It seems that some people don't understand that you can dislike someone who is not of the same race as you without being a racist.

Here is my theory: Just because a black man hates a white man or a white man hates a black man on an individual basis, it does not mean that they are racists.

Do you think that it is possible that people might dislike certain PEOPLE of other races but not entire RACES of people, and might not the dislike that they feel be related to actions performed by the person and not generalize to the entire race? I think that this is so.

I truly believe that it is perfectly okay for people to hate other people if they want to as long as they don't hate ALL people of other races based on ignorance and bigotry. I fully support everyone's right to love or hate others at their discretion.

What do you think? Am I totally off and are we in a situation where we can only hate individuals of our own race?

To further clarify: If I hate a single Mexican it doesn't mean that I hate ALL mexicans, etc.

EDIT: If some dumbass says that ALL black people or ALL white people are sub-human, they are a racist fuck and should be beaten to death.

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[This message was edited Wed Nov 20 12:34:48 PST 2002 by IceNine]

I can't believe I actually agree with you on something Ice.It's not all just babble that comes forth from you after all huh ??? U know I'm just kidding this is not the first time you made sense much love to you ol' grouch !!

I can't remember the comedian who said it, but it went something like this:
"Why hate people because of their color, or creed, or sexual preference, etc...when there are so many other reasons to hate people?"

I hate all races equally including my own.The human race is a pestilence.

If you hate a person of a race, then yes. If you hate a person, then no.

LaVisHh said:

Let's say that I hate someone who is whatever race... that doesn't mean that I hate all people of that race, it means that I hate the dumb asshole who did something that made me hate them...

I hate people on an individual basis and don't engage in wholesale hating of entire races... damn, that would be a fucking stupid thing to do.

Thecherryloon said:

I wouldn't go that far, but I would say that there are a fair number of idiots in the world. It doesn't even just come down to individual opinion because, lets face it, some are better equipped to judge than others. If not we would all have to concede that Celine Dion is good when even mildly enlightened individuals know otherwise.

No, there are just some people in this world that suck at being, and those with the ability to see that do. It's not racism.

Not in my case anyway.

I think that if your hatred of that individual pertains to his skin color at all than I would term that as racist, obviously. If your hatred is based on other issues such as personal ones, then that is not being racist towards that person.

This comes down to the philosophical issue of "quality".

IceNine said:

Precisely...therefore, why even mention his/her race? Just say I hate PersonsName...that's my point.

Lleena said:

But if it was based on his/her views or opinions u'd probably get labelled an "opinionist" and be carted away by the PC police.

Anal.

Seriously if some clown isn't looking where they are going and barges into me, my first and last thought is "wanker".Colour doesn't come into it for me, Though i'll admit i might momentarily hold a grudge against that person, whatever the colour, depending on if an apology is forthcoming.

That's normal isn't it?

It's totally possible. I hate when freaks stand up and call you a racist for making your opinions about someone of color known. I HATE the father of my sister's kids and he's Japanese, but he's the only Japanese person I have a problem with.

I'm in total agreement with you, Ice Ice Baby.

I would like to add though that I don't hate anyone , apart from those low life fuckers who live on the council housing estate down the road from me.

LaVisHh said:

You are quite right... there is no need to mention someone's race at all... but it keeps coming up any time you say something about disliking someone.

If I said, "I hate Michael Jordan" many people would call me a racist for some stupid fucking reason.

You see my point? I am talking about saying that you hate someone but not specifying their race at all and being called a racist because the person belonged to the white, black or other race.

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[This message was edited Wed Nov 20 13:03:01 PST 2002 by IceNine]

bkk1981 said:

Maybe I didn't explain myself very well. I was trying to say that if you hate a person who happens to be of a different ethnic origin to yourself than you have to ask yourself what this hatred is based on. I believe that it is possible to dislike a person based on personal reasons and that it doesn't always boil down to racism.

IceNine said:

You have Micheal Jordon??...Where you keepin' him??...Damn, man, if you're keepin' black folks, maybe you ARE racist..

8)

Of course much of it comes down to the deep psychological feelings of white= good and light, clean and shiny, and black= dirty, smelly, dull and dark.

It's just the way it is and maybe deep down it's hard to shake. In many walks of life in ways completely unrelated to ethnicity black or dark is a bad thing, or is portrayed in a negative way.

Black peole drew the short straw.

Silly really, it's only colour.

wellbeyond said:

Goddamn you! I just edited that!!!

You beat me to it, you prick!

Lleena said:

Well... tend to hate considerably more white people than black people. I believe that the number of people of a certain race that I hate is a function of the number of members of that race that I come in contact with.

Is that racism? No.

IceNine said:

Ah, but you didn't mention my skin color...therefore, calling me a prick is NOT an indication that you're racist...

Now, holding Micheal J. hostage is another matter...

I don't think you need to convince anyone that you are not a racist, because I don't think anyone who reads your posts would come away with this impression, unless thay have a giant sized axe to grind.

IceNine said:

Yes, I do.

Want me to give it to you plain and simple? I think those who cry race at the drop of a hat, tend to be sensitive to the issue. Whether the sensitivity came through experience, teachings, or media.

I believe that the way we all handle the way we think, is directly related to what's been fed into our minds since birth.

Here are some examples:

If you grow up overweight and get teased all your life because of it, you become sensitive with regards to weight. You hear people talking nasty about someone large, the first thing you think is, "they don't like him/her because he/she is overweight".

If you have been taught that you will be judged by the color of your skin, then you become sensitive to that.

So if you see people expressing dislike or anger towards a person, the most obvious characteristic about them is their appearance.

I was reading this thread and it looked kinda like this:

Blah, blah, blah, blabbitty, blah, blah. Yadda, yadda, race, blah blah.

Then it went on 2 sound like this...

Yadda, yadda yadda, yadditty, yadda yadda. Blah, blah, race issues, yadda yadda.

Then I saw this statement:

To further clarify: If I hate a single Mexican it doesn't mean that I hate ALL mexicans, etc.

Since u refer 2 Mexicans in ur example, I must conclude that u really hate ALL Mexicans...

Therefore, I now hate u.




(note: skipping over text is dangerous)

June7 said:

:LOL:

Hello, I have an axe, where can I grind it?





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I would have to say it depends.

Just as each individual should be judged on an individual basis, so should each situation.

Oftentimes, people will mask their racism because it's not accepted in polite society anymore... BUT there are other indicators that raise red flags.

These are hard to list, but it's like the Supreme Court definition of pornography and obscenity--you kind of know it when you see/hear it.

It's so unfortunate that racism had to go hide in the closet. It makes it so much harder to know who to waste smiles on.

It can hide in threads about the word "nigger".




"can".

NuPwrSoul said:

Damned fine point...