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Thread started 11/21/02 11:40am

Drika

Just ask Eve...

Why is it that we teach women from the time they are born to get what they want through manipulation by using their looks, but when they do we chastise them.

Little girls learn very young that the sweeter they can appear and the more docile they seem, the more they will be able to manipulate people. There is many a Daddy that is twisted around his little girls finger…and this he sees fit to brag about. While little boys are taught to use their intelligence to accomplish something. But yet, when these little girls become women and use their looks or their sweet personalities to manipulate a situation, they are called bitch, ho, gold digger, skeezer, etc. If we teach to young girls that manipulation with a sweet personality or a beautiful face works, then shouldn’t we expect it when they are older?

Why do people constantly tell each other that looks do not matter? It is out of embarrassment because we have placed so much importance on something superficial? This is no Utopia we are living in. But for some reason people seem to think that the beauty standard doesn’t exist. While all the while it was them who imposed it to begin with. Yes everyone can say that is what is in someone’s heart that counts and personality and intelligence are the most important (all of these come before looks to me, give me a intelligent man any day, because all I want to tell a gorgeous stupid one to do is “shut the hell up”), but in reality, women who use their looks to manipulate a situation are only living a taught lesson for an easy life.

It’s not like this is some new concept…just ask Eve.
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Reply #1 posted 11/21/02 11:42am

SuperiorTe

Drika said:

Why is it that we teach women from the time they are born to get what they want through manipulation by using their looks, but when they do we chastise them.

Little girls learn very young that the sweeter they can appear and the more docile they seem, the more they will be able to manipulate people. There is many a Daddy that is twisted around his little girls finger…and this he sees fit to brag about. While little boys are taught to use their intelligence to accomplish something. But yet, when these little girls become women and use their looks or their sweet personalities to manipulate a situation, they are called bitch, ho, gold digger, skeezer, etc. If we teach to young girls that manipulation with a sweet personality or a beautiful face works, then shouldn’t we expect it when they are older?

Why do people constantly tell each other that looks do not matter? It is out of embarrassment because we have placed so much importance on something superficial? This is no Utopia we are living in. But for some reason people seem to think that the beauty standard doesn’t exist. While all the while it was them who imposed it to begin with. Yes everyone can say that is what is in someone’s heart that counts and personality and intelligence are the most important (all of these come before looks to me, give me a intelligent man any day, because all I want to tell a gorgeous stupid one to do is “shut the hell up”), but in reality, women who use their looks to manipulate a situation are only living a taught lesson for an easy life.

It’s not like this is some new concept…just ask Eve.



This thread is wasted here. We're all rednecks, including IceNine. He certainly has an empathy anyway. lol
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Reply #2 posted 11/21/02 11:45am

POOK

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HMMM

TELL POOK ALL ABOUT EVE

POOK NOT GET IT

P o o |/,
P o o |\
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Reply #3 posted 11/21/02 11:48am

SuperiorTe

POOK said:


HMMM

TELL POOK ALL ABOUT EVE

POOK NOT GET IT



I've seen monkies like u before, coming down the 1132 steps from Buddha's footprint just outside Krabi in central Thailand. Vicious little buggers they were, really cute-looking until they opened their mouth showing their razor-like teeth and started to munch on my jacket.

U're not like that are u?
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Reply #4 posted 11/21/02 11:48am

Thecherryloon

if you don't like it, shave your daughters hair off and make her ugly, ban make up, ban barbie dolls (too pretty you see, you don't want to give her ideas on beauty)

And don't tell her it's all Eve's fault that beautiful women are all whores, and that is why she has to dress in potato sacks.let her make her own mind up about what is true or not.

rolleyes
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Reply #5 posted 11/21/02 12:00pm

Drika

Thecherryloon said:

if you don't like it, shave your daughters hair off and make her ugly, ban make up, ban barbie dolls (too pretty you see, you don't want to give her ideas on beauty)

And don't tell her it's all Eve's fault that beautiful women are all whores, and that is why she has to dress in potato sacks.let her make her own mind up about what is true or not.

rolleyes


um...ahem...excuse me Cherry, I really dont think you understand the topic. But that is okay, here let me give it to you in laymans terms: as far as giving my daughter ideas on beauty, it wouldn't matter if I never said one word about it, society does that already...

I never said I told my daughter "it's all Eve's fault that beautiful women are whores" ...are we reading the same thread? If you want to comment perhaps you could actually comment on something I SAID...
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Reply #6 posted 11/21/02 12:03pm

SuperiorTe

Drika said:

Thecherryloon said:

if you don't like it, shave your daughters hair off and make her ugly, ban make up, ban barbie dolls (too pretty you see, you don't want to give her ideas on beauty)

And don't tell her it's all Eve's fault that beautiful women are all whores, and that is why she has to dress in potato sacks.let her make her own mind up about what is true or not.

rolleyes


um...ahem...excuse me Cherry, I really dont think you understand the topic. But that is okay, here let me give it to you in laymans terms: as far as giving my daughter ideas on beauty, it wouldn't matter if I never said one word about it, society does that already...

I never said I told my daughter "it's all Eve's fault that beautiful women are whores" ...are we reading the same thread? If you want to comment perhaps you could actually comment on something I SAID...


Don't bring that superior attitude in here. Leave it at home.
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Reply #7 posted 11/21/02 12:04pm

Thecherryloon

Drika said:

Thecherryloon said:

if you don't like it, shave your daughters hair off and make her ugly, ban make up, ban barbie dolls (too pretty you see, you don't want to give her ideas on beauty)

And don't tell her it's all Eve's fault that beautiful women are all whores, and that is why she has to dress in potato sacks.let her make her own mind up about what is true or not.

rolleyes


um...ahem...excuse me Cherry, I really dont think you understand the topic. But that is okay, here let me give it to you in laymans terms: as far as giving my daughter ideas on beauty, it wouldn't matter if I never said one word about it, society does that already...

I never said I told my daughter "it's all Eve's fault that beautiful women are whores" ...are we reading the same thread? If you want to comment perhaps you could actually comment on something I SAID...


OK i admit i got bored after the first paragraph or so and skipped to the end.

That isn't MY fault!
[This message was edited Thu Nov 21 12:04:48 PST 2002 by Thecherryloon]
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Reply #8 posted 11/21/02 12:06pm

Drika

Thecherryloon said:

Drika said:

Thecherryloon said:

if you don't like it, shave your daughters hair off and make her ugly, ban make up, ban barbie dolls (too pretty you see, you don't want to give her ideas on beauty)

And don't tell her it's all Eve's fault that beautiful women are all whores, and that is why she has to dress in potato sacks.let her make her own mind up about what is true or not.

rolleyes


um...ahem...excuse me Cherry, I really dont think you understand the topic. But that is okay, here let me give it to you in laymans terms: as far as giving my daughter ideas on beauty, it wouldn't matter if I never said one word about it, society does that already...

I never said I told my daughter "it's all Eve's fault that beautiful women are whores" ...are we reading the same thread? If you want to comment perhaps you could actually comment on something I SAID...


OK i admit i got bored after the first paragraph or so and skipped to the end.

That isn't MY fault!
[This message was edited Thu Nov 21 12:04:48 PST 2002 by Thecherryloon]


nod
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Reply #9 posted 11/21/02 12:06pm

SuperiorTe

Thecherryloon said:

Drika said:

Thecherryloon said:

if you don't like it, shave your daughters hair off and make her ugly, ban make up, ban barbie dolls (too pretty you see, you don't want to give her ideas on beauty)

And don't tell her it's all Eve's fault that beautiful women are all whores, and that is why she has to dress in potato sacks.let her make her own mind up about what is true or not.

rolleyes


um...ahem...excuse me Cherry, I really dont think you understand the topic. But that is okay, here let me give it to you in laymans terms: as far as giving my daughter ideas on beauty, it wouldn't matter if I never said one word about it, society does that already...

I never said I told my daughter "it's all Eve's fault that beautiful women are whores" ...are we reading the same thread? If you want to comment perhaps you could actually comment on something I SAID...


OK i admit i got bored after the first paragraph or so and skipped to the end.

That isn't MY fault!
[This message was edited Thu Nov 21 12:04:48 PST 2002 by Thecherryloon]



lol
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Reply #10 posted 11/21/02 12:06pm

SuperiorTe

it's not an easy crowd here.
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Reply #11 posted 11/21/02 12:13pm

Drika

SuperiorTe said:

it's not an easy crowd here.


perhaps Superior, but I have been around for a lil while...I'll take my chances doll.
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Reply #12 posted 11/21/02 12:17pm

POOK

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NO REALLY WHAT WITH THIS EVE THING?

THIS ABOUT CLAW TATTOO OR SOMETHING?

P o o |/,
P o o |\
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Reply #13 posted 11/21/02 12:21pm

SuperiorTe

Drika said:

SuperiorTe said:

it's not an easy crowd here.


perhaps Superior, but I have been around for a lil while...I'll take my chances doll.



doll? WTF


lol
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Reply #14 posted 11/21/02 12:30pm

Thecherryloon

Drika, why are you worrying about looks? i checked your photo thinking you might be butt ugly, how wrong could i be? you're a babe!

Worry about something else instead girl! wink
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Reply #15 posted 11/21/02 12:47pm

SuperiorTe

Drika said:

SuperiorTe said:

it's not an easy crowd here.


perhaps Superior, but I have been around for a lil while...I'll take my chances doll.



Do u usually call guys "doll"? lol
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Reply #16 posted 11/21/02 12:54pm

00769BAD

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SuperiorTe said:

Drika said:

SuperiorTe said:

it's not an easy crowd here.


perhaps Superior, but I have been around for a lil while...I'll take my chances doll.



Do u usually call guys "doll"? lol

IN YOUR CASE, IT IS APPROPRIATE.
if you and i were stranded on an island
WHO DO YOU THINK WOULD BE WEARING PANTIES!!!
now BEFORE YOU ANSWER go read the tread about WHUT MAKES A MAN A PUSSY.
I AM King BAD a.k.a. BAD,
YOU EITHER WANNA BE ME, OR BE JUST LIKE ME

evilking
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Reply #17 posted 11/21/02 12:58pm

Thecherryloon

SuperiorTe said:

Drika said:

SuperiorTe said:

it's not an easy crowd here.


perhaps Superior, but I have been around for a lil while...I'll take my chances doll.



Do u usually call guys "doll"? lol


Who's fault is that?.you've got some bird in your avatar! easy mistake to make.
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Reply #18 posted 11/21/02 1:05pm

SuperiorTe

Thecherryloon said:

SuperiorTe said:

Drika said:

SuperiorTe said:

it's not an easy crowd here.


perhaps Superior, but I have been around for a lil while...I'll take my chances doll.



Do u usually call guys "doll"? lol


Who's fault is that?.you've got some bird in your avatar! easy mistake to make.



"some bird"? "SOME BIRD"? That's me missus your talking about mate.

Get what u mean though. Should know people are too lazy to check profiles.
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Reply #19 posted 11/21/02 1:07pm

SuperiorTe

00769BAD said:

SuperiorTe said:

Drika said:

SuperiorTe said:

it's not an easy crowd here.


perhaps Superior, but I have been around for a lil while...I'll take my chances doll.



Do u usually call guys "doll"? lol

IN YOUR CASE, IT IS APPROPRIATE.
if you and i were stranded on an island
WHO DO YOU THINK WOULD BE WEARING PANTIES!!!
now BEFORE YOU ANSWER go read the tread about WHUT MAKES A MAN A PUSSY.



What is your problem? I'm an amiable enough person aren't I? And why do u want to talk about me wearing panties, are u sick?

Calm down, can u?

Now what Stevie Wonder records do u like best Mr Bad? Perhaps u'd like to tell me.
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Reply #20 posted 11/21/02 1:15pm

Drika

Thecherryloon said:

Drika, why are you worrying about looks? i checked your photo thinking you might be butt ugly, how wrong could i be? you're a babe!

Worry about something else instead girl! wink



LOL, Thank you Cherry. But Ugly?...err...no , that's not how I view myself. The reason I started the thread was to call attention to what a society teaches a young girl and then chastises her for practicing it.

Worry about something else? I do. I worry about the innocent lives that are being lost as a nation is being killed into submission, people who are descriminated against because of their gender, race or religion, the civil liberties that are being taken from me as I sit here typing,women who regarded as less than cattle,little girls who are being sold into sexual slavery, innocent men on death row in Ameirca, the global economy, children forced to work for pennies a day, the oppression umbrella under which I live...

Thank you for the compliment...so you see...I am not living in a superficial world wink
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Reply #21 posted 11/21/02 1:18pm

POOK

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Drika said:

Thecherryloon said:

Drika, why are you worrying about looks? i checked your photo thinking you might be butt ugly, how wrong could i be? you're a babe!

Worry about something else instead girl! wink



LOL, Thank you Cherry. But Ugly?...err...no , that's not how I view myself. The reason I started the thread was to call attention to what a society teaches a young girl and then chastises her for practicing it.

Worry about something else? I do. I worry about the innocent lives that are being lost as a nation is being killed into submission, people who are descriminated against because of their gender, race or religion, the civil liberties that are being taken from me as I sit here typing,women who regarded as less than cattle,little girls who are being sold into sexual slavery, innocent men on death row in Ameirca, the global economy, children forced to work for pennies a day, the oppression umbrella under which I live...

Thank you for the compliment...so you see...I am not living in a superficial world wink



YES YOU DO

STOP FISHING FOR COMPLIMENT AND EXPLAIN THE EVE THING

P o o |/,
P o o |\
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Reply #22 posted 11/21/02 3:28pm

Drika

POOK said:

Drika said:

Thecherryloon said:

Drika, why are you worrying about looks? i checked your photo thinking you might be butt ugly, how wrong could i be? you're a babe!

Worry about something else instead girl! wink



LOL, Thank you Cherry. But Ugly?...err...no , that's not how I view myself. The reason I started the thread was to call attention to what a society teaches a young girl and then chastises her for practicing it.

Worry about something else? I do. I worry about the innocent lives that are being lost as a nation is being killed into submission, people who are descriminated against because of their gender, race or religion, the civil liberties that are being taken from me as I sit here typing,women who regarded as less than cattle,little girls who are being sold into sexual slavery, innocent men on death row in Ameirca, the global economy, children forced to work for pennies a day, the oppression umbrella under which I live...

Thank you for the compliment...so you see...I am not living in a superficial world wink



YES YOU DO

STOP FISHING FOR COMPLIMENT AND EXPLAIN THE EVE THING



I'm explain the Eve thing to you because apparently even that joke went over your head. I used Eve as an example because she manipulated Adam simply by being Eve.(now, paleeeze dont start preaching to me about the Bible...it's just an eample). When the Lord came into The Garden of Eden he called for Adam and he did not answer right away. When he finally did he explained that he did not come right away. When the Lord asked him why he had eaten from the forbidden tree he said "the WOMAN that you gave me brought it to me"(Gen. 3:12) wink Now, I wasn't there I dont know how hard it was for her to maniplate Adam...But instead of Adam taking responsibility for what he had done...he blamed Eve (hence, she obviously manipulated him).

LOL@fishing for compliments
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Reply #23 posted 11/21/02 3:29pm

Drika

POOK said:

Drika said:

Thecherryloon said:

Drika, why are you worrying about looks? i checked your photo thinking you might be butt ugly, how wrong could i be? you're a babe!

Worry about something else instead girl! wink



LOL, Thank you Cherry. But Ugly?...err...no , that's not how I view myself. The reason I started the thread was to call attention to what a society teaches a young girl and then chastises her for practicing it.

Worry about something else? I do. I worry about the innocent lives that are being lost as a nation is being killed into submission, people who are descriminated against because of their gender, race or religion, the civil liberties that are being taken from me as I sit here typing,women who regarded as less than cattle,little girls who are being sold into sexual slavery, innocent men on death row in Ameirca, the global economy, children forced to work for pennies a day, the oppression umbrella under which I live...

Thank you for the compliment...so you see...I am not living in a superficial world wink



YES YOU DO

STOP FISHING FOR COMPLIMENT AND EXPLAIN THE EVE THING



I'll explain the Eve thing to you because apparently even that joke went over your head. I used Eve as an example because she manipulated Adam simply by being Eve.(now, paleeeze dont start preaching to me about the Bible...it's just an example). When the Lord came into The Garden of Eden he called for Adam and he did not answer right away. When he finally did he explained why he did not come right away. When the Lord asked him why he had eaten from the forbidden tree he said "the WOMAN that you gave me brought it to me"(Gen. 3:12) wink Now, I wasn't there I dont know how hard it was for her to maniplate Adam...But instead of Adam taking responsibility for what he had done...he blamed Eve (hence, she obviously manipulated him).

LOL@fishing for compliments
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Reply #24 posted 11/21/02 3:39pm

Thecherryloon

Drika said:

POOK said:

Drika said:

Thecherryloon said:

Drika, why are you worrying about looks? i checked your photo thinking you might be butt ugly, how wrong could i be? you're a babe!

Worry about something else instead girl! wink



LOL, Thank you Cherry. But Ugly?...err...no , that's not how I view myself. The reason I started the thread was to call attention to what a society teaches a young girl and then chastises her for practicing it.

Worry about something else? I do. I worry about the innocent lives that are being lost as a nation is being killed into submission, people who are descriminated against because of their gender, race or religion, the civil liberties that are being taken from me as I sit here typing,women who regarded as less than cattle,little girls who are being sold into sexual slavery, innocent men on death row in Ameirca, the global economy, children forced to work for pennies a day, the oppression umbrella under which I live...

Thank you for the compliment...so you see...I am not living in a superficial world wink



YES YOU DO

STOP FISHING FOR COMPLIMENT AND EXPLAIN THE EVE THING



I'm explain the Eve thing to you because apparently even that joke went over your head. I used Eve as an example because she manipulated Adam simply by being Eve.(now, paleeeze dont start preaching to me about the Bible...it's just an eample). When the Lord came into The Garden of Eden he called for Adam and he did not answer right away. When he finally did he explained that he did not come right away. When the Lord asked him why he had eaten from the forbidden tree he said "the WOMAN that you gave me brought it to me"(Gen. 3:12) wink Now, I wasn't there I dont know how hard it was for her to maniplate Adam...But instead of Adam taking responsibility for what he had done...he blamed Eve (hence, she obviously manipulated him).

LOL@fishing for compliments


A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away..
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Reply #25 posted 11/21/02 6:36pm

NegaTIVity

Guess it's really difficult for most here to understand that all drika was saying is that females should be encouraged to use their brains more than relying on how they look.

And that the reason they usually don't, is because society values female beauty over all else.

(Cliffs Notes version)
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Reply #26 posted 11/21/02 6:53pm

bkw

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Drika said:

Thank you for the compliment...so you see...I am not living in a superficial world wink

Thank god I am. wink
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #27 posted 11/21/02 7:23pm

Drika

NegaTIVity said:

Guess it's really difficult for most here to understand that all drika was saying is that females should be encouraged to use their brains more than relying on how they look.

And that the reason they usually don't, is because society values female beauty over all else.

(Cliffs Notes version)


nod lol@cliff notes
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Reply #28 posted 11/21/02 7:32pm

SkletonKee

if you use att broadband stuff (cable, internet, wireless) you can ask EVA anything...

just click here:

http://help.broadband.att...tactus.jsp



pretty thang with cornrolls and all...
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Reply #29 posted 11/21/02 9:22pm

Ora

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"C this girl in her make-believe world
Plastic Boobs and clip-on curls
Round the pole c her big butt twirl
These r the dreams that do unfurl...Never everlasting"

Thinking maybe lil man got it when he wrote Everlasting Now.
omg Trip Like I Do..!
Another world...another time...in the age of wonder.
Another world...another time...this land was green and good...until the crystal cracked..!
guess..didn't know ya.
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