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Reply #60 posted 08/12/08 11:20am

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Jeffiner said:

artpal said:



Agreed. Does it take people a while to get you know your inner beauty?


I've experienced a lot of jealousy, usually from women of course, and mostly in the past when I was younger - I've got a child now, and I'm older - shit! So I think that makes you more 'acceptable'! They would make a judgement about you, before even trying to get to know you, or they wouldn't even WANT to get to know you. I've been ostracised from whole groups of women, just because they saw me as some kind of 'threat' - sad but true. At the time, I would be really hurt and confused thinking 'what have I done, why don't they like me', only in hindsight realising what was really going on! It's almost as if you have to 'prove' yourself to be a nice person, rather than people just assuming that you are straight off. I would overcompensate by being REALLY friendly and trying too hard probably! It used to be hard work! If you chatted to their boyfriends / husbands, you would see their hackles rising and that 'look' in their eye! A lot of times I'd end up with the guys, because they would actually 'talk' to me lol!! Of course, that just made things worse! wink And, no, I don't believe most beautiful people really believe that they are, deep down, they see flaws like everyone else. I think beautiful women are more insecure than anyone else! It's trying to 'live up' to the image all the time maybe, or worrying that you might have 'lost it'! I'm not comparing myself to people like Beyonce for instance, or other REALLY beautiful women, because I'm not in that league at ALL, but like I say others have told me, and that's been my experience! Is this for 'research'? Weren't you writing a book or something?

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Reply #61 posted 08/12/08 11:20am

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CarrieLee said:

Jeffiner said:



Or that OTHER PEOPLE consider that to be so about your appearance, not necessarily yourself!



Oh please you know you're hot!

wink

Jennifer is HELLA hot!
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Reply #62 posted 08/12/08 11:26am

Jeffiner

blackguitaristz said:

CarrieLee said:




Oh please you know you're hot!

wink

Jennifer is HELLA hot!


lol Ahhh...thanks! You're not bad yourself! wink
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Reply #63 posted 08/12/08 1:26pm

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Jeffiner said:

artpal said:



Agreed. Does it take people a while to get you know your inner beauty?


I've experienced a lot of jealousy, usually from women of course, and mostly in the past when I was younger - I've got a child now, and I'm older - shit! So I think that makes you more 'acceptable'! They would make a judgement about you, before even trying to get to know you, or they wouldn't even WANT to get to know you. I've been ostracised from whole groups of women, just because they saw me as some kind of 'threat' - sad but true. At the time, I would be really hurt and confused thinking 'what have I done, why don't they like me', only in hindsight realising what was really going on! It's almost as if you have to 'prove' yourself to be a nice person, rather than people just assuming that you are straight off. I would overcompensate by being REALLY friendly and trying too hard probably! It used to be hard work! If you chatted to their boyfriends / husbands, you would see their hackles rising and that 'look' in their eye! A lot of times I'd end up with the guys, because they would actually 'talk' to me lol!! Of course, that just made things worse! wink And, no, I don't believe most beautiful people really believe that they are, deep down, they see flaws like everyone else. I think beautiful women are more insecure than anyone else! It's trying to 'live up' to the image all the time maybe, or worrying that you might have 'lost it'! I'm not comparing myself to people like Beyonce for instance, or other REALLY beautiful women, because I'm not in that league at ALL, but like I say others have told me, and that's been my experience! Is this for 'research'? Weren't you writing a book or something?

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biggrin I thought you'd never ask - I just finished my film "Beauty: In the Eyes of the Beheld" where I interviewed women just like you and got all kinds of interesting stories. Yours sound very familiar. www.beautydocumentary.com biggrin

Now back to our regularly scheduled program... boxed biggrin
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Reply #64 posted 08/12/08 1:41pm

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JustErin said:

Jeffiner said:



thumbs up! Phew... you don't hate me then?!! lol


Why would I hate you? lol


Jeffiner and JustErin, thank you for your honest answers. I know from making my film that it is scary as all h--- to talk about yourself being considered "beautiful." One of the women I interviewed had to be punked and when she found out the REAL reason she was being interviewed, she disappeared on me and I had to finish the film without her further cooperation.
The blessings and curses of being beautiful - a documentary
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Read about my experiences working with Prince and Robin Power
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Reply #65 posted 08/12/08 1:46pm

Stymie

don't make any generalizations about people based on the way they look. I tend not to think anything about anyone until I've had a conversation with them. I have my female friends but mostly male ones and even though I am not considered conventionally beautiful or attractive, women still get jealous of me. So it's kinda like what Jeffiner said but in reverse.

I do wonder what it is like to be considered one of the beautiful ones but seeing as you guys have your issues, too, I'm fine as I am. cool
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Reply #66 posted 08/12/08 1:48pm

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artpal said:

JustErin said:



Why would I hate you? lol


Jeffiner and JustErin, thank you for your honest answers. I know from making my film that it is scary as all h--- to talk about yourself being considered "beautiful." One of the women I interviewed had to be punked and when she found out the REAL reason she was being interviewed, she disappeared on me and I had to finish the film without her further cooperation.


Because she knew that a backlash against her would happen. No one seems to like to hear people say that they know that others think they are beautiful.

It's like everyone wants to be considered beautiful but you're not allowed to admit it when you actually are considered beautiful.
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Reply #67 posted 08/12/08 1:50pm

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thekidsgirl said:


lol So cute.
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Reply #68 posted 08/12/08 1:53pm

Stymie

JustErin said:

artpal said:



Jeffiner and JustErin, thank you for your honest answers. I know from making my film that it is scary as all h--- to talk about yourself being considered "beautiful." One of the women I interviewed had to be punked and when she found out the REAL reason she was being interviewed, she disappeared on me and I had to finish the film without her further cooperation.


Because she knew that a backlash against her would happen. No one seems to like to hear people say that they know that others think they are beautiful.

It's like everyone wants to be considered beautiful but you're not allowed to admit it when you actually are considered beautiful.
Sometimes it's considered arroagance and for me, arrogance is a instant turnoff. In a way, it's like announcing something everyone already knows and then it becomes: who gives a fuck?
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Reply #69 posted 08/12/08 1:54pm

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Stymie said:

JustErin said:



Because she knew that a backlash against her would happen. No one seems to like to hear people say that they know that others think they are beautiful.

It's like everyone wants to be considered beautiful but you're not allowed to admit it when you actually are considered beautiful.
Sometimes it's considered arroagance and for me, arrogance is a instant turnoff. In a way, it's like announcing something everyone already knows and then it becomes: who gives a fuck?


But there is a difference between announcing it and responding to a question, even responding to a question seems to cause a backlash.
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Reply #70 posted 08/12/08 1:54pm

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JustErin said:

artpal said:



Jeffiner and JustErin, thank you for your honest answers. I know from making my film that it is scary as all h--- to talk about yourself being considered "beautiful." One of the women I interviewed had to be punked and when she found out the REAL reason she was being interviewed, she disappeared on me and I had to finish the film without her further cooperation.


Because she knew that a backlash against her would happen. No one seems to like to hear people say that they know that others think they are beautiful.

It's like everyone wants to be considered beautiful but you're not allowed to admit it when you actually are considered beautiful.


I think they also genuinely don't feel that way most of the time. People see their own flaws and look at other beautiful people with insecurities.

Of course it's different when you are a model and professionally made up. But I think even the most average people would feel beautiful with great hair, clothes, makeup.
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Reply #71 posted 08/12/08 2:09pm

artpal

JustErin said:

Stymie said:

Sometimes it's considered arroagance and for me, arrogance is a instant turnoff. In a way, it's like announcing something everyone already knows and then it becomes: who gives a fuck?


But there is a difference between announcing it and responding to a question, even responding to a question seems to cause a backlash.


It's okay to say you're smart or generous etc. - even when you announce it. Not so for being considered beautiful.

I just thought of something - there's probably a large group of "beautiful" lurkers reading this thread wondering whether or not they should say something. lol C'mon you guys, it's okay - I'm asking you a question. wink
The blessings and curses of being beautiful - a documentary
http://www.beautydocumentary.com

Read about my experiences working with Prince and Robin Power
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Reply #72 posted 08/12/08 2:15pm

Stymie

JustErin said:

Stymie said:

Sometimes it's considered arroagance and for me, arrogance is a instant turnoff. In a way, it's like announcing something everyone already knows and then it becomes: who gives a fuck?


But there is a difference between announcing it and responding to a question, even responding to a question seems to cause a backlash.
Really? I haven't seen any on this thread.
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Reply #73 posted 08/12/08 2:18pm

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Stymie said:

JustErin said:



But there is a difference between announcing it and responding to a question, even responding to a question seems to cause a backlash.
Really? I haven't seen any on this thread.


I was talking about that chick who wanted out when she found out what it was really about.

And no, no backlash in this thread....not this time. lol

Hardly anyone is posting in it period - just a couple of people.
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Reply #74 posted 08/12/08 3:04pm

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I had been avoiding this thread, but you know what?

It's pretty fucking sweet.
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Reply #75 posted 08/12/08 4:31pm

artpal

Mars23 said:

I had been avoiding this thread, but you know what?

It's pretty fucking sweet.



Why were you avoiding it? What thoughts came to your mind? sad
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The blessings and curses of being beautiful - a documentary
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Reply #76 posted 08/12/08 4:34pm

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What's dating like? biggrin
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Reply #77 posted 08/12/08 4:35pm

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Fuckin Great! woot!



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Reply #78 posted 08/12/08 5:02pm

Fauxie

Jeffiner said:

CarrieLee said:




Oh please you know you're hot!

wink


lol I'm so hot I can hardly sleep with myself ... Oh no, we're not in Music and More - oops! wink


Yeah, don't bring that shit in here, beauty queen. rolleyes
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Reply #79 posted 08/12/08 5:09pm

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Fauxie said:

Jeffiner said:



lol I'm so hot I can hardly sleep with myself ... Oh no, we're not in Music and More - oops! wink


Yeah, don't bring that shit in here, beauty queen. rolleyes

Hey Fauxie...I believe she was just joking around.
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Reply #80 posted 08/12/08 5:13pm

Fauxie

blackguitaristz said:

Fauxie said:



Yeah, don't bring that shit in here, beauty queen. rolleyes

Hey Fauxie...I believe she was just joking around.


No. It seemed harmless enough but I can read between the lines and even her typed words had this air about them that suggested they knew they were pretty. It's time to put the good-looking in their place. Children should be seen but not heard. These people should be seen on magazine covers and then herded into woodchippers.

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Reply #81 posted 08/12/08 5:29pm

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Fauxie said:

blackguitaristz said:


Hey Fauxie...I believe she was just joking around.


No. It seemed harmless enough but I can read between the lines and even her typed words had this air about them that suggested they knew they were pretty. It's time to put the good-looking in their place. Children should be seen but not heard. These people should be seen on magazine covers and then herded into woodchippers.

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^^^You are a mess! lol


btw I saw this thread when it was started but I didn't answer it because I don't want any 'backlash' as Erin has said. People have told me told me many times that I'm beautiful so I'll respond even though Jeffiner pretty much summed it up. Sometimes I get away with things but most of the time I work really hard to get the things I need in life. I don't get along with a lot of women (except a few) or I end up with what you call 'frienemies'-they like me but hate me at the same time lol It is assumed that I am stuck up and it is assumed that I get my way. It bothers me a lot that I always have issues with other women instead of the sisterhood that I wish I had like I have with my sisters and my mother. My younger sister is very very beautiful. Since she was in grade school she had to fight her way out of jealous girls. But once they saw she wasn't a punk and kicked that ass they just gossiped about her behind her back falloff
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Reply #82 posted 08/12/08 5:29pm

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Fauxie said:

blackguitaristz said:


Hey Fauxie...I believe she was just joking around.


No. It seemed harmless enough but I can read between the lines and even her typed words had this air about them that suggested they knew they were pretty. It's time to put the good-looking in their place. Children should be seen but not heard. These people should be seen on magazine covers and then herded into woodchippers.

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"Even her typed words had this air about them" Damn...wow, you read into all of that? You saying that her typed words knew that THEY were pretty or that her typed words knew that SHE was pretty? (smile)
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Reply #83 posted 08/12/08 5:40pm

Fauxie

blackguitaristz said:

Fauxie said:



No. It seemed harmless enough but I can read between the lines and even her typed words had this air about them that suggested they knew they were pretty. It's time to put the good-looking in their place. Children should be seen but not heard. These people should be seen on magazine covers and then herded into woodchippers.

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[Edited 8/12/08 17:16pm]

"Even her typed words had this air about them" Damn...wow, you read into all of that? You saying that her typed words knew that THEY were pretty or that her typed words knew that SHE was pretty? (smile)


Look, there was just a whole load of prettiness and a whole load of knowing, ok? Don't start with me, blackguitaristz. I haven't looked at your profile but I'm willing to bet you're attractive! mad
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Reply #84 posted 08/12/08 5:40pm

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artpal said:

For beautiful people: What is it like to be considered physically beautiful?

For everyone else: What do you think it is like to be considered physically beautiful?
[Edited 8/11/08 20:03pm]
[Edited 8/11/08 20:15pm]

I dont think there is such a thing as absolute beauty, everybody have their own preference.
Some people think im ugly, some say i should become a model.
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Reply #85 posted 08/12/08 5:43pm

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Gimmesomehorns said:

artpal said:

For beautiful people: What is it like to be considered physically beautiful?

For everyone else: What do you think it is like to be considered physically beautiful?
[Edited 8/11/08 20:03pm]
[Edited 8/11/08 20:15pm]

I dont think there is such a thing as absolute beauty, everybody have their own preference.
Some people think im ugly, some say i should become a model.
[Edited 8/12/08 17:41pm]


You could be an ugly model. smile
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Reply #86 posted 08/12/08 5:44pm

honeypot69

falloff
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Reply #87 posted 08/12/08 5:45pm

artpal

JustErin said:


And no, no backlash in this thread....not this time. lol



How 'bout now? giggle


Oh - look what time it is!!! Good night everyone! lol
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The blessings and curses of being beautiful - a documentary
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Reply #88 posted 08/12/08 5:46pm

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Fauxie said:

blackguitaristz said:


"Even her typed words had this air about them" Damn...wow, you read into all of that? You saying that her typed words knew that THEY were pretty or that her typed words knew that SHE was pretty? (smile)


Look, there was just a whole load of prettiness and a whole load of knowing, ok? Don't start with me, blackguitaristz. I haven't looked at your profile but I'm willing to bet you're attractive! mad

Haha..aaahhh,...well damn...I'm guilty as charged then!
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Reply #89 posted 08/12/08 5:56pm

honeypot69

Maybe the author should not have made this thread. Interesting how people are more open about bra sizes, bodily fluids, farts, sex etc etc but not this thread. As liberal as this site claims to be there are still some things that are not appropriate or PC enough to get into.
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