MuthaFunka said:

I'm way more into ALIEN then Aliens (the sequel basically aped scenes from the first one, had way cheaper special effects/sets/costumes, silly dialogue, and an action movie type Rambo mood, yuck!). It also simplified down the alien life forms as very earthly termite like animals. Not scary anymore in my opinion!

(Aliens was so cheap that instead of making a computer generated landscape for the computer diagram on the spaceship viewscreens like in the first one, they just put strips of light on a model landscape and moved a camera over it)

But I know a lot of mass audiences loved it for being a popcorn action film.

MajesticOne89 said:

Lucky.
I couldn't go out with someone who didn't dig starwars at least a li'l bit.

ufoclub said:

Yikes! Alien had some cheesy SFX . I mean CHEESY! Aliens had far superior effects, of course due to advancement of technology. And yeah, Alien was a near-bore fest while Aliens was action.

MuthaFunka said:

Have you compared the effects/sets/style? Do you know what I'm talking about above with the computer readout? I made a video once that compared scenes of the two back to back. For one thing the first one had a bigger chuck of budget put towards sets, costumes, and hardware, and better artists working on it, and a better director for original intelligent artsy horror: Ridley Scott. Certainly the first one had a very silly main explosion of the oil tankers that looked like a video game graphic.

Compare if you will:

The way the facehugger looks (it's underside)
The way the eggs look and how they open
The way the planet landing looks, the computer readouts, the way the models are lit
The way the planet landscape looks
The way the "alien" sets look
The way the uniforms and costumes look
The hallways, the doors, the lighting
And most importantly, the way the little alien looks when its coming out of the stomach (the way its all staged and acted).

the sequel had cheap movie stylistics: like dream sequences, little girl in peril...


I happen to feel Aliens is a dumbfest... like Rambo...or Commando...

compare these stage designs and their scale:


vs

[Edited 10/9/08 18:22pm]

Um... "Back To The Future" anyone?

'dre

DreZone said:

Terminator was also a good choice

Amaxx said:

i'd love to say dune because i love me some david lynch, but i can't get through that movie. it's beautiful to look at, but damn.

i tried reading the book, too. not a success.

Anxiety said:

Listen...rent the movie, buy a mood-altering vice of your choice (wine, whisky or weed) and watch it again.

The book can be hard to get through, but you should practice first with...say...Lord of the Rings.

I just bought the 6th book in the series & I can't wait to read through it. Herbert does an amazing job at dealing with issues such as religion, destiny, and even human evolution in his complicated story.

So to answer the original question of this thread...I vote; DUNE.

Followed closely by Star Wars (both ESB & ROJ).

Also, an honorable mention goes to;
- Alien
- Enemy Mine
- Blade Runner
- Tron
- Flight Of The Navigator
- Flash Gordon
- Terminator
- The Running Man
...and lets not forget;
- SPACEBALLS!!!

Anxiety said:

Listen...rent the movie, buy a mood-altering vice of your choice (wine, whisky or weed) and watch it again.

The book can be hard to get through, but you should practice first with...say...Lord of the Rings.

I just bought the 6th book in the series & I can't wait to read through it. Herbert does an amazing job at dealing with issues such as religion, destiny, and even human evolution in his complicated story.

So to answer the original question of this thread...I vote; DUNE.

Followed closely by Star Wars (both ESB & ROJ).

Also, an honorable mention goes to;
- Alien
- Enemy Mine
- Blade Runner
- Tron
- Flight Of The Navigator
- Flash Gordon
- Terminator
- The Running Man
...and lets not forget;
- SPACEBALLS!!!

PurpleJedi said:

I like all those
and Last Starfighter too

Your Schwarz is bigger than mine!
The Dune series is great! I'm up to The Chapter House! Children of Dune was my favourite!

Amaxx said:

That's the one that I just bought TODAY!!!!


I actually found "Hunters of Dune" [hardcover!] on the Sale rack at B. Dalton's for $5.98, so if you have one near you GO THERE NOW!!! But I need to read Chapterhouse first. CAN'T WAIT!!!!!

PurpleJedi said:

Is Hunters of Dune the last one Frank Herbert wrote? Because the last 2 were co written by Frank Herbert's son & some other guy since he died in '86!

Amaxx said:

No, I beleive Heretics of Dune was. Chapterhouse was written from his notes. And his son Brian Herbert with Kevin J Anderson (he's also written some Star Wars) wrote Hunters & Sandworms from an outline that they found in a vault (or something like that). I also have House Corrino on hardcover that I am waiting to read afterwards.

lilgish said:

Damn. Forgot ALL about Terminator.

Ok, the TWO best Sci-fi flicks of the 80s - Aliens & Terminator.

ArielB said:

I hated this movie. I went with my family to see it when I was around 14 and at the time I was into Star Wars and laser guns and stuff like that, not sentimental crap like this film.

And by the way, Aliens is WAY better than Alien! Better acting, better story, better concept, better everything! Alien is good, mind you, but Aliens is an all-time classic in my book.

Moonbeam said:

Better acting in Aliens by who? The Mother Bitch Alien? Sigourney is excellent in both, but the first film has a cast to die for: John Hurt, Iam Holm, Veronica Cartwright, etc...

And I like Aliens a lot but the fist one is a frigging masterpiece.PERIOD

garganta said:

Veronica Cartwright can suck my ass- she annoys the hell out of me in the first movie. I thought Sigourney was much better in Aliens, and I think the other characters are better in the sequel as well.

MuthaFunka said:

yep

Tron

...for all the wrapped sausage shots.

MuthaFunka said:

both films by the same dude... J.Cameron..

MuthaFunka said:

both films by the same dude... J.Cameron..