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Reply #60 posted 08/18/08 6:55am

Stymie

Tremolina said:

TRUST.
Absolutely and a big heaping serving of respect and honesty.
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Reply #61 posted 08/18/08 7:13am

Imago

Stymie said:

Imago said:

When the chips are down, most people won't be there for you. So unconditional support is normally not something I tack on to the requirements for friendship. Everybody has their own demons to tackle, and I've always been big on being able to handle one's own affairs. I've sometimes come across as cold and uncaring to friends when I'm not always there for them, but I've always found that they never took into account what I was going through during their own times of need. I've let friends live with me rent free for months to get their lives back on track, only to have them turn my house into a playboy mansion complete with ex-wives showing up at my door to slash their wrists (true story), then to never hear from my friends again once they've left. I've loaned friends money, support, my car, etc. etc., and still to no avail. When the chips are down, sometimes you're your ownly friend.

We each have our own arbitrary requirements of what we want out of our friends. Hence what we consider a "True" friend to be really just serves our own selfish ends anyways, doesn't it? Even if those needs are noble or basic ones (trust, kindness, mutual respect, etc.), they still serve our own selfish needs.

If you're healthy, not living on skid row, and your friends seem to still be abandoning you, it could very well say more about you than it does about them.
I want to go on, but I've lost my train of thought. I'm rather horny today. shrug
Great post Dan.


Thanks Ivy.
I'm really not jaded or bitter about it. I'm just being realistic. It's wonderful to have great friends, but they're only human. I find it best to rely on myself.
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Reply #62 posted 08/18/08 7:19am

HamsterHuey

Natisse was not so happy with your post, Dan. She deleted her account.

hmm
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Reply #63 posted 08/18/08 7:23am

pardonme4livin

HamsterHuey said:

Natisse was not so happy with your post, Dan. She deleted her account.

hmm


For like the 20th time...she'll be back....they ALWAYS come back... (stop staring at my ass Herman....) lol
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Reply #64 posted 08/18/08 7:24am

HamsterHuey

pardonme4livin said:

HamsterHuey said:

Natisse was not so happy with your post, Dan. She deleted her account.

hmm


For like the 20th time...she'll be back....they ALWAYS come back... (stop staring at my ass Herman....) lol


I know she does. She's got a lunar cycle or sumthing. I told her I'd spank her if she ever did it again. That will be a sight to see, next time we meet.

And stop wearing jockstraps, then turn your back. You know you want it, bitch.
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Reply #65 posted 08/18/08 7:25am

Imago

HamsterHuey said:

Natisse was not so happy with your post, Dan. She deleted her account.

hmm



falloff

The funny thing is that I already knew Nat had deleted her account prior to even checking. lol



I suspect this thread is a personal orgnote disquised as a general discussion thread actually. hmmm




Wherever she is I wish her well. And I'm sure she'll be back better for it. hug
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Reply #66 posted 08/18/08 7:26am

Imago

pardonme4livin said:

HamsterHuey said:

Natisse was not so happy with your post, Dan. She deleted her account.

hmm


For like the 20th time...she'll be back....they ALWAYS come back... (stop staring at my ass Herman....) lol



Ken.


You still owe me a pic.


I mean it.
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Reply #67 posted 08/18/08 7:28am

HamsterHuey

Imago said:

I suspect this thread is a personal orgnote disquised as a general discussion thread actually. hmmm


That's another reason she is getting a spanking!

cool
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Reply #68 posted 08/18/08 7:53am

pardonme4livin

lurking
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Reply #69 posted 08/18/08 7:58am

HamsterHuey

pardonme4livin said:

lurking


So. What do you want. Natisse is gone. We got the room all to ourselves.

cool
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Reply #70 posted 08/18/08 7:58am

Imago

HamsterHuey said:

Imago said:

I suspect this thread is a personal orgnote disquised as a general discussion thread actually. hmmm


That's another reason she is getting a spanking!

cool

lol


Now if you can bend Ken over your knees, I'd like to see that.
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Reply #71 posted 08/18/08 7:59am

HamsterHuey

Imago said:

HamsterHuey said:



That's another reason she is getting a spanking!

cool

lol


Now if you can bend Ken over your knees, I'd like to see that.


Dumb-ass. Ken will be spanking ME...

Jeez. You got a LOT to learn.
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Reply #72 posted 08/18/08 8:04am

Imago

Natisse said:

A true friend is NOT someone who plays emotional games with you by using apathy and tones in thier voice they know or sense push your buttons in a negative way...

question

Yeah, this is definately a message aimed at somebody here. lol



Nat, Nat, Nat. comfort
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Reply #73 posted 08/18/08 8:28am

Mach

neutral

She just started posting again and now she is gone again


hmm

ahh well
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Reply #74 posted 08/18/08 9:06am

RodeoSchro

Natisse said:

What are the qualities/characteristics you'd say are part of a 'true friend'

hmmm


A friend will come bail you out of jail, but a TRUE friend will be sitting in the cell with you, saying, "Wow, we sure fucked up, didn't we?"
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Reply #75 posted 08/18/08 10:55am

Byron

Imago said:


We each have our own arbitrary requirements of what we want out of our friends. Hence what we consider a "True" friend to be really just serves our own selfish ends anyways, doesn't it? Even if those needs are noble or basic ones (trust, kindness, mutual respect, etc.), they still serve our own selfish needs.

I think the overwhelming majority of relationships of all kinds are simply need fulfillment agreements...friendships, romantic relationships, marriages, etc..."You agree to fulfill my needs and I'll agree to fulfill yours, deal?"...

It seems as if the people who are best able to fulfill their own needs tend to need fewer "friends" and lovers in their life, and tend to take their time entering into relationships with both.

And I agree about what we consider to be a "true" friend usually just ends up being a wish list of what we want moreso than a list of what we should strive to be nod (although I'll say my list was composed of both things I've seen in my true friends and things I've strived to be to them).
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Reply #76 posted 08/18/08 11:06am

pardonme4livin

Imago said:

HamsterHuey said:



That's another reason she is getting a spanking!

cool

lol


Now if you can bend Ken over your knees, I'd like to see that.


eek
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Reply #77 posted 08/18/08 11:07am

pardonme4livin

HamsterHuey said:

pardonme4livin said:

lurking


So. What do you want. Natisse is gone. We got the room all to ourselves.

cool


lol redface
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Reply #78 posted 08/18/08 12:43pm

HamsterHuey

pardonme4livin said:

HamsterHuey said:



So. What do you want. Natisse is gone. We got the room all to ourselves.

cool


lol redface


Let's just cuddle and let me nonchalantly nibble on ya, ermmm earlobe.

I mean, I gotta start somewhere.
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Reply #79 posted 08/18/08 2:00pm

G0d

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Friends and Friendship
From A to Z

What is a friend?

Someone who...


Accepts you as you are,

Believes in "you",

Calls you just to say "HI",

Doesn't give up on you,

Envisions the whole of you (even the unfinished parts),

Forgives your mistakes,

Gives unconditionally,

Helps you,

Inspires you to be the best you can be,

Just happy to be with you,

Keeps you close at heart,

Loves you for who you are,

Makes a difference in your life,

Never judges,

Offers support,

Picks you up,

Quiets your fears,

Raises your spirits,

Says nice things about you,

Tells you the truth when you need to hear it,

Understands you,

Values you,

Walks beside you,

X-plains things you don't understand,

Yells when you won't listen and

Zaps you back to reality.

heart
"LOVE YOURSELF AS ALL PEOPLE"
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Reply #80 posted 08/18/08 5:47pm

wildgoldenhone
y

BIGBANG said:

a true friend is someone who wont toy with you or lie to you, someone who is honest, genuine and respectful of you, someone who doesnt make presumptions about you, and definitely someone who isnt paranoid about your intentions, someone who includes you, thinks of you, loves you, is there for you when you need someone to talk to, someone who gives advice and doesnt expect you to take it, someone who will let you be who you are, someone who doesnt mind if you're good at something, someone who doesnt get jealous if you have something they don't, someone who can be happy for you when you are happy, someone who KNOWS WHEN TO LEAVE YOU BE, someone who doesnt front or be insincere, someone who loves you unconditionally and lets you grow in your own way and your own time without rejecting you or making you feel unworthy of their friendship, someone who doesnt plot against you behind your back, someone who wont try to steal your boyfriend or girlfriend, someone who seeks to understand you if you have a communication breakdown, someone who listens to you and believes you and someone you can trust to always just be here, someone who can forgive you and someone with an open heart to understand and keep giving you their friendship with unconditional love, imo.


Boy, for unconditional love, these sure are a lot of conditions to be met.
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Reply #81 posted 08/18/08 5:49pm

wildgoldenhone
y

G0d said:

Friends and Friendship
From A to Z

What is a friend?

Someone who...


Accepts you as you are,

Believes in "you",

Calls you just to say "HI",

Doesn't give up on you,

Envisions the whole of you (even the unfinished parts),

Forgives your mistakes,

Gives unconditionally,

Helps you,

Inspires you to be the best you can be,

Just happy to be with you,

Keeps you close at heart,

Loves you for who you are,

Makes a difference in your life,

Never judges,

Offers support,

Picks you up,

Quiets your fears,

Raises your spirits,

Says nice things about you,

Tells you the truth when you need to hear it,

Understands you,

Values you,

Walks beside you,

X-plains things you don't understand,

Yells when you won't listen and

Zaps you back to reality.

heart

Nice.
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