Can't we have some variety? GATDANG- if you aint gay you a homophobe. if you aint a homophobe you gay. if you straight you really pretending 'cause erry body is undacova. Can't folk be happy with who they really are without being condemed or told that they actin like somethin else???

I'm exhausted- that's why young folks are so confused- they don't know who or what they are- they just flowin in the wind.

end of rant.

I agree.

i guess i'll move this to GD. i'm not sure where this thread belongs, but it sure ain't at M:NP.

ok then

Anxiety said:

Thanks.

well originally this was meant for all the mj, neyo,prince homophobia talk. but they moved it.

why do you talk/type like a [snip - CarrieMpls]?

horatio said:

[snip - CarrieMpls]

you the [snip - CarrieMpls]

Evvy said:

What do you think us gays are trying to accomplish?

ScarletScandal said:

but why the reverse now- it's like homosexuality must be the choice or if not one can't possibly be happy.

rarely are gay people told that they are actin straight- that they are undercova straight people

for a young person- it's confusing- society says you have to be either gay or tolerant- if you are straight but not the straight people want to see then you are condenmed

CarrieMpls said:

it's the season for giving!

Evvy said:

actually, "straight acting" is a strange double standard that exists in the gay community, and even within openly gay society, the question of following a heterosexual model for relationships is something that's a constant source of debate. so there are two sides to this story depending on whose shoes you're in.

Evvy said:

Since WHEN? Wow. You have me completely lost...

Anxiety said:

now see that's what I didn't know. I for one would think that if a society has been oppressed for so long- they would not turn around and do unto others what they fought so hard to have stopped- it's hurtful either way

ScarletScandal said:

i know right :lol. it's basically the exact opposite of that

InsatiableCream said:

for real though.

Evvy said:

i think there is a mindset within the gay community that if you can assimilate as much as possible to look, act, and conduct your relationships as closely as possible to that of heterosexual society, then in some way you can fit in or be accepted. i think there's a lot of pressure to conform to this standard.

have you guys read some of the comments from fellow orgers about Prince, MJ, Madonna, Neyo?? Is it because they are celebrity or is it because that's how they truly feel about people who are "different" from either side of the pole?

Evvy said:

i think some people are misinformed or some people just want to get a rise out of folks because they think it's still "scandalous" to be gay. and other people are just ignorant and think that because someone is flamboyant or looks or acts different, they must be gay. who knows. it says more about the person posting the rumors than the people being posted about. we all know prince isn't gay and if he's struggling with issues, then that's his private business. madonna is madonna...she does what she wants, takes pictures of it and sells it in a book, lol. who even knows about MJ anymore? i mean, really?

to me, all this speculation is moot when you have people like wanda sykes coming out and saying common sense things and being proud of who she is. it's simple and honest and admirable. who cares about all the gossip?

Anxiety said:

that's my point- why be labeled "straight" gay or gay "straight"- if it's so acceptable why not have the variety

I understand you saying that it's not accepted- but you can't tell me that when i'm inundated with homosexual media

Anxiety said:

so true

Evvy said:

Dude, seriously?

ScarletScandal said:

why are you so against the idea- pick up a news paper, magazine, turn on the television, click the mouse on your computer

can you tell me where there is no homosexual media?

Evvy said:

Lawd have mussy...Please to post examples...

Evvy said:

that because everyone is some degree homosexual, rarely is there anyone coming close to being full fledged straight. its like a rainbow of sex, with all the colors melding into each other.

doot dat splain it enuff?

horatio said:

You backwards too! Rarely is anyone close to being full fledges gay. People are more inclined to say they are "bi" or "curious" or (insert other new age sexuality here) before they say they are full blown gay.

horatio said:

you need to work on your ebonics-it's not funny-

you are a prime example of someone who is condescending to others because they are different from you- perhaps you like it like that- to each his own

-no I don't agree with that- considering the true definition of homosexuality.

Evvy said:

once again...

I physically make this face each time I read your posts.

ScarletScandal said:

pipe down both of you, you're both 50% right.

there IS a spectrum that goes from queer as a catfart to straight as an arrow, with a whole lot of varieties in between, but one extreme is not exclusive. some people really ARE happy considering themselves to be 100% gay or straight and there are a lot of people happy thinking of themselves as different shades in between. it's a big world with lots of people and everyone's brain works differently.