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Printablep.s. when did the GGs become so dammned important. most people watch movies on cable or rent DVDs. people too busy worrying about their jobs rather than who won what at what award show. and I will take Will Smiths money and fame over some dude with a bunch of awards that nobody ever heard of and still aint gettin paid! lets see...money and popularity with the movie going public? or little gold plated statue?  | |
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SCNDLS said: BTW how many acting awards have Will Smith won? how many good roles did Will Smith choose???? We all know he can act, we also know he has a thing for picking crap-movies..... Eventhough his movies can be enjoyable, there are only a few that stand out....i.e. Six Degrees Of Separation and Ali.....and his work in those was pretty much praised! | |
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sosgemini said: Viola Davis was nominated.
Blair Underwood was nominated. Raisin In The sun was nominated. Beyonce was nominated and in other diverse news: ugly betty girl gets nominated. penelope cruz gets nominated. javier bardem gets nominated. an Indian wins for best score... Slumdog Millionaire wins best picture... and same shit on the org, different year, same shit.  :eyeroll:Academy Award for Best Picture 1985 Quincy Jones (producer) The Color Purple Nominee the first (and only) Black person to be nominated for Best Picture (a 7 year hiatus) 
Academy Award for Best Director 1991 John Singleton Boyz n the Hood Nominee the first (and only) Black person to be nominated for Best Director; youngest person ever nominated in this category Best Actor in a Leading Role 1958 Sidney Poitier The Defiant Ones Nominee the first Black actor to be nominated for Best Actor 5 years? No Black actors? 1963 Sidney Poitier Lilies of the Field Winner the first Black actor to win Best Actor, the youngest Black actor to win Best Actor (age 37) Another 7 years? 1970 James Earl Jones The Great White Hope Nominee 1972 Paul Winfield Sounder Nominee the first film to feature Black nominees for both Best Actor and Best Actress 14 years with no men of color who could act? 
1986 Dexter Gordon Round Midnight Nominee 1989 Morgan Freeman Driving Miss Daisy Nominee 1992 Denzel Washington Malcolm X Malcolm X Nominee 1993 Laurence Fishburne What's Love Got to Do with It Ike Turner Nominee only the second film to feature Black nominees for both Best Actor and Best Actress 1994 Morgan Freeman The Shawshank Redemption Ellis Boyd 'Red' Redding Nominee the oldest Black actor to be nominated for an Academy Award (age 57) 1999 Denzel Washington The Hurricane Rubin Carter Nominee 2001 Denzel Washington Training Day Winner the first Black actor to receive five acting nominations overall; the first Black actor to receive three Best Actor nominations; only the second Black actor to win Best Actor; the first time that multiple Black actors received Best Actor nominations, the oldest Black actor to win Best Actor (age 47) 2001 Will Smith Ali Muhammad Ali Nominee the first male hip hop artist to be nominated for an Academy Award; only the first time that multiple Black actors received Best Actor nominationsYet supposedly we are to take for granted that white actors are just always nominated multiple times. 2004 Jamie Foxx Ray Ray Charles Winner only the third Black actor to win Best Actor--the first Black actor to receive two acting nominations in the same year Sad... 
2004 Don Cheadle Hotel Rwanda Nominee 2005 Terrence Howard Hustle & Flow Djay Nominee 2006 Forest Whitaker The Last King of Scotland Idi Amin Winner only the fourth Black actor to win Best Actor 2006 Will Smith The Pursuit of Happyness Nominee So, since 1958, 50 years...only 4 Black men have won an Oscar? I dont understand how anyone can't see how insane this is. I bet if next year, everyone who was nominated for an award was Black...people would be confused and wondering wtf happened.
Last year Oscar nominations did not include a single Black actor or actress except Ruby Dee. This year I'm just hoping that Taraji will at least get a recognition. "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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SCNDLS said: DesireeNevermind said: Ok I have a problem with this premise. So are you saying that black actors have to be equal to white actors and that is the standard or bar they should set for themselves? That if a black film gets recognized by the oscars or the GGs then it is an acceptable film but if it gets snubbed then it automatically is deemed sub-standard? I'm sorry but when did White equal Right?
Tyler Perry has already been around for over 10 years and has films in production as we speak- the man's net worth is estimated at over 200 million then you count his production company and television projects and the rights he has to those then his worth tripples. More people have seen his films than have seen many films that were nominated at this years GGs. Celebs like Oprah, Quincey, Denzel and Spike have come out to praise him and his work...he is only just beginning to make an impact in Hollywood and if his films continue to make a profit as they have been doing then he could reach the status of say a Steven Speilberg or Ridley Scott over these next 10 years- assuming he even wants that. HIs film "The Family that Preys" featured oscar winner Kathy Bates. Doesn't everybody have to start somewhere? Even with major studio backing...films still and often do flop. Major studio backing does not guarantee a hit film , wide distribution or hit career for the participants. I don't suscribe to the notion that you have to compare and be on par with what white people in the industry do cuz there are alot of white actors struggling and many white film makers whose projects never see the light of day. That's why we have independent filmmakers and venues like the Sundance Film Festival. that's why many projects go straight to DVD. It doesn't always have to be about the Oscars or the box office smash. If I were a black actor just starting out...I would be greatful and humbled to star in a Tyler Perry production versus not working at all or playing some hooker/junkie thief in some low budget predominantly white collaboration. Its not about the grown up table...every one sits there...its about the food!! I don't think that "white" equals right but in the entertainment world there are certain standards that all actors, directors, and producers strive to meet. And winning Golden Globes and Oscars are part of that measuring stick. For better or worse. Which is why when a black person wins an Oscar it's a HUGE deal especially to the winning actor. Most actors want the opportunity to do their work under the best circumstances and to be acknowledged for their work at the highest levels. And that ain't by getting an NAACP award. Like I said, I believe that we do need to start our own shit but I don't think we should be excluded from the existing establishment which we helped build in the first place. [Edited 1/13/09 13:33pm] I agree with your last statement about not being excluded from the existing establishment but I don't think winning awards is an adequate measuring stick by any stretch of the imagination. Being a working actor and doing what you love and making a good living at it and building friendships in the business believe or not is enuf for many actors. Look at Kevin Bacon, he's worked with just about everyone and I don't think he's ever won an Oscar or GG but he has had a highly successful career- he can choose whether to work or not. And what if you win an Oscar then your careers nose dives? Mira Sorvino, Marisa Tomei anyone? Then what if you get nominated but you never snag that big paycheck or award? Harvey Keitel anyone? He was nominated for an Oscar only once, received just about every other award including a Razzie but his career has never reached the proportions of a Will Smith or Tom Cruise and he's old enuf to be their daddy!!  Jennifer Hudson won an Oscar but is career secure- will the roles keep coming in now that Hollywood likes her? computer says nah! | |
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noimageatall said: sosgemini said: Viola Davis was nominated.
Blair Underwood was nominated. Raisin In The sun was nominated. Beyonce was nominated and in other diverse news: ugly betty girl gets nominated. penelope cruz gets nominated. javier bardem gets nominated. an Indian wins for best score... Slumdog Millionaire wins best picture... and same shit on the org, different year, same shit. :eyeroll:Academy Award for Best Picture 1985 Quincy Jones (producer) The Color Purple Nominee the first (and only) Black person to be nominated for Best Picture (a 7 year hiatus)
Academy Award for Best Director 1991 John Singleton Boyz n the Hood Nominee the first (and only) Black person to be nominated for Best Director; youngest person ever nominated in this category Best Actor in a Leading Role 1958 Sidney Poitier The Defiant Ones Nominee the first Black actor to be nominated for Best Actor 5 years? No Black actors? 1963 Sidney Poitier Lilies of the Field Winner the first Black actor to win Best Actor, the youngest Black actor to win Best Actor (age 37) Another 7 years? 1970 James Earl Jones The Great White Hope Nominee 1972 Paul Winfield Sounder Nominee the first film to feature Black nominees for both Best Actor and Best Actress 14 years with no men of color who could act?
1986 Dexter Gordon Round Midnight Nominee 1989 Morgan Freeman Driving Miss Daisy Nominee 1992 Denzel Washington Malcolm X Malcolm X Nominee 1993 Laurence Fishburne What's Love Got to Do with It Ike Turner Nominee only the second film to feature Black nominees for both Best Actor and Best Actress 1994 Morgan Freeman The Shawshank Redemption Ellis Boyd 'Red' Redding Nominee the oldest Black actor to be nominated for an Academy Award (age 57) 1999 Denzel Washington The Hurricane Rubin Carter Nominee 2001 Denzel Washington Training Day Winner the first Black actor to receive five acting nominations overall; the first Black actor to receive three Best Actor nominations; only the second Black actor to win Best Actor; the first time that multiple Black actors received Best Actor nominations, the oldest Black actor to win Best Actor (age 47) 2001 Will Smith Ali Muhammad Ali Nominee the first male hip hop artist to be nominated for an Academy Award; only the first time that multiple Black actors received Best Actor nominationsYet supposedly we are to take for granted that white actors are just always nominated multiple times. 2004 Jamie Foxx Ray Ray Charles Winner only the third Black actor to win Best Actor--the first Black actor to receive two acting nominations in the same year Sad...
2004 Don Cheadle Hotel Rwanda Nominee 2005 Terrence Howard Hustle & Flow Djay Nominee 2006 Forest Whitaker The Last King of Scotland Idi Amin Winner only the fourth Black actor to win Best Actor 2006 Will Smith The Pursuit of Happyness Nominee So, since 1958, 50 years...only 4 Black men have won an Oscar? I dont understand how anyone can't see how insane this is. I bet if next year, everyone who was nominated for an award was Black...people would be confused and wondering wtf happened.
Last year Oscar nominations did not include a single Black actor or actress except Ruby Dee. This year I'm just hoping that Taraji will at least get a recognition. i agree with you, things haven't been equal..but if you look at the past ten year, there has been major progress. that's all i am saying... and i will be that Tariji and Viola Davis will both get nominated this year. and last year saw Javier Bardem win...this isn't just a black thing...it's a minority thing...all minorities have been underrepresented...but like i keep saying, over the past decade there has been major progress. IMHO. Space for sale... | |
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noimageatall said: sosgemini said: Viola Davis was nominated.
Blair Underwood was nominated. Raisin In The sun was nominated. Beyonce was nominated and in other diverse news: ugly betty girl gets nominated. penelope cruz gets nominated. javier bardem gets nominated. an Indian wins for best score... Slumdog Millionaire wins best picture... and same shit on the org, different year, same shit. :eyeroll:Academy Award for Best Picture 1985 Quincy Jones (producer) The Color Purple Nominee the first (and only) Black person to be nominated for Best Picture (a 7 year hiatus)
Academy Award for Best Director 1991 John Singleton Boyz n the Hood Nominee the first (and only) Black person to be nominated for Best Director; youngest person ever nominated in this category Best Actor in a Leading Role 1958 Sidney Poitier The Defiant Ones Nominee the first Black actor to be nominated for Best Actor 5 years? No Black actors? 1963 Sidney Poitier Lilies of the Field Winner the first Black actor to win Best Actor, the youngest Black actor to win Best Actor (age 37) Another 7 years? 1970 James Earl Jones The Great White Hope Nominee 1972 Paul Winfield Sounder Nominee the first film to feature Black nominees for both Best Actor and Best Actress 14 years with no men of color who could act?
1986 Dexter Gordon Round Midnight Nominee 1989 Morgan Freeman Driving Miss Daisy Nominee 1992 Denzel Washington Malcolm X Malcolm X Nominee 1993 Laurence Fishburne What's Love Got to Do with It Ike Turner Nominee only the second film to feature Black nominees for both Best Actor and Best Actress 1994 Morgan Freeman The Shawshank Redemption Ellis Boyd 'Red' Redding Nominee the oldest Black actor to be nominated for an Academy Award (age 57) 1999 Denzel Washington The Hurricane Rubin Carter Nominee 2001 Denzel Washington Training Day Winner the first Black actor to receive five acting nominations overall; the first Black actor to receive three Best Actor nominations; only the second Black actor to win Best Actor; the first time that multiple Black actors received Best Actor nominations, the oldest Black actor to win Best Actor (age 47) 2001 Will Smith Ali Muhammad Ali Nominee the first male hip hop artist to be nominated for an Academy Award; only the first time that multiple Black actors received Best Actor nominationsYet supposedly we are to take for granted that white actors are just always nominated multiple times. 2004 Jamie Foxx Ray Ray Charles Winner only the third Black actor to win Best Actor--the first Black actor to receive two acting nominations in the same year Sad...
2004 Don Cheadle Hotel Rwanda Nominee 2005 Terrence Howard Hustle & Flow Djay Nominee 2006 Forest Whitaker The Last King of Scotland Idi Amin Winner only the fourth Black actor to win Best Actor 2006 Will Smith The Pursuit of Happyness Nominee So, since 1958, 50 years...only 4 Black men have won an Oscar? I dont understand how anyone can't see how insane this is. I bet if next year, everyone who was nominated for an award was Black...people would be confused and wondering wtf happened.
Last year Oscar nominations did not include a single Black actor or actress except Ruby Dee. This year I'm just hoping that Taraji will at least get a recognition. you forgot that Denzel Washington won an Oscar in 1990 for 'Glory'.....Yes, Denzel on 2 Oscars.....how could that be???? | |
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abierman said: SCNDLS said: BTW how many acting awards have Will Smith won? how many good roles did Will Smith choose???? We all know he can act, we also know he has a thing for picking crap-movies..... Eventhough his movies can be enjoyable, there are only a few that stand out....i.e. Six Degrees Of Separation and Ali.....and his work in those was pretty much praised! I think the point that's trying to be made is that good roles are not as available for minorities. I mean, how many american made movies with an asian cast are made each year???? Like, none. At least african-americans have some representation (may that be good or bad) but there are other races that basically do not have any representation at all. | |
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abierman said: noimageatall said: So, since 1958, 50 years...only 4 Black men have won an Oscar? I dont understand how anyone can't see how insane this is. I bet if next year, everyone who was nominated for an award was Black...people would be confused and wondering wtf happened.
Last year Oscar nominations did not include a single Black actor or actress except Ruby Dee. This year I'm just hoping that Taraji will at least get a recognition. you forgot that Denzel Washington won an Oscar in 1990 for 'Glory'.....Yes, Denzel on 2 Oscars.....how could that be???? I only listed BEST actor wins, not supporting. "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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JustErin said: abierman said: how many good roles did Will Smith choose???? We all know he can act, we also know he has a thing for picking crap-movies..... Eventhough his movies can be enjoyable, there are only a few that stand out....i.e. Six Degrees Of Separation and Ali.....and his work in those was pretty much praised! I think the point that's trying to be made is that good roles are not as available for minorities. I mean, how many american made movies with an asian cast are made each year???? Like, none. At least african-americans have some representation (may that be good or bad) but there are other races that basically do not have any representation at all. true dat...there's also a non-american bias at the Oscars too...i loved that last year all winning acting awards went to non-americans...it was only the second time in the awards history that happened. [Edited 1/13/09 14:06pm] Space for sale... | |
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DesireeNevermind said: SCNDLS said: I don't think that "white" equals right but in the entertainment world there are certain standards that all actors, directors, and producers strive to meet. And winning Golden Globes and Oscars are part of that measuring stick. For better or worse. Which is why when a black person wins an Oscar it's a HUGE deal especially to the winning actor. Most actors want the opportunity to do their work under the best circumstances and to be acknowledged for their work at the highest levels. And that ain't by getting an NAACP award. Like I said, I believe that we do need to start our own shit but I don't think we should be excluded from the existing establishment which we helped build in the first place. [Edited 1/13/09 13:33pm] I agree with your last statement about not being excluded from the existing establishment but I don't think winning awards is an adequate measuring stick by any stretch of the imagination. Being a working actor and doing what you love and making a good living at it and building friendships in the business believe or not is enuf for many actors. Look at Kevin Bacon, he's worked with just about everyone and I don't think he's ever won an Oscar or GG but he has had a highly successful career- he can choose whether to work or not. And what if you win an Oscar then your careers nose dives? Mira Sorvino, Marisa Tomei anyone? Then what if you get nominated but you never snag that big paycheck or award? Harvey Keitel anyone? He was nominated for an Oscar only once, received just about every other award including a Razzie but his career has never reached the proportions of a Will Smith or Tom Cruise and he's old enuf to be their daddy!! Jennifer Hudson won an Oscar but is career secure- will the roles keep coming in now that Hollywood likes her? computer says nah!Money is not everything. People do like to be reconize for their work. Some people don't want to admit that. Golden Globes are one of the highest award a person can get. I do admit not everybody care if the get awards or not. | |
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abierman said: MuthaFunka said: So YOU determine what movies are good and bad and what the awards shows should "recognize" eh? Got it! OUR bad!  no, I don't.....and neither do YOU! I do know that movies with black actors or black themes do not get overlooked if the quality is good enough....I guess this has been a poor year, don't you think?Wow, u really think that way in 2009??? I have to say that u sound a bit nieve. African Americans have been looked over for years. And it hasn't even been that long that we have been finally getting our due...but we still get looked over. I truly believe the the Globes & the Oscars only give out statues to African Americans for a year or two in a row just to "satisfy the quo" and then its back to the "blackout" once again. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Graycap23 said: sosgemini said: Viola Davis was nominated.
Blair Underwood was nominated. Raisin In The sun was nominated. Beyonce was nominated and in other diverse news: ugly betty girl gets nominated. penelope cruz gets nominated. javier bardem gets nominated. an Indian wins for best score... Slumdog Millionaire wins best picture... and same shit on the org, different year, same shit. :eyeroll:Did I miss your point? Nope, I thought you knew? 4's enough for us. Now, stop complaining. [Edited 1/13/09 15:22pm] nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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abierman said: Graycap23 said: I guess u should be happy with this sad ass list. I challenge you to come with a better list.....like Sos already said: why bitch if there is a lack of representation?? Mutha, who is doing the 'locking-out' of black talent??? Please do come with hard proof instead of some black/white conspiracy BS..... Hollywood. The same obvious answer it's always been and will continue to be. Now, you can choose to completely ignore it and that wouldn't surprise me one bit since most people tend not to look at the issues that don't impact themseleves particularly, but it's always been the same story. Always. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Graycap23 said: DesireeNevermind said: Well said No one is saying that Hollywood is perfect when it comes to representing non whites but it sure has improved and if this year wasn't ideal...so what? Maybe next year there will be more to choose from. Imagine if Dream Girls or that Bees movie never got made. Its still in the hands of the directors, writers and producers to bring forth the creativity and market and sell it.So according 2 U and your cohort.....we should NOT be discussing this? Dawg, in life, there are those that won't get it and those that will never get it. Same thing here at the org. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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missfee said: abierman said: no, I don't.....and neither do YOU! I do know that movies with black actors or black themes do not get overlooked if the quality is good enough....I guess this has been a poor year, don't you think?Wow, u really think that way in 2009??? I have to say that u sound a bit nieve. African Americans have been looked over for years. And it hasn't even been that long that we have been finally getting our due...but we still get looked over. I truly believe the the Globes & the Oscars only give out statues to African Americans for a year or two in a row just to "satisfy the quo" and then its back to the "blackout" once again.  Some people don't want to have to deal with that reality. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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For those that think we're making this up (as usual - go figure), here's some valid info on the subject. Read carefully and then click the link provided:
The NAACP Hollywood Bureau has announced its latest findings in a new report titled "Out of Focus, Out of Sync—Take 4" that shows the entertainment industry, particularly television, continues to fall seriously short in achieving diversity. NAACP officials warned that without quick action to reverse the bleak statistics cited in the 40-page report, the industry could face political action.
"At a time when the country is excited about the election of the first African-American president in U.S. history, it is unthinkable that minorities would be so grossly under-represented on broadcast television," said NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous. "Perpetrating the situation is the fact that the few African Americans in higher positions in that industry lack power to green light new series' or make final creative decisions, which has translated into a critical lack of primetime programming by, for, or about people of color," said NAACP Hollywood Bureau Executive Director Vicangelo Bulluck. The "Take 4" report cites statistics that show an ongoing trend where African Americans and other minorities continue to be under-represented in nearly every aspect of television and film businesses, while largely being denied access to significant positions of power in Hollywood. Specifically, the report reveals that employment and promotion opportunities for minorities are directly tied to highly subjective practices, a closed roster system and potentially discriminatory guild membership practices. The serious shortage of minority faces on primetime television can also be traced to the virtual disappearance of black programming since the merger of UPN and WB networks into The CW network, according to the report. To help remedy the situation, the report recommends the establishment of a task force comprised of network executives, educators and NAACP advocacy partners to update the Memorandum of Understanding between the networks and the NAACP and its coalition partners. The goal would be to create best practice standards throughout the industry. "The NAACP has a long history of working in partnership with the networks, studios, guilds, agencies and others to create substantive opportunities for people of color in front of and behind the camera," Bulluck added. For more information and to download a copy of the report, visit http://www.naacp.org. The NAACP's Hollywood Bureau opened in 2002 and focuses its efforts on holding the networks and studios accountable for advancing diversity on screen and behind the scenes. Founded in 1909, the NAACP is the nation's oldest and largest civil rights organization. Its members throughout the United States and the world are the premier advocates for civil rights in their communities, conducting voter mobilization and monitoring equal opportunity in the public and private sectors. But we're making this stuff up - of course. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Nobody is claiming your making anything up...
...just sharing a different opinion then your. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: Nobody is claiming your making anything up...
...just sharing a different opinion then your. No, there are some here who DO think this "perceived shut-out" is made up. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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missfee said: abierman said: no, I don't.....and neither do YOU! I do know that movies with black actors or black themes do not get overlooked if the quality is good enough....I guess this has been a poor year, don't you think?Wow, u really think that way in 2009??? I have to say that u sound a bit nieve. African Americans have been looked over for years. And it hasn't even been that long that we have been finally getting our due...but we still get looked over. I truly believe the the Globes & the Oscars only give out statues to African Americans for a year or two in a row just to "satisfy the quo" and then its back to the "blackout" once again. I am not claiming that there isn't a history of looking over, but now, in 2009, it is hardly the case anymore. Just accept that this has been a weak year overall so also for good roles for black actors. Deal with it.....or do give me some valid examples. Like Sosgemini already said, Will Smith is on his way to getting there, just don't expect him to receive an award for 'Hancock'. | |
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MuthaFunka said: missfee said: Wow, u really think that way in 2009??? I have to say that u sound a bit nieve. African Americans have been looked over for years. And it hasn't even been that long that we have been finally getting our due...but we still get looked over. I truly believe the the Globes & the Oscars only give out statues to African Americans for a year or two in a row just to "satisfy the quo" and then its back to the "blackout" once again. Some people don't want to have to deal with that reality. [snip - CarrieMpls] I'm sick & tired of you perceiving me as some bigot American. You know jackshit about me or the multicultural environment that I am from that is normal to me. Go on judging others from your own little micro cosmos, you ain't got shit on me. [Edited 1/13/09 16:06pm] | |
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What?  Javier Bardem is the first Spanish actor EVER to win an oscar? 
sos. I imagine when you mention him as a minority you mean the "foreign actors" minority.Or "people who can hardly speak English" minority. Do you? Do you?  | |
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abierman said: MuthaFunka said: Some people don't want to have to deal with that reality. [snip - CarrieMpls] I'm sick & tired of you perceiving me as some bigot American. You know jackshit about me or the multicultural environment that I am from that is normal to me. Go on judging others from you own little micro cosmos, you ain't got shit on me. You know, it's interesting that you feel that I'm directing that comment to you when it wasn't directed at anyone in particular, yet you took it that way, and that pushed you to lose it and resort to a petty full-on personal attack. Speaks volumes. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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SCNDLS said: IrresistibleB1tch said: Hey, you!
hi goar-juss!  
it's like P&R Lite over here... | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: SCNDLS said: Hey, you!
hi goar-juss!
it's like P&R Lite over here...  I holla'd at that. . . HARD. | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: SCNDLS said: Hey, you!
hi goar-juss!
it's like P&R Lite over here... P&R = Great Taste! GD = Less Filling!  nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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SCNDLS said: IrresistibleB1tch said: hi goar-juss!
it's like P&R Lite over here... I holla'd at that. . . HARD. | |
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