I was recently on a Greyhound bus taking a trip to New York City.
The a/c wasn't working and when the driver tried to run the a/c,
some type of liquid started running out of the vents onto some
passengers clothes who were sitting under them. Then upon arrival
in NYC, the driver announced-"it's my first trip to NYC. Can
someone tell me where the Port Authority is?" This was a super
hot day outside with very high humidity and one of the men on
the bus became very irrate and started arguing with the driver
and people were getting even more upset over that (with good
reason) of course. I thought THAT WAS A TRIP FROM HELL! Little
did I realize after gaining knowledge of this story, that trip
was an inconvenience at best. I don't understand why they don't
check people out more before a bus or train trip as they would
before taking a trip on an airplane, cruise, etc. Beats the hell
outta me! I was reading some of the posts here and I agree with
Wildgoldenhoney in that, we never really know what we'd do in this
type of situation once actually faced with it (I'm sure we too would
be scared) BUT, the fact that NOT ONE PERSON AT ALL tried to do a
single, solitary thing just blows me away! Remember the quote: "Evil
exists when good men do nothing"!? Someone, somehow should have done
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meow85 said:

I'd be willing to debate that statement. But, me being a Christian..I actually care about peoples feelings. So, I won't.


And as for you not seeing what I mean about the offending remarks in this thread against those who believe in God. Read the comments below:









So, as you see, it's a common thing here to speak against God & his followers. But if I were to question your "Theory" that you are born Gay. I would be called a Homophobe. Feel the double standard here? But, I understand it, because this is the world we live in. I'm just pointing out the obvious.
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Bishop31 said:

So, being Christian somehow automatically makes you a compassionate and caring person? Cut the bullshit, dude.
I've seen far too many bigoted, hypocrite, self-righteous assholes that call themselves 'Christians' to know better.

FuNkeNsteiN said:

Uh, that may be true, but dogging Christian people over a few bad experiences is like me dogging all white people because I had several bad racists experiences with certain white people. I know that many white people are NOT racist and very respectful of my race.... even though I constantly see otherwise.

Can't write off an entire group of people... there's good and bad in every individual, and none of us are perfect.

Christians are not perfect... they know they need help, that's why they go to church to repent.... and they keep trying to be better people, some may lose sight of that, but many are compassionate and learn the true meaning of brotherhood.

FuNkeNsteiN said:

LOL- I so agree with you FuNkeNstein! I respect
everyone's opinion because we are all different
beings. No two people will have exactly the same
views I understand this when it comes to some who
call themselves "Christian", there behavior many
times proves otherwise.


I also agree with meow85 Being Gay IS an inborn thing. There is
scientific proof of this. It's NOT a choice but, that's another topic.

"Sign of the Times, Will mess with your mind.
Hurry before it's too late." Prince
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paintedlady said:

"Do unto others..." is more than just a biblical saying, it should be considered a universally human one.

I find it hilarious when people go into tirades against Christians or Catholics or JW's or whomever...supposedly because of the narrow-minded and intolerant views of *whatever*...displaying those same narrow-minded and intolerant views they claim to decry.

PurpleJedi said:

Many basic principles that are taught in the bible are the same things that many that don't believe in God practice or wish that others did. If that makes sense Simply put... people need to start to try to look for the good in your fellow man instead of complaining about the worst... and lets not allow fear to stop us from helping others in crisis.

Love one another... the greatest commandment... the hardest to do.

paintedlady said:

So hard that people choose to ignore it.

paintedlady said:

I agree.
I'm not saying every single Christian is a hypocrite and an asshole, I just had a problem with Bishop implying that being Christian automatically means you are compassionate and 'better' than the rest of us. That's bullshit.

paintedlady said:

As much as I'd love for that to happen, pun intended, you and I both know, it won't... and this is coming from someone who believes in people and love
The thing is, you can love the people close to you, but no one will ever be capable of universal love. What we can do, however, is *respect* our fellow men.
Respect them enough to let them do what they want to do, as long as it is not hurting anyone else. That wouldn't be that much of a stretch, but then again, there will be always be those completely fucked up individuals out there who won't, no matter how hard we try, ever love or respect anybody. This thread is a good example of said type of person.

PurpleJedi said:

I thought this was a thread about a beheading.

Mars23 said:

When does the org ever stay on topic?

FuNkeNsteiN said:

Me saying that "..because I am a Christian, I care about peoples feelings", doesn't imply that I feel that I am "better" than anybody. I was simply saying that my Christian values inside of me leads me to treat everybody with respect & kindness. Now, every Christian doesn't follow these principles. But, that doesn't mean ALL of us don't. It's OK if you don't agree with the Christian faith. That's your right. And it's my right to express my beliefs. Peace.
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TheResistor said:

whew! i don't know what 2 sy to ure reply, with all due respect, I say to u that i didn't just thank (God) 4 watching over me I also I thank God everyday for watching over me and his grace and mercy, yes i do believe in a all knowing watching God ~ and blessing> i can't stop time and make this not happen.

I'm only human God is the one with the mighty power. And it may sound abit misunderstood, but do u not think that (God) was not there with this young man and the people on the bus when this happen ? I'm not saying i'm just happy my life is/was protected. U read in 2 what i said ( with) a anger toward God from what i gather. I could be wrong though, if I am please do 4give me.

I pray 4 all, if u had really taking the time to read.

U would have read, more clearly and with clearity. ( I prayed) for the vitim's family and all those who were envoled with this hearting breaking attack. Also I had release a spiritual dove. in ~motion honoring this life. That has left, this earth..... maybe this is, a (issue) maybe with God U. And not me and people that that God for his blessing in living life.

I'm not (God) And i can't say why these things happen. However I can't say because horrible thing happen, that there is no God, or that he doesn't care and is a big great mean spirit in the sky~ all i can say is I choose. To believe there is more to life. And bad things sometimes happen that no one can explain, or even understand. However we must in those words not take, life
for granted ~ and be thankful everyday. Cause life doesn't promise any1 a for sure ticket of living the whole day out ~ we who live day by carrying on Are blessed to do, so.

And I, try and live my days here on earth with a renewed sence of, positive loving thinking every moment of it~ full of God's light and persence

I hope that U can read what i wrote in a different light ~ And yes i do thank God for watching over me ~ it is a blesssing ! everyday because truly speaking U or me didn't have to wake up today but we did and we are here

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redpumps said:

Matthew 5:10-12

Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account.
Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so men persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Keep fighting the good fight, Sister.

Bishop31 said:

If either of you got carved up and eaten on a bus, exactly what are you thankful to God for and where was he in your moment of need?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

They are dead - they can't be thankful at that point!

But if it happened to a family member. I'm always curious how people who are religious deal with God taking their loved one away and how they explain (to themselves) God not taking care of them in their time of need.

JustErin said:

Having had a cousin murdered, it's extremely hard to find "god" in the situation. That hasn't stopped me from finding a purpose from it, but finding purpose in the actual murder. Nope, have a really hard time doing that.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

My post was in reference to her being attacked for praying for the victim & his family. Not being thankful for being "carved up & eaten". But, to answer your question. If that happened to me, my spirit would be in a better place, so I wouldn't be concerned for my human body anymore. My concern is where my spirit dwells after death..not the human body.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

My Father was stabbed & left for dead in an alley when I was 2 years old. So I too know what it's like to have a family member murdered. But, because of my beliefs I believe I will see him again. Do u feel that's a bad thing to believe?

Bishop31 said:

Nope. I'm actually in the process of extending an invitation to my dead grandma and great aunt to be on the lookout for when my cousin comes up upon my garden because I want her there when I get there. So I get where you're coming from

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

cool.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Thanks 4 the understanding Bishop1
And i'm even cool with those, whom have and opinion against, what I wrote thats, cool too.....
i'm not here 2 debate God, and his power ~ or what he does and doesn't allow.
However it this all makes me, think and i will list my thoughts on some the replies expressed.

Since it's been said.... I shouldn't be thanksful 2 God for everyday (life). living day 2 day. Then my question is? what should I " be hateful 2 God " ?

Should I stop believing in the good, cause of the bad ?

Should a sit back and not, understood this is a priviage, ... to, be on this earth still ?

Do I just stop having faith? Cause, something evil exsit in the world,

That I have no control, over happen on this earth ?

I mean really ask ure selves this. Do we, stop living. because their are people that don't vaule life ? Or because God some how allow a life 2 leave this earth ?



So now does it make (God) a bad God, cause bad things happen? Evil does exsit in this world.

Does it make God none , existing does it make him void?

We want to judge God ? is that it i'm not here 4 that.

Hey can any1 tell me why flowers are on the earth? Or who made, the 1st one \
or why they have to crumb away? or who spun that huge milky way in space, better yet who put those rings around saturn and why ?

Or why life even came about, I don't know ~

We all want asnwers but, just because we don't have them always ~ doesn't make people that want to have faith in, a More bright side of veiwing life, wrong or heartless.

It makes us desire 2 live life, and take and make it work at it's fullest ~ I can't change today, nether do I know, tommorrow yet, I/we at this moment, here

I/we have today ~ and I rejoice and be glad in it, And in all things that is given and provide I give much thanks, cause it didn't have to be so.

And as far as being carved up and eaten, no I haven't been and thankful none of us have for that matter.
and no1 is saying be thankful 4 a crime as unheartful as, this.

I think the point is people/me, are really trying to say ~ life is something to know .....U are not promise. So, live it, and know that it/life " is a blessing day by day "


We as humans can thank a fellow man, A (hero) or our mothers father, boss, co-workers at work strangers, for deeds done. But just don't thank God cause ?reason


somethings 2 think about :dove

Jesus, wtf happened to this thread?

Stymie said:

No kidding.

Stymie said:

PurpleJedi said:

Where the hell do you live that a killer gets community service?

Nope. Ineffective. Killing to punish killing as justice? Bullshit. The state's hands are left just as bloody.

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