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Reply #30 posted 11/13/08 4:18pm

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And mostly all of them have been beaten, abused or raped by these assholes as well.


Many times this was their life as children and therefore they live the only life they know how to live.
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Reply #31 posted 11/13/08 4:21pm

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Exactly. When you could just skip all the bullshit and go get a good boy to begin with.


Getting a good boy from the start is no fun...and when they do manage to change a bad boy (however briefly), its a badge of honor...they walk him around like a housebroken dog and show him off to their girlfriends....shit, one of my buddies got married to his breaker, and when she couldn't stop him from having us as his groomsmen, she went out of her way to rid "her man" of his "bad influences"...
...she never did treat him right after he "reformed"...disbelief


'his breaker'... lol
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Reply #32 posted 11/13/08 4:22pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

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This might be my number one pet peeve. I just don't get it. I suppose I understand the idea of 'I like what I like'. And that's fine, but when you know that what you like means you're going to be disrespected and treated poorly, are you really in any position to complain about it?


Are these women telling you that in response to when you ask? Abuse is a cycle and yes, someone can bitch about something they were mostly destined to repeat. It's a process of working through this dysfunction and it's easier said than done. Thankfully I made it to the other side.


More or less, this is what she said the last time we had a conversation of significance about it. My thing is, okay if that's the way it is, then so be it. But you know what's coming down the pike and yet you still complain about it like it's the first time it's ever happened, and like you didn't know when you met this guy that he wasn't worth a shit.
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Reply #33 posted 11/13/08 4:25pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Are these women telling you that in response to when you ask? Abuse is a cycle and yes, someone can bitch about something they were mostly destined to repeat. It's a process of working through this dysfunction and it's easier said than done. Thankfully I made it to the other side.


More or less, this is what she said the last time we had a conversation of significance about it. My thing is, okay if that's the way it is, then so be it. But you know what's coming down the pike and yet you still complain about it like it's the first time it's ever happened, and like you didn't know when you met this guy that he wasn't worth a shit.


Next time she complains, why not point her in the direction of someone who has been there and done that and who changed their life?

http://www.prince.org/msg/100/180972


http://www.prince.org/msg/100/220882


http://prince.org/msg/100/264513


I understand the backlash against the abused because most people just can't relate at all. But I wanted to give a peek into the life of someone who was your friend at one time in my life....

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[Edited 11/13/08 16:26pm]
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Reply #34 posted 11/13/08 4:46pm

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But still select men with a high school mentality.


I'm still trying to figure this out myself.. I don't get that either...


She shamelessly chases men that aren't about shit. I'm talking about men for whom the signs are there upfront


alot of females do this, they settle for junk ... and yes, even after the true colors come out.. they're STILL going for the guy... they feel they have no more other options and that they won't find a better man..


And she's not the only one. I know others. It just puzzles me because in most cases these are intelligent women who should know better.


Seriously, what gives?


I know females like this too nod
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Reply #35 posted 11/13/08 9:19pm

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I can't speak for all women, but for me I'm attracted by looks. And most of the guys I find attractive happen to be 'bad boys'. There are a few good guys I like as well but none of them want me lol . So I'd prefer to go with the bad boy I like and get hurt than settle for a good guy I have no interest in. I don't have the same problem with girls which is why, being bisexual, I tend to date girls and have flings with guys.
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Reply #36 posted 11/13/08 9:39pm

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what attracts me in a man is maturity (not as in age), intelligence and confidence and a nice pair of biceps, beautiful hands and feet, a naughty glint in his eye etc.

if they are bad that puts them in the immature & dumb category, IMO.
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Reply #37 posted 11/13/08 9:47pm

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Such a good question. Why, indeed?
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Reply #38 posted 11/13/08 10:42pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

violator said:



More or less, this is what she said the last time we had a conversation of significance about it. My thing is, okay if that's the way it is, then so be it. But you know what's coming down the pike and yet you still complain about it like it's the first time it's ever happened, and like you didn't know when you met this guy that he wasn't worth a shit.


Next time she complains, why not point her in the direction of someone who has been there and done that and who changed their life?

http://www.prince.org/msg/100/180972


http://www.prince.org/msg/100/220882


http://prince.org/msg/100/264513


I understand the backlash against the abused because most people just can't relate at all. But I wanted to give a peek into the life of someone who was your friend at one time in my life....

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[Edited 11/13/08 16:26pm]


I wish I could relate more to it. But I honestly can't and it, at times, just infuriates me because she seems to understand what she's doing but has no inclination to change.
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Reply #39 posted 11/13/08 10:51pm

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My girlfriend and I tried to further our relationship by communicating how we felt about the disfunctions that initially brought us together. However, it seemed like whenever she tried to incessantly express about how I treated her, she would always get interrupted by the back of my hand.
But at least I would end up getting laid that night.

BTW, what do you call a girlfriend with two black eyes?
A slow learner.
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Reply #40 posted 11/14/08 1:41am

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I gave her the money. Not that I mind. She's a friend. But she keeps putting herself in these types of situations and its just maddening. A few years back, I said something to her about it and she got pissed for what she felt I was "suggesting" about her and we didn't speak for almost three weeks. Yet this asshole does something like this to her and she was with him again four days later.


She is using you.

Obviously she loves to be treated bad and seen hanging around with "bad "boys"..

When the drama comes, you will be there for her again.

And so the cycle continues.
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Reply #41 posted 11/14/08 4:20am

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They like the attention that it brings.
“When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara
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Reply #42 posted 11/14/08 8:27am

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dseann said:



Sounds like there's more to your story than just simple curiosity. Do you still have feelings for this girl and would like to hook back up? hmmm
But generally, girls with "bad boys" complain to let the world know they are with a "bad boy". It's what they like and they like showing off. Personally, I think all girls with "bad boys" should dump them and come to me. lol


Not sure why it sounds like there's more to it, unless you don't believe that people who dated once can be friends afterwards. But no, there's nothing more to it. Dating her at this point would be like dating a cousin. Trust me, it's not like that at all.


Actually I do believe that it can be done, I'm still good friends with all my but two of my exes. I still value their opinions on a lot of issues. I was being funny and tried to give an reasonable response to the topic after that before trying to be funny again. lol
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Reply #43 posted 11/14/08 9:09am

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This is actually one of my peeves 2. I can't stand it. My problem is that because of my style, the way I look, or whatever, I generally get approached by the femme fatale type... strong personality, strong willed, etc., and that works out great except 4 when they find out that I'm really a nice guy, and then they invent stuff 2 cause the drama they desperately need. I'm a great lover... attentive, receptive, skilled, and affectionate. I'm also intelligent and have a well developed sense of humour, but 2 some women, none of that matters because even if they say they appreciate a man like me, they're really looking for neglect. It drives me crazy, and it must be my fault, at least somewhat... maybe I'm picking the wrong women? Maybe I should just shut up and play my guitar.
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Reply #44 posted 11/14/08 9:10am

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This is actually one of my peeves 2. I can't stand it. My problem is that because of my style, the way I look, or whatever, I generally get approached by the femme fatale type... strong personality, strong willed, etc., and that works out great except 4 when they find out that I'm really a nice guy, and then they invent stuff 2 cause the drama they desperately need. I'm a great lover... attentive, receptive, skilled, and affectionate. I'm also intelligent and have a well developed sense of humour, but 2 some women, none of that matters because even if they say they appreciate a man like me, they're really looking for neglect. It drives me crazy, and it must be my fault, at least somewhat... maybe I'm picking the wrong women? Maybe I should just shut up and play my guitar.

And you sure ain't modest lol.
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #45 posted 11/14/08 9:44am

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Giovanni777 said:

This is actually one of my peeves 2. I can't stand it. My problem is that because of my style, the way I look, or whatever, I generally get approached by the femme fatale type... strong personality, strong willed, etc., and that works out great except 4 when they find out that I'm really a nice guy, and then they invent stuff 2 cause the drama they desperately need. I'm a great lover... attentive, receptive, skilled, and affectionate. I'm also intelligent and have a well developed sense of humour, but 2 some women, none of that matters because even if they say they appreciate a man like me, they're really looking for neglect. It drives me crazy, and it must be my fault, at least somewhat... maybe I'm picking the wrong women? Maybe I should just shut up and play my guitar.


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Reply #46 posted 11/14/08 1:11pm

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Serious said:

Giovanni777 said:

This is actually one of my peeves 2. I can't stand it. My problem is that because of my style, the way I look, or whatever, I generally get approached by the femme fatale type... strong personality, strong willed, etc., and that works out great except 4 when they find out that I'm really a nice guy, and then they invent stuff 2 cause the drama they desperately need. I'm a great lover... attentive, receptive, skilled, and affectionate. I'm also intelligent and have a well developed sense of humour, but 2 some women, none of that matters because even if they say they appreciate a man like me, they're really looking for neglect. It drives me crazy, and it must be my fault, at least somewhat... maybe I'm picking the wrong women? Maybe I should just shut up and play my guitar.

And you sure ain't modest lol.

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Reply #47 posted 11/14/08 1:14pm

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Serious said:

Giovanni777 said:

This is actually one of my peeves 2. I can't stand it. My problem is that because of my style, the way I look, or whatever, I generally get approached by the femme fatale type... strong personality, strong willed, etc., and that works out great except 4 when they find out that I'm really a nice guy, and then they invent stuff 2 cause the drama they desperately need. I'm a great lover... attentive, receptive, skilled, and affectionate. I'm also intelligent and have a well developed sense of humour, but 2 some women, none of that matters because even if they say they appreciate a man like me, they're really looking for neglect. It drives me crazy, and it must be my fault, at least somewhat... maybe I'm picking the wrong women? Maybe I should just shut up and play my guitar.

And you sure ain't modest lol.


Yeah, I'm either very direct or really shy. I was telling it like it is, because it really does seem 2 be a pattern of sorts, and my qualities don't seem 2 be a factor. Yet through everything, I still believe that I'll find the "right one" someday. Just got a lot 2 give, and like giving it... that's all.
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Reply #48 posted 11/14/08 1:39pm

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I know why women go for these dudes.
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Reply #49 posted 11/14/08 2:45pm

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JustErin said:

I know why women go for these dudes.



well??? Out with it, missy!!
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
(George Eliot)

the video for the above...evillol
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #50 posted 11/14/08 4:04pm

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YOUR QUESTION IS PARTLY ANSWERED HERE..

Original Ladder Theory lol
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Reply #51 posted 11/14/08 4:56pm

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papaaisaway said:

YOUR QUESTION IS PARTLY ANSWERED HERE..

Original Ladder Theory lol



falloff Funniest shit I've read in ages....
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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the video for the above...evillol
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #52 posted 11/14/08 4:57pm

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reneGade20 said:

papaaisaway said:

YOUR QUESTION IS PARTLY ANSWERED HERE..

Original Ladder Theory lol



falloff Funniest shit I've read in ages....


I read parts of it too. lol
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #53 posted 11/14/08 5:05pm

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Serious said:

reneGade20 said:




falloff Funniest shit I've read in ages....


I read parts of it too. lol



According to Ladder Theory, I've been equal parts "the outlaw biker" and "the intellectual whore".....

...but never, never a cuddle bitch.... lol
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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the video for the above...evillol
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #54 posted 11/14/08 5:05pm

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papaaisaway said:

YOUR QUESTION IS PARTLY ANSWERED HERE..

Original Ladder Theory lol




falloff .. some of this is funny

omgosh @ the Man's Ladder disbelief
[Edited 11/14/08 17:08pm]
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Reply #55 posted 11/14/08 5:07pm

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I read parts of it too. lol



According to Ladder Theory, I've been equal parts "the outlaw biker" and "the intellectual whore".....

...but never, never a cuddle bitch.... lol

There is some truth in it though. lol
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #56 posted 11/14/08 5:10pm

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Serious said:

reneGade20 said:




According to Ladder Theory, I've been equal parts "the outlaw biker" and "the intellectual whore".....

...but never, never a cuddle bitch.... lol

There is some truth in it though. lol



indeed!! Thats why the cuddle bitch thing had me cracking up....
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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the video for the above...evillol
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #57 posted 11/14/08 5:14pm

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reneGade20 said:

Serious said:


There is some truth in it though. lol



indeed!! Thats why the cuddle bitch thing had me cracking up....


So what does that tell you about yourself?
The part that I totally hated was the one that women value money so high mad .
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #58 posted 11/14/08 5:19pm

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Serious said:

reneGade20 said:




indeed!! Thats why the cuddle bitch thing had me cracking up....


So what does that tell you about yourself?
The part that I totally hated was the one that women value money so high mad .



It tells me I'm glad to know I've never been a cuddle bitch...it tells me that I know when I'm in the friend zone and the role I've played in some of my female friend's lives...

...and yes, that for the most part, my mind has been residing in the gutter...giggle
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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the video for the above...evillol
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #59 posted 11/14/08 5:21pm

Flowers2

eek .. they are revealing too many secrets up on that Ladder site spit LOL! this is some funny stuff.. alot of this true boxed
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