes into savings??? You must make a lot of money, have a low standard of living where you are, or both. I simply could not get by on 40% of my income. 30% goes to rent alone and that's not uncommon (though last year at this time it was closer to 35-38%, I got a promotion this year). I've been putting 5% of pre-tax pay into 401k since I was 21 (which my company matches, so that's nice, but I lost a third of what I had in there this year sad ). Over the last year and up until the promotion, I was putting away an additional 5% each month in that savings account, I'm now putting 10% away, but as I stated above, something always comes up.
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Reply #45 posted 01/28/09 6:19am

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JustErin said:

truefunksoldier said:



3 to 6 should be fine.

And there's no reason why most people can't have that amount saved up, other than irresponsibility.


falloff


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Reply #46 posted 01/28/09 7:10am

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PaisleyPark5083 said:

My husband has been a saver since the first day I met him. Even when he was single and had no responsibilities, living at home with his parents, he saved a percent of his pay check. He continues that to this day, it is his obsession to save atleast part of his paycheck "for a rainy day" It is always been me who wanted to spend spend spend, thank god he never let go of his obsession with saving. Because of that, we have always had a nest egg. Now, in these scary times I am thankful for him, not giving in to my ways. heart


Your husband is a very wise man to save a percent of his paycheck like that, because some people don't. When they lose their jobs, or an emergency situation comes up and they need money, they don't have funds to pay for it. So they wind up charging it, and have to pay not only what they charged, but also interest as well. Been there, done that, it's not a good situation to be in. Luckily, I don't charge much anymore, only what I know I can afford to pay. When the bill comes, I pay it off in full. Learned my lesson the hard way.
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #47 posted 01/28/09 7:11am

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Anxiety said:

JerseyKRS said:




I wanna be like you Anx. woot!



no you don't, i have dandruff. sad


lol Didn't mean to laugh, but that made me chuckle.
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #48 posted 01/28/09 7:48am

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Not looking for pity but I've been since the first week in January. I've been relaxing and slowly getting the resumé together.

As Apples has already said, it's tough times where I live so my plan (like hers) is to leave the state if I can't find a job. I'm giving it a few months, we'll see, I've got multiple abilities that's why I found it odd that I would be let go first.


hug Sorry to hear, Chris. If you need any networking help, please let me know.
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Reply #49 posted 01/28/09 7:52am

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My plan was to go on unemployment, look for another job and draw on my 401K if I had to. A couple of months ago, back when all those banks started going under, my job said they have put a freeze on all 401Ks until 2011. Now I have to come up with another plan. sigh
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Reply #50 posted 01/28/09 7:55am

Graycap23

JuliePurplehead said:

My plan was to go on unemployment, look for another job and draw on my 401K if I had to. A couple of months ago, back when all those banks started going under, my job said they have put a freeze on all 401Ks until 2011. Now I have to come up with another plan. sigh

A freeze on contributions but if u are let go, u can get that money.
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Reply #51 posted 01/28/09 7:57am

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truefunksoldier said:

JustErin said:



falloff


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I'm laughing at what you said.
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Reply #52 posted 01/28/09 9:24am

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damosuzuki said:

PaisleyPark5083 said:

My husband has been a saver since the first day I met him. Even when he was single and had no responsibilities, living at home with his parents, he saved a percent of his pay check. He continues that to this day, it is his obsession to save atleast part of his paycheck "for a rainy day" It is always been me who wanted to spend spend spend, thank god he never let go of his obsession with saving. Because of that, we have always had a nest egg. Now, in these scary times I am thankful for him, not giving in to my ways. heart



I've always saved as well. I'm doing reasonably well now, but I've certainly had times in my life (like everybody else) where things were very lean for me, and even then I always saved at least 10% of my net pay. I know there's a multitude of factors that play into what people can save, but I really do get confused I hear so many people say they can't save anything. I may get my head torn off for this, but to me it just comes down to discipline. I monitor my incoming & outgoing cash very closely & try to ensure I save at least 60% of my net pay every four weeks. If I don't make that figure (not including unexpected emergency expenditures), then I cut back next month. It may be a dreary way to live, but it pays dividends.
[Edited 1/28/09 2:21am]


Congrats on being a saver also! I wish I could take the credit for our nest egg, but it is because of my husband.
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Reply #53 posted 01/28/09 9:29am

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CarrieMpls said:

damosuzuki said:




I've always saved as well. I'm doing reasonably well now, but I've certainly had times in my life (like everybody else) where things were very lean for me, and even then I always saved at least 10% of my net pay. I know there's a multitude of factors that play into what people can save, but I really do get confused I hear so many people say they can't save anything. I may get my head torn off for this, but to me it just comes down to discipline. I monitor my incoming & outgoing cash very closely & try to ensure I save at least 60% of my net pay every four weeks. If I don't make that figure (not including unexpected emergency expenditures), then I cut back next month. It may be a dreary way to live, but it pays dividends.
[Edited 1/28/09 2:21am]


I think there are a lot of reasons. Some of us were never taught to save. It can be as simple as that. lol My parents to this day have money problems on occasion and my mother borrows money from me from time to time. I don't know what will happen when they hit retirement and are on a fixed income, but there you have it. confused I just got a savings account for the first time about a year and a half ago.

And 60% of your pay goes into savings??? You must make a lot of money, have a low standard of living where you are, or both. I simply could not get by on 40% of my income. 30% goes to rent alone and that's not uncommon (though last year at this time it was closer to 35-38%, I got a promotion this year). I've been putting 5% of pre-tax pay into 401k since I was 21 (which my company matches, so that's nice, but I lost a third of what I had in there this year sad ). Over the last year and up until the promotion, I was putting away an additional 5% each month in that savings account, I'm now putting 10% away, but as I stated above, something always comes up.



It is as simple as that, some people have not been taught to save. My husband came from a very very poor childhood. He was dirt poor as a very young child in Mexico, with a family of 8! As he grew up, he had a plan, he worked 2 jobs, and started saving. All of his siblings are like this also, they never charge a thing, pay cash for everything. And live below their means. Thank god my son was born with the same saving gene, he is 25, and has himself a nice little nest egg.
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Reply #54 posted 01/28/09 9:30am

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I don't know if it's been said but I've been temping for over 2 years now and even though I don't have vacation time with this or benefits, I need to pay the bills and I recommend temping as something you can do till you find a permanent job. For all you know, that temp job may become permanent.

I also found that its best to ask for "Temp-to-Perm" jobs better in case I liked the job and they liked me. It would be a win-win situation.
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Reply #55 posted 01/28/09 9:30am

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psychodelicide said:

PaisleyPark5083 said:

My husband has been a saver since the first day I met him. Even when he was single and had no responsibilities, living at home with his parents, he saved a percent of his pay check. He continues that to this day, it is his obsession to save atleast part of his paycheck "for a rainy day" It is always been me who wanted to spend spend spend, thank god he never let go of his obsession with saving. Because of that, we have always had a nest egg. Now, in these scary times I am thankful for him, not giving in to my ways. heart


Your husband is a very wise man to save a percent of his paycheck like that, because some people don't. When they lose their jobs, or an emergency situation comes up and they need money, they don't have funds to pay for it. So they wind up charging it, and have to pay not only what they charged, but also interest as well. Been there, done that, it's not a good situation to be in. Luckily, I don't charge much anymore, only what I know I can afford to pay. When the bill comes, I pay it off in full. Learned my lesson the hard way.



We never charge anything, his number one rule. If we can't pay cash, we can't afford it.
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Reply #56 posted 01/28/09 9:42am

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CarrieMpls said:

damosuzuki said:




I've always saved as well. I'm doing reasonably well now, but I've certainly had times in my life (like everybody else) where things were very lean for me, and even then I always saved at least 10% of my net pay. I know there's a multitude of factors that play into what people can save, but I really do get confused I hear so many people say they can't save anything. I may get my head torn off for this, but to me it just comes down to discipline. I monitor my incoming & outgoing cash very closely & try to ensure I save at least 60% of my net pay every four weeks. If I don't make that figure (not including unexpected emergency expenditures), then I cut back next month. It may be a dreary way to live, but it pays dividends.
[Edited 1/28/09 2:21am]


I think there are a lot of reasons. Some of us were never taught to save. It can be as simple as that. lol My parents to this day have money problems on occasion and my mother borrows money from me from time to time. I don't know what will happen when they hit retirement and are on a fixed income, but there you have it. confused I just got a savings account for the first time about a year and a half ago.

And 60% of your pay goes into savings??? You must make a lot of money, have a low standard of living where you are, or both. I simply could not get by on 40% of my income. 30% goes to rent alone and that's not uncommon (though last year at this time it was closer to 35-38%, I got a promotion this year). I've been putting 5% of pre-tax pay into 401k since I was 21 (which my company matches, so that's nice, but I lost a third of what I had in there this year sad ). Over the last year and up until the promotion, I was putting away an additional 5% each month in that savings account, I'm now putting 10% away, but as I stated above, something always comes up.


This really made me look at where my money is going. 50% of my income goes to what I consider absolute necessities - rent, phone, internet, electric, netflix (as I don't have cable), and groceries. About 10% goes towards paying off a loan I have (maybe a bit more, I pay more than the minimum) and 10% goes in to savings. That leaves me around 30% of my income on everything else including clothing, shoes, housewares, travel, eating out, CDs, going to the movies, etc.

I can't even afford a car. Or, I could, but goodbye everything else.

I'm not a material person and do NOT have a lot in the way of posessions, and I'm quite frugal with what I DO have. I just bought an iPod for the first time this week. lol I play music at home on my cheapie dvd player through my tv speakers and through my laptop. I only eat out maybe twice a week if that and again, I'm fairly frugal.

And yet with the amount of money I make, I'd be considered pretty well off for a woman my age who's not a college graduate.

This is not to say I couldn't get by with less, only to illustrate, many of us simply don't have the income to put it away and live any kind of comfortable life.
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Reply #57 posted 01/28/09 9:57am

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prb said:

truefunksoldier said:



3 to 6 should be fine.

And there's no reason why most people can't have that amount saved up, other than irresponsibility.


we kept the newspaper from the day my son was born, 10 yrs ago.

wages havent increased by much, but rentals have skyrocketed.

and this was b4 our country introduced a GST disbelief


id love to save, but cant sigh


rentals & home prices. That's part of why the real estate market tanked, because if wages don't increase at the same rate, who will be able to afford houses?

You can give credit, but it has to be payed at some point. If people don't make as much money as they are spending it just can't work.

But I do agree that most of us could be more responsible, and save something.
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Reply #58 posted 01/28/09 10:47am

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JustErin said:

truefunksoldier said:



??


I'm laughing at what you said.


Why's that?
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Reply #59 posted 01/28/09 11:01am

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truefunksoldier said:

JustErin said:



I'm laughing at what you said.


Why's that?


Because I think what you said was stupid.
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