The passengers did everything right.

I understand your emotion and passion about this situation and applaud your bravado, but I think you're being rather harsh and unfair in calling the other passengers "cowards" because of their reaction/s. You must realize that being an armchair speculator after the fact vs. actually being there while such carnage is happening and seeing the spurting gore and unimaginable violence firsthand, are two wildly incomparable scenarios. It's not really possible to predict how you would have reacted were you there; you are writing your indignant opinion from the safety and comfort of your home or office, able to utilize logic and better judgement than were the passengers who suddenly, out of the clear blue, were awakened to or became aware of the horrible murder that happened so suddenly on that bus.

Many people were asleep, were listening to a movie or to music on headphones, or were otherwise occupied when, with no forewarning whatsoever, they heard a terrible scream and turned around to see that young man being violently butchered. Seeing such an unexpected atrocity - especially if just jarred awake from sleep - would understandably throw the human mind into a disconnect, with the first instinct being to flee.

Perhaps some of the passengers will wonder if there was something they might've done to help or to have saved that young victim's life, and will feel guilt -- but the reality is that this incident occured so quickly and in such close quarters and was of such a bizarre, extreme nature that there really was little that could have been done to help that young man at the point where people realized with any clarity what was going on.

I agree.

With all due respect... I disagree, but you can never tell/expect another person to put their lives in danger for a stranger, so in that sense they get over on allowing someone to be slain in front of them.

Me personally, I would have done something, anything.... goes to show that if you are in a battle for your life... you are on your own.

I think in the USA people are chicken shit when it comes to protecting / helping each other. They don't want to interfere.

Maybe so...but, uhm....this story takes place in Canada.

Really?? And u believe in God. I see.

Yes. When He goes bowling and makes it thunder I hide under my bed.

and the Canadian individuals kept the living dead freak trapped in the disabled bus until the cops arrived.

I reject every attempt of any individuals to claim greater humanity for their respective countries. Its crap, people are people wherever you go!

I think in the USA people are chicken shit when it comes to protecting / helping each other. They don't want to interfere.

With all due respect... I disagree, but you can never tell/expect another person to put their lives in danger for a stranger, so in that sense they get over on allowing someone to be slain in front of them.

Me personally, I would have done something, anything.... goes to show that if you are in a battle for your life... you are on your own.

I'm curious, and I ask the following sincerely, not snarkily: what do you think you could have done, had you been on that bus and in the exact circumstances as those other passengers? If you'd been startled awake, or been watching the film or listening to music and then heard the screams and turned around in your seat to that young man in the process of being savagely stabbed by a deranged man weilding a large knife...what do you imagine you could have/would have done to help at that point?

I'm curious, and I ask the following sincerely, not snarkily: what do you think you could have done, had you been on that bus and in the exact circumstances as those other passengers? If you'd been startled awake, or been watching the film or listening to music and then heard the screams and turned around in your seat to that young man in the process of being savagely stabbed by a deranged man weilding a large knife...what do you imagine you could have/would have done to help at that point?

knock him down... get the knife away. I am one of those people that isn't too trusting so I always have some shit on me... I grew up in a tough neighborhood and watched (as a kid, I was about 13) as a young guy (Willie) was cut open and gutted on a street. He died but I watched other women take his the killer's ass down, they fought back, and the machete was taken from him. I had a gun to my head also before...I had no help, I had to help myself, I am still here, but I could not live with myself if anyone died with NO help.

Some just don't want to be involved, I think it is a responsibility to look out for your fellow man. You either watch or you help. This was an extreme case, but I've seen men fight off other men with guns in protection of strangers (Charlie's Hick's dad ) He saved a teen's life he didn't know... that is called heroism and some people will either help or not.

I think you have to be desensitized from violence I guess, to not be afraid to help.

I'm curious, and I ask the following sincerely, not snarkily: what do you think you could have done, had you been on that bus and in the exact circumstances as those other passengers? If you'd been startled awake, or been watching the film or listening to music and then heard the screams and turned around in your seat to that young man in the process of being savagely stabbed by a deranged man weilding a large knife...what do you imagine you could have/would have done to help at that point?

this is one sick story. i was highly disturbed when I read it. it's crazy to think somebody would do that to another stranger for no reason at all. what i'm most upset about is, why are they just charging the psycho with second degree murder??? isn't this vicious crime considered first degree???!!! What is going on here?

From my understanding, the 2nd-degree murder charge is being thought to have been used because proving in a court of law the intent and premeditation of this random crime could prove a difficult task for the prosecution, as these two men were absolute strangers to one another with no history whatsoever; theoretically, there may be random factors which could have come into play that could have suddenly have set off something in Li's brain, causing him to go into the deranged state he clearly was in when he committed this horrific murder.

It's also my understanding that a second-degree murder charge under Canadian law has a range of parole stipulations and so that, ultimately, the final sentence for Li may not be much different than were he charged with 1st degree murder.

Maybe so...but, uhm....this story takes place in Canada.

From my understanding, the 2nd-degree murder charge is being thought to have been used because proving in a court of law the intent and premeditation of this random crime could prove a difficult task for the prosecution, as these two men were absolute strangers to one another with no history whatsoever; theoretically, there may be random factors which could have come into play that could have suddenly have set off something in Li's brain, causing him to go into the deranged state he clearly was in when he committed this horrific murder.

It's also my understanding that a second-degree murder charge under Canadian law has a range of parole stipulations and so that, ultimately, the final sentence for Li may not be much different than were he charged with 1st degree murder.

Mightn't it be the implication that God was looking out for her on her Greyhoudn trip, but obviously not this poor guy?