ZombieKitten said:

In addition to having scary scenes, it was also very sweet--the friendship between Oskar and the vampire girl. But not in a sappy way of course. I loved it.

sextonseven said:

It was very sweet. But almost bittersweet. SPOILER:




He's basically gonna grow up to be her "dad" like in the beginning of the movie. That made me sad.

CarrieMpls said:

MORE SPOILERS:


That's true. My friend and I wondered how the relationship between Eli and her "dad" began after Oskar became his replacement.

And Oskar got a lot of action for a 12-year old. Eli kissed him, he saw her naked and she slept with him naked.

sextonseven said:

MORE SPOILERS:

Totally! I remember thinking there's no way that would fly in an american film.
I also couldn't stop giggling about how one of his "bullies" always had on a long, loopy, yellow scarf. American bullies wouldn't be caught dead in something like that. I love those kinds of details.
The outdoor scenes made me so depressed, thinking about winter here. Being that I saw it a few weeks ago and it was still sort of autumn here it was a yucky preview of what's to come. There's snow on the ground today.

What happens to her original "dad" at the beginning of the movie?
orgnote me if you don't want to spoil the fun.

The movie isn't showing anywhere near Tampa.

If you want, I can tell you the end of a movie I've seen like Titanic or Return of the sith.

Imago said:

Did the ship sink at the end of Titanic?

sextonseven said:

Look, I'd make a very convincing Swedish bully if not for my Asian eyes, ya heard?


Just sayin'



Now tell me !!!!

OK, here are my thoughts (Yes, I just finished seeing the film).


THE DIRECTOR: For his first film in the genre of horror ,it was a terrific effort. However, he lacks the ability to tap into Sweedish culture the same way Sam Firstenberg would be able to tap into American culture. This of course causes the characters in this movie to be a bit off. They're sort of in a twilight world that doesn't go beyond the confines of a hospital, a school/gym, and a small stockholm suburbs flat.
Where's Sam Firstenberg's characters yearn for self-actualization and respect, the characters in this movie seem confused... they appear to just be trying to survive. This makes the formula of the movie a bit by-the-numbers, something that Fistenberg would never do (terrific examples are how Fistenberg's iconic American figures, Turbo and Ozone try to save their apartment building from being demolished in the much heralded Breakin 2--Electric Bugaloo). Fistenberg's characters expose the injustices of America's social-economic disparities, serve as the moral fiber that moves the plot along, and ignite a spark in all of us who yearn to be something more than we are today--all without sucking blood.

That being said:

1) This is one of the best vampire movies I've ever seen. And one of the better horror movies. It has bit of gore here and there but by no means is it a bloody movie. Nor is it necessarily scary. But the story line is so sweet it just works, albeit, Fistenberg could probably add more spice to it if he were the director.

2) The guy that plays Oskar's father is fine as hell. Is he gay in the movie? I couldn't tell if his long haired friend was a lover or a casual drug dealer.

3) Although Oskar was afraid of his bullies, even at his age I would have beat all their lily asses one by one, or all at the same time--whichever they chose.

4) The Muff scene would never be allowed in an American theater. America does not have the ability to distinguish between a comedic scene involving nudity and pornography--especially when it comes to children. We simply can't separate nudity from sex, nor sexual overtones from porn--it would be considered child porn, which is rather disappointing because the scene is neither pornographic nor sexual.

4) Poor oskar is going to end up being her "father" for sure. Perhaps those rings that she's collected were from all her previous "fathers".

5) If she's a little 12 year girl for eternity, does that mean she never psychologically evolves? Even Claudia in the Lestat stories evolved--the was Lestate that kept her in the role of "little girl". It makes the scenes in which she befriends him and crawls into bed with him a bit confusing...and uncomfortable.

6) Lastly, I think my review is better than sextoseven's or Carriempls's combined. Those who agree, please respond to this post. Thank you.



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Imago said:

You saw it!

You're a big old copy cat!

CarrieMpls said:

You're just jealous cause I saw it better than you saw it.

Imago said:

Nuh-UH!!

CarrieMpls said:

so, was his dad gay or not?

You and I have the same taste--I KNOW you fancied him.

Imago said:

I don't think he was gay, just european.

And I remember thinking he was kinda cute, I suppose.

CarrieMpls said:

What about his long haired crazy cooter looking friend with the vodka?

I think they were fuckin'

Imago said:

eh. I don't really care. Which means he couldn't have been that cute, or I'd be fighting for him.

CarrieMpls said:

Shallow !

OK, here are my thoughts (Yes, I just finished seeing the film).


THE DIRECTOR: For his first film in the genre of horror ,it was a terrific effort. However, he lacks the ability to tap into Sweedish culture the same way Sam Firstenberg would be able to tap into American culture. This of course causes the characters in this movie to be a bit off. They're sort of in a twilight world that doesn't go beyond the confines of a hospital, a school/gym, and a small stockholm suburbs flat.
Where's Sam Firstenberg's characters yearn for self-actualization and respect, the characters in this movie seem confused... they appear to just be trying to survive. This makes the formula of the movie a bit by-the-numbers, something that Fistenberg would never do (terrific examples are how Fistenberg's iconic American figures, Turbo and Ozone try to save their apartment building from being demolished in the much heralded Breakin 2--Electric Bugaloo). Fistenberg's characters expose the injustices of America's social-economic disparities, serve as the moral fiber that moves the plot along, and ignite a spark in all of us who yearn to be something more than we are today--all without sucking blood.

That being said:

1) This is one of the best vampire movies I've ever seen. And one of the better horror movies. It has bit of gore here and there but by no means is it a bloody movie. Nor is it necessarily scary. But the story line is so sweet it just works, albeit, Fistenberg could probably add more spice to it if he were the director.

2) The guy that plays Oskar's father is fine as hell. Is he gay in the movie? I couldn't tell if his long haired friend was a lover or a casual drug dealer.

3) Although Oskar was afraid of his bullies, even at his age I would have beat all their lily asses one by one, or all at the same time--whichever they chose.

4) The Muff scene would never be allowed in an American theater. America does not have the ability to distinguish between a comedic scene involving nudity and pornography--especially when it comes to children. We simply can't separate nudity from sex, nor sexual overtones from porn--it would be considered child porn, which is rather disappointing because the scene is neither pornographic nor sexual.

4) Poor oskar is going to end up being her "father" for sure. Perhaps those rings that she's collected were from all her previous "fathers".

5) If she's a little 12 year girl for eternity, does that mean she never psychologically evolves? Even Claudia in the Lestat stories evolved--the was Lestate that kept her in the role of "little girl". It makes the scenes in which she befriends him and crawls into bed with him a bit confusing...and uncomfortable.

6) Lastly, I think my review is better than sextoseven's or Carriempls's combined. Those who agree, please respond to this post. Thank you.



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[Edited 11/22/08 22:56pm]

Imago said:

Your review may be better than ours, but only because you gave away the whole movie. I could have written all that stuff if I wanted.

I thought about Eli being psychologically stunted also. She proved she was definitely smarter than the average 12-year old by solving the Rubik's cube, but everything else about her mental state remained innocent. But who is to say that just because vampires in other fiction age mentally, that they have to in this one?

Oskar's dad is gay.

sextonseven said:

OMG, say it again.
my. review. was. better. than. yours.... (no need to continue after the "but").


I figured he was gay from that scene, but couldn't figure out why or how that played into the role. It seemed like an unnecessary subplot. Perhaps it added to the "being a misfit" side of the Oskar's character?

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Imago said:

I admitted your review was good once. That's all you're gonna get.

I think that's it exactly about Oskar's dad. That Oskar didn't really get what was going on with both his parents made it easier to leave with Eli in the end. Plus maybe the film just wanted to clue us in on why his parents were divorced at the same time? Which works if Oskar's dad and friend are gay or druggies.

This looks like it will be goood!
I really want to see it, but somehow I doubt it'll be showing in bunk-ass Baltimore

thekidsgirl said:

It won't play here in Hawaii, everybody always forget about us

thekidsgirl said:

It won't play here in Hawaii, everybody always forget about us

sextonseven said:

Which meant neither were terribly stable/nurturing environments for Oskar to begin with.

I found it a lot different from American horror genres in which parents are almost missing in our films. Here they played some role in the movie, though if only to serve to show how alienated he was.

kpowers said:

you should check online! I just found out it's playing at a theater in my city, so I'll probably see it this week