Fauxie said:

of course u would!

ahhhhh who cares.
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ask japan singer kaya
[Edited 8/11/08 21:52pm]

roodboi said:

you could even START the hunk thread!!

Fauxie said:

Okay. I fucked that one up.

Mysterioso said:

Well yes. What you needed to do was post the hottest pic you could find (on your computer, google etc.) and then talk about how much of a burden it is to be so attractive.

Fauxie said:

Perhaps this is true.

You get more things from people a lot easier. People are willing to overlook stupid mistakes you make. More people want to get to know you and hang around you no matter your personality. This is what I've noticed about the stunning people I've seen when observing the people aroud them and the situations and how I've even acted to some. Especially in the nightlife. It's like people are under a spell by them. Life is definietly a tad easier when you're beautiful.

Arnotts said:

not necessarily.
people can get pretty obsessed with a "beautiful" person.
and it's not a very nice thought people only like you for your looks.

Tremolina said:

indeed
I read somewhere that the better looking candidate always gets the job even though their credentials might be exactly the same or slightly lower than an average looking candidate. It opens doors that's for sure
Conversely, after interviewing and choosing housemates for a sharehouse over the years, I learned the best looking ones were not really the best housemates (except for that that one guy ) I wonder if in some cases, the extra beautiful may get discriminated against like for example date a hot chick but marry the plain jane?

Tremolina said:

Yeah, thats why I said a tad, it's not a hell of a lot easier, but it helps

ZombieKitten said:

Yes that one is definitely true, seen it happen too many times, and also which I'll never understand. But it's the only example I can think of where they would be.

artpal said:

I KNOW you're beautiful artpal!

Ok, I'm not sure whether I should post on here, because people might hate me!! Da da!!

But, I think it's interesting! I'm not saying that I, personally think I'm beautiful, because usually all I see when I look in the mirror are my flaws, and what's not right etc. TOTALLY! But throughout my life people have TOLD me I'm really pretty or even beautiful, which I always find really hard to believe actually, it's like 'oh yeah, right, they must be drunk, blind, crazy - they should see me without my make up on'!! But, I think it's a double-edged sword - on the one hand it opens doors, gets you attention, jobs, and there are benefits. On the other hand, people feel 'threatened' by you, act like your going to steal their man, think that you aren't going to be a very nice 'person'...etc. etc. I think REALLY beautiful people can probably be quite lonely at times! Also, I think it's harder for beautiful people to age too, if some of your identity is tied up in how you look, mostly because of other people saying it, then I think it's probably a lot harder to come to terms with getting 'older'!!

But, yes it's all in the eye of the beholder, and being beautiful on the inside is the most important thing in the end.... as we all know!

roodboi said:

they are both good posts...I do agree

Jeffiner said:[quote]

artpal said:

Has that been your experience?



Almost every beautiful woman I talk to says exactly the same thing. I wonder if anyone believes they REALLY have the "prize."




Good points!



Agreed. Does it take people a while to get you know your inner beauty?

artpal said:[quote]

Jeffiner said:

I've experienced a lot of jealousy, usually from women of course, and mostly in the past when I was younger - I've got a child now, and I'm older - shit! So I think that makes you more 'acceptable'! They would make a judgement about you, before even trying to get to know you, or they wouldn't even WANT to get to know you. I've been ostracised from whole groups of women, just because they saw me as some kind of 'threat' - sad but true. At the time, I would be really hurt and confused thinking 'what have I done, why don't they like me', only in hindsight realising what was really going on! It's almost as if you have to 'prove' yourself to be a nice person, rather than people just assuming that you are straight off. I would overcompensate by being REALLY friendly and trying too hard probably! It used to be hard work! If you chatted to their boyfriends / husbands, you would see their hackles rising and that 'look' in their eye! A lot of times I'd end up with the guys, because they would actually 'talk' to me lol!! Of course, that just made things worse! And, no, I don't believe most beautiful people really believe that they are, deep down, they see flaws like everyone else. I think beautiful women are more insecure than anyone else! It's trying to 'live up' to the image all the time maybe, or worrying that you might have 'lost it'! I'm not comparing myself to people like Beyonce for instance, or other REALLY beautiful women, because I'm not in that league at ALL, but like I say others have told me, and that's been my experience! Is this for 'research'? Weren't you writing a book or something?


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I agree with pretty much everything Jeffiner has said.

JustErin said:

Phew... you don't hate me then?!!

Jeffiner said:

Why would I hate you?

JustErin said:

Just referring back to my first post! You've obviously experienced the same thing though!

Jeffiner said:

Why anyone would hate you because you're considered pretty/beautiful/attractive/whatever by others is beyond anything I can personally understand.

It is what it is. If people have told you these things, they've told you. There is nothing wrong with talking about that fact.

JustErin said:

See, that's just it...some people DO hate others for being attractive and even more for admitting it. Fucked up eh?

People tell me I'm pretty and I do have pretty days, I also have horrible fat ugly days and don't want to leave the house. It all depends on the day and my mood. I will say that the majority of my friends are male and females hate me for it. I'm always accused of having some kind of affair with them. Redic.

Maybe I should just start...some of them are hot.

CarrieLee said:

It is totally fucked up.

I understand that it's mostly based on envy...but I totally don't get why people who admit to being considered beautiful are looked at as horrible people, or are bragging about it.

It's like we're supposed to love ourselves but the second someone who actually is beautiful talks about being beautiful, they're horrible, shallow people.

And it always seems to be women on women hate.

Lame.

WOW! This thread is actually interesting!

I'll leave the debate concerning the philosophical aspects of "beauty" to the rest of you. As for the initial question, (since I'm not a "physically beautiful" person), I'll address the latter question;

I beleive that to consider oneself "physically beautiful" is to beleive that one's outward appearance is better/greater/higher than what is considered the social norm for one's culture/society.

We've all seen the extremes of this at some point in our lives; there are people who are (by most standards) incredibly beautiful yet consider themselves to be "unattractive" and probably have deep-rooted self esteem issues that they need to work out. See anorexia in women & bigorexia in men. There are also people out there who are (again - by most standards) less-than-spectacular physically, but have the strong self-esteem and confidence to carry themselves with head held up high. Just go to any bar and see this magnified with guys hitting on women WAAAAAY out of their league!

So there you have it, PurpleJedi's answer to the question.

JustErin said:

Yep!!! What happened to girl power?

Whatever, I really don't pay attention to anyone anymore. I do my thing, if you like it awesome if not I could care less. Can't make everyone happy!

PurpleJedi said:

Or that OTHER PEOPLE consider that to be so about your appearance, not necessarily yourself!

Jeffiner said:

Oh please you know you're hot!

Jeffiner said:

Yeah, well that goes with the "social norm". If hairy arms were considered by the great majority to be beautiful in women, then a woman with hairy arms would, by default, consider herself beautiful in that society.

I have a feeling being beautiful is pretty much the same as not being beautiful. Some days are good, some days suck.

CarrieLee said:

I'm so hot I can hardly sleep with myself ... Oh no, we're not in Music and More - oops!