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Reply #150 posted 07/22/08 8:56pm

violetblues

Anxiety said:


for me, i'm not so bothered about comic book stories pushing the envelope or raising the stakes. i'm all for sophisticated and edgy writing and the evolution of characters. it's when comic creators and filmmakers get this idea that they have to appeal to an "adult" sensibility by draining all the color and joy from the stories and characters so they can be more gritty and grim.


Quick translation"

"adult" sensibility = Intelligent

"color and joy" = Gay or “camp” or fab-u-lous!

You like em dumb & gay(nothing wrong with it) like the old Batman TV show right?

Cool! gottcha thumbs up!
[Edited 7/22/08 20:58pm]
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Reply #151 posted 07/22/08 8:59pm

Anxiety

violetblues said:

Anxiety said:


for me, i'm not so bothered about comic book stories pushing the envelope or raising the stakes. i'm all for sophisticated and edgy writing and the evolution of characters. it's when comic creators and filmmakers get this idea that they have to appeal to an "adult" sensibility by draining all the color and joy from the stories and characters so they can be more gritty and grim.


Quick translation"

"adult" sensibility = Intelligent

"color and joy" = Gay or “camp” or fab-u-lous!

You like em dumb & gay(nothing wrong with it) like the old Batman TV show right?

Cool! gottcha:thumbsup:



oh my GOD.

look, you're right about everything in the history of the universe and really, just for the sake of argument, i'm randomly tapping at my keyboard with my feet. okay? just read that sentence over and over whenever you see me post and believe that in your reality, it is the truth. just LEAVE ME ALONE AND LET ME ENJOY MY DAMN ORG. lol nuts dead
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Reply #152 posted 07/22/08 9:07pm

violetblues

Anxiety said:

violetblues said:



Quick translation"

"adult" sensibility = Intelligent

"color and joy" = Gay or “camp” or fab-u-lous!

You like em dumb & gay(nothing wrong with it) like the old Batman TV show right?

Cool! gottcha:thumbsup:





oh my GOD.

look, you're right about everything in the history of the universe and really, just for the sake of argument, i'm randomly tapping at my keyboard with my feet. okay? just read that sentence over and over whenever you see me post and believe that in your reality, it is the truth. just LEAVE ME ALONE AND LET ME ENJOY MY DAMN ORG. lol nuts dead


falloff
enjoy your org already, lol

YOU Respond to all my posts nutboy, I was just recipricating

go on about your daily nerd doings,
good god!
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Reply #153 posted 07/22/08 9:09pm

Anxiety

violetblues said:

Anxiety said:






oh my GOD.

look, you're right about everything in the history of the universe and really, just for the sake of argument, i'm randomly tapping at my keyboard with my feet. okay? just read that sentence over and over whenever you see me post and believe that in your reality, it is the truth. just LEAVE ME ALONE AND LET ME ENJOY MY DAMN ORG. lol nuts dead


falloff
enjoy your org already, lol

YOU Respond to all my posts nutboy, I was just recipricating

go on about your daily nerd doings,
good god!


if i didn't know any better, i'd be asking you if they finally installed WiFi service under bridges. neutral
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Reply #154 posted 07/22/08 9:21pm

violetblues

Anxiety said:

violetblues said:



falloff
enjoy your org already, lol

YOU Respond to all my posts nutboy, I was just recipricating

go on about your daily nerd doings,
good god!


if i didn't know any better, i'd be asking you if they finally installed WiFi service under bridges. neutral


lol, yeah you would know wouldnt you nod
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Reply #155 posted 07/23/08 9:38am

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Reply #156 posted 07/23/08 11:39am

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I really enjoyed the film. Heath Ledger was AMAZING. He lived up to all of the hype, if thats even possible. Aesthetically, it was brilliant. Chicago is the definitive Gotham City.


Gotham City
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Reply #157 posted 07/23/08 6:45pm

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Tom said:

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Holy crap! My brother and I debated that for like a half hour on the phone
If it was make-up, then I'm AMAZED!
but if it was CG, it was the best I've ever seen...so realistic eek


His face was creeping me out, especially his eye. If that wasn't CGI, it had to be terribly uncomfortable to be wearing whatever they put on him, lol.

The Dark Knight Two-Face makes Tommy Lee Jone's version look like a drug store halloween mask...

All I could think about when I saw his face was how damn uncomfortable that eye must be. How the hell did he keep it lubricated?!?! He had no eyelid!

falloff for some reason, I read that as "drunk store"
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Reply #158 posted 07/25/08 6:23pm

Imago

I liked it but I enjoyed the first one a little bit more. Maybe it's because the first one offered something fresh and new in the look and feel of Batman. This one relies on the strength of the joker--the story doesn't feel like it's builds very well..it felt more like watching scenes on a story board play out.

And the transition from Harvey the crusador to 2-Face the vengeful crazydude seemed a bit rushed. Whoever that actor is though, to me, is absolutely hawt, so I didn't mind the scenes with him in it. Though they could have done a few shirtless scenes and shit--the missed an opportunity on that one.
And what's up with Christian Bale taking his shirt off only once, to reveal himself covered in scratches, burn marks, and bruises? Couldn't they do a few scenes of him shirtless? Pointless waste of a good actor really. Plus how come someone so rich like Bruce Wayne has a haircut you could easily get at Supercuts? Bitch, please.

And the realistic look-and-feel of the movie was great, but at times, the super hero 'feel' to the movie is lost and batman looks like he's playing "dressup" in your local downtown parking garage. The first scene where the dog bites him in the parking lot felt... I don't know---common and a bit dull. I know it's meant to feel real and gritty , but there were scenes where I swear to gawd, I tought it was the set of Hill Street Blues.

Oh, and the movie was a bit long. I thought for a minute Aragon was going to take the thrown and usher in the new age of man in middle earth a few times there.


Overall though, I really liked the movie. For some reason I preferred the first. I'll have to watch both again and figure out why. I *DO* love Heath's version of the joker though--brilliant.
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Reply #159 posted 07/25/08 6:47pm

ThreadBare

Imago said:

I liked it but I enjoyed the first one a little bit more. Maybe it's because the first one offered something fresh and new in the look and feel of Batman. This one relies on the strength of the joker--the story doesn't feel like it's builds very well..it felt more like watching scenes on a story board play out.

And the transition from Harvey the crusador to 2-Face the vengeful crazydude seemed a bit rushed. Whoever that actor is though, to me, is absolutely hawt, so I didn't mind the scenes with him in it. Though they could have done a few shirtless scenes and shit--the missed an opportunity on that one.
And what's up with Christian Bale taking his shirt off only once, to reveal himself covered in scratches, burn marks, and bruises? Couldn't they do a few scenes of him shirtless? Pointless waste of a good actor really. Plus how come someone so rich like Bruce Wayne has a haircut you could easily get at Supercuts? Bitch, please.

And the realistic look-and-feel of the movie was great, but at times, the super hero 'feel' to the movie is lost and batman looks like he's playing "dressup" in your local downtown parking garage. The first scene where the dog bites him in the parking lot felt... I don't know---common and a bit dull. I know it's meant to feel real and gritty , but there were scenes where I swear to gawd, I tought it was the set of Hill Street Blues.

Oh, and the movie was a bit long. I thought for a minute Aragon was going to take the thrown and usher in the new age of man in middle earth a few times there.


Overall though, I really liked the movie. For some reason I preferred the first. I'll have to watch both again and figure out why. I *DO* love Heath's version of the joker though--brilliant.


I was a bit underwhelmed by the movie. I just finished watching "Batman Begins," to try to get a sense of what's missing. The first one was a bit more light-hearted. This is definitely darker and more operatic, but I think it took itself a little too seriously. I'm going to try to see it in IMAX tomorrow.
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Reply #160 posted 07/25/08 7:38pm

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violetblues said:

Anxiety said:


for me, i'm not so bothered about comic book stories pushing the envelope or raising the stakes. i'm all for sophisticated and edgy writing and the evolution of characters. it's when comic creators and filmmakers get this idea that they have to appeal to an "adult" sensibility by draining all the color and joy from the stories and characters so they can be more gritty and grim.


Quick translation"

"adult" sensibility = Intelligent

"color and joy" = Gay or “camp” or fab-u-lous!

You like em dumb & gay(nothing wrong with it) like the old Batman TV show right?

Cool! gottcha thumbs up!
[Edited 7/22/08 20:58pm]



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Reply #161 posted 07/25/08 7:39pm

Imago

ThreadBare said:

Imago said:

I liked it but I enjoyed the first one a little bit more. Maybe it's because the first one offered something fresh and new in the look and feel of Batman. This one relies on the strength of the joker--the story doesn't feel like it's builds very well..it felt more like watching scenes on a story board play out.

And the transition from Harvey the crusador to 2-Face the vengeful crazydude seemed a bit rushed. Whoever that actor is though, to me, is absolutely hawt, so I didn't mind the scenes with him in it. Though they could have done a few shirtless scenes and shit--the missed an opportunity on that one.
And what's up with Christian Bale taking his shirt off only once, to reveal himself covered in scratches, burn marks, and bruises? Couldn't they do a few scenes of him shirtless? Pointless waste of a good actor really. Plus how come someone so rich like Bruce Wayne has a haircut you could easily get at Supercuts? Bitch, please.

And the realistic look-and-feel of the movie was great, but at times, the super hero 'feel' to the movie is lost and batman looks like he's playing "dressup" in your local downtown parking garage. The first scene where the dog bites him in the parking lot felt... I don't know---common and a bit dull. I know it's meant to feel real and gritty , but there were scenes where I swear to gawd, I tought it was the set of Hill Street Blues.

Oh, and the movie was a bit long. I thought for a minute Aragon was going to take the thrown and usher in the new age of man in middle earth a few times there.


Overall though, I really liked the movie. For some reason I preferred the first. I'll have to watch both again and figure out why. I *DO* love Heath's version of the joker though--brilliant.


I was a bit underwhelmed by the movie. I just finished watching "Batman Begins," to try to get a sense of what's missing. The first one was a bit more light-hearted. This is definitely darker and more operatic, but I think it took itself a little too seriously. I'm going to try to see it in IMAX tomorrow.

Bale's shirt was constantly off in the first movie.

This one had it off for all of 5 seconds to reveal scars, bruises, and burns.
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Reply #162 posted 07/26/08 5:43am

ThreadBare

Imago said:

ThreadBare said:



I was a bit underwhelmed by the movie. I just finished watching "Batman Begins," to try to get a sense of what's missing. The first one was a bit more light-hearted. This is definitely darker and more operatic, but I think it took itself a little too seriously. I'm going to try to see it in IMAX tomorrow.

Bale's shirt was constantly off in the first movie.

This one had it off for all of 5 seconds to reveal scars, bruises, and burns.

Didn't notice. lol Maggie G's eyes, on the other hand, were captivating, as usual.
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Reply #163 posted 07/28/08 3:16pm

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Imago said:

I liked it but I enjoyed the first one a little bit more. Maybe it's because the first one offered something fresh and new in the look and feel of Batman. This one relies on the strength of the joker--the story doesn't feel like it's builds very well..it felt more like watching scenes on a story board play out.


Exactly 100% correct! nod

And the transition from Harvey the crusador to 2-Face the vengeful crazydude seemed a bit rushed. Whoever that actor is though, to me, is absolutely hawt, so I didn't mind the scenes with him in it. Though they could have done a few shirtless scenes and shit--the missed an opportunity on that one.


YES..,the Harvey-Two Face transition felt like it was completely glossed over; like they just said "Let's get this over with so we have our other villain ASAP!" rolleyes

As for the hawtness of Aaron Eckhart, falloff !!! I am into chicks myself but he is a good-looking guy.

And what's up with Christian Bale taking his shirt off only once, to reveal himself covered in scratches, burn marks, and bruises? Couldn't they do a few scenes of him shirtless? Pointless waste of a good actor really. Plus how come someone so rich like Bruce Wayne has a haircut you could easily get at Supercuts? Bitch, please.


spit Whatever floats your boat! lol Seriously though, Christian Bale is quickly becoming one of my all-time favorite actors...dude is talented!

And the realistic look-and-feel of the movie was great, but at times, the super hero 'feel' to the movie is lost and batman looks like he's playing "dressup" in your local downtown parking garage. The first scene where the dog bites him in the parking lot felt... I don't know---common and a bit dull. I know it's meant to feel real and gritty , but there were scenes where I swear to gawd, I tought it was the set of Hill Street Blues.


DEAD ON IT! highfive That does it: Imago, you are on my Buddy List! clapping

Oh, and the movie was a bit long. I thought for a minute Aragon was going to take the thrown and usher in the new age of man in middle earth a few times there.


fallofffalloff

Overall though, I really liked the movie. For some reason I preferred the first. I'll have to watch both again and figure out why. I *DO* love Heath's version of the joker though--brilliant.


thumbs up! Heath was phenomenal and I'm so frustrated and sad that he's gone. Academy Award for Best Actor, anyone?
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Reply #164 posted 07/28/08 5:16pm

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Finally saw it on IMAX yesterday.

shrug No change.

It's OK. Just.
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Reply #165 posted 07/28/08 9:37pm

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bluefish said:


thumbs up! Heath was phenomenal and I'm so frustrated and sad that he's gone. Academy Award for Best Actor, anyone?


He should get a nomination at the very least - really sensational perfoemance. nod
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Reply #166 posted 07/28/08 9:56pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

bluefish said:


thumbs up! Heath was phenomenal and I'm so frustrated and sad that he's gone. Academy Award for Best Actor, anyone?


He should get a nomination at the very least - really sensational perfoemance. nod

It's so frustrating to finally have someone do The Joker properly, then have them leave, never again to repeat the performance. sigh
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Reply #167 posted 07/28/08 11:21pm

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According to the voters over at IMDB.com, 'The Dark Knight' is the best movie ever made.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/

9.4/10 stars
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Reply #168 posted 07/29/08 3:34pm

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

According to the voters over at IMDB.com, 'The Dark Knight' is the best movie ever made.

falloff



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Reply #169 posted 07/29/08 3:55pm

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usually im bored from the start with any of these mainstream movies. But somehow I didnt feel like nodding off once through 2 and a half hours, which is an amazing feat for my short attention span.
I was totally less than thrilled with Maggie Gylenhaal, how on earth is such a dowdy looking girl Jakes's sister? Couldnt they have found someone else more up to par in the looks department? fart
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Reply #170 posted 07/29/08 11:47pm

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meow85 said:

DiminutiveRocker said:



He should get a nomination at the very least - really sensational perfoemance. nod

It's so frustrating to finally have someone do The Joker properly, then have them leave, never again to repeat the performance. sigh


nod....sad
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Reply #171 posted 07/31/08 5:09pm

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horatio said:

usually im bored from the start with any of these mainstream movies. But somehow I didnt feel like nodding off once through 2 and a half hours, which is an amazing feat for my short attention span.
I was totally less than thrilled with Maggie Gylenhaal, how on earth is such a dowdy looking girl Jakes's sister? Couldnt they have found someone else more up to par in the looks department? fart

lol She's cute.
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Reply #172 posted 08/01/08 11:33am

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ThreadBare said:

horatio said:

usually im bored from the start with any of these mainstream movies. But somehow I didnt feel like nodding off once through 2 and a half hours, which is an amazing feat for my short attention span.
I was totally less than thrilled with Maggie Gylenhaal, how on earth is such a dowdy looking girl Jakes's sister? Couldnt they have found someone else more up to par in the looks department? fart

lol She's cute.


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Reply #173 posted 08/01/08 11:36am

Imago

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Imago said:

I liked it but I enjoyed the first one a little bit more. Maybe it's because the first one offered something fresh and new in the look and feel of Batman. This one relies on the strength of the joker--the story doesn't feel like it's builds very well..it felt more like watching scenes on a story board play out.


Exactly 100% correct! nod



fallofffalloff

Overall though, I really liked the movie. For some reason I preferred the first. I'll have to watch both again and figure out why. I *DO* love Heath's version of the joker though--brilliant.





thumbs up! Heath was phenomenal and I'm so frustrated and sad that he's gone. Academy Award for Best Actor, anyone?




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Reply #174 posted 08/01/08 12:01pm

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T'is a very good film, imho. cool
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Reply #175 posted 08/01/08 1:46pm

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I loved it!

I find it interesting though, arguing about whether realism has a place in a comic book movie. Comic book writers have been re-inventing these characters (and their plots) to make them either more real or relatable - or up the ante on the emotive response they evoke, for as long as these characters have been around.

I liked the themes & sub plots (defense contracts? cell-phone spying?) that underline the contemporary complications in defining a morality in good fighting evil. It's a film that raises questions, even if it doesn't answer them.

It is not a whimsical film, but the humor is there if you like the sadistic. It flows and advances nicely beyond Batman Begins; Ledger really delivered a Joker that fits in the 'new' Batman universe: a hysterical, terrifying, and terrorizing entity.
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Reply #176 posted 08/04/08 7:40am

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I saw it last night. I thought the Joker as played by the late Heath Ledger was GREAT.
I was a bit skeptical about all the rave reviews before going to the movie theather, thinking that the reviews were more positive because of this being his last movie, but this Joker IMO is more exciting than even Jack's Joker. I'm gonna see the '89 Batman soon to compare though, I haven't seen that one in a while.
Overall it was a very good movie.
Problems?
First off I thought Batman's voice was a bit "off" but that's a minor annoyance compared to the fact that the speakers for almost ALL the dialogue blew out in the middle of the movie so all the dialogue we heard was when someone was in the background and we heard just the bass frequencies of the main dialogue.
If it werent' for the subtitles the second half would have been COMPLETELY ruined. Luckily, after the screening all the people in the theatre were offered to go to the film again for free AND another film of choice for free as well. So I guess I'll be seeing the film again soon.
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Reply #177 posted 08/04/08 10:02am

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bluefish said:

Mars23 said:




You were supposed to see The Dark Knight, not Mamma Mia.


Did you even read my review? It was a good movie, just not a good Batman movie; it was a little TOO grounded in realism for my tastes.

The whole mob storyline with Marconi and Lau was completely uninteresting and made me doze off more than a few times. The explosions just got repetitive and boring: Explosions for explosions' sake. And the overly-obvious philisophical dialogue had me rolleyes constantly. I also agree with those who say that Bale's peformance as Batman regressed from Begins, although he was a better Bruce Wayne in this one.

My one major beef with TDK is it just didn't feel like a superhero movie AT ALL. I would have appreciated it much more if the characters weren't part of a comic book universe, because in this film they took themselves much too seriously. It's akin to having the Scooby Doo characters appear in a period romance; it just doesn't click 'cause its straying too far from the genre.

Burton's Batman did it right: There was campiness and flair, some over-the-top cartoony elements, but it was perfectly balanced with the gritty, dark reality of a slum. Not too realistic, yet not too "fantasyland" either. A perfect middleground.

Next thing you know, they'll have the Transformers joining Congress or something. THESE TYPES OF CHARACTERS DO NOT BELONG IN THE REAL WORLD! [/rant]




Hey Chris, I read your posts AND your review and couldn´t disagree more.
That realism is the MAIN reason why I liked TDK so much. I guess the thing is that you , as you have expressed in your blog, tend to favor Tim Burton´s version of Batman over this one, and that´s fine but, and I´m sure real Batman fans will agree with me on this, any true , oldschool fan of the Batman of the mid 1970s to early 80s will tell you that The Dark Knight and Batman Begins were the best interpretations of Neal Adam´s version of Batman.
Jack Nicholson´s Joker was kinda ok, it was like Nicholson playing Nicholson one more time, and Keaton as Bruce Wayne or Batman was simply not convincing enough, he´s neither got the looks nor the darkness to pull it off but if one wants that camp aspect, than of course Burton´s Batman is the real deal, for those interested in that kind of genre.

Chris Nolan did a great job in giving these two movies that special Neal Adams/Frank Miller feel, he just updated it a bit and adapted it to the 21st century.
So, all in all, you are quite on point when you say that TDK lacks that campy feel and takes itself too seriously but then again, fans like me have been waiting for ages to see this kind of Batman interpretation. Believe me , it is VERY close to legendary Batman stories like "The Lazarus Pit" or " A Death In The Family"...not necessarily the storyline but the overall atmosphere of the movies.
I really liked this movie and will definitely watch it again tomorrow and can´t wait for a third installment.
Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox was incredible, and Michael Caine as Alfred was superb,though he doesn´t really look like Alfred ( and the "real" Alfred would say "Master Bruce"instead of "Master Wayne" and he would serve tea, not coffee but....all in all....this is one of the best superhero movies ever made.

And the Wayne penthouse...wow....couldn´t get any closer to the "Neal Adams Batman" than this...just wow !

If only Chris Nolan could bring back Ras Al Ghul and include his daughter Talia Al Ghul ( Bruce Wayne´s girlfriend ) in the next one.
That would be a dream come true. And they should emphasize more on the athleticism of Bruce Wayne, like in the first one, and less on the almost robot-like Batman suit which looked a bit too heavy.

PS: I do agree with you about the explosions for explosion´s sake though.
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Reply #178 posted 08/04/08 11:25am

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Although of course bringing back Ras Al Ghul would go totally against the realism of the Nolan movies.
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Reply #179 posted 08/04/08 11:45pm

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Although of course bringing back Ras Al Ghul would go totally against the realism of the Nolan movies.



Hoow so ? Ras didn´t die in Batman Begins, and he was one of the main villains in the Batman interpretations of Dennis O´Neill and Neal Adams. Bringing him back in the third movie and introducing his daughter Talia ( Bruce Wayne´s girlfriend ) would be cool.The could loosely base the scenario on "The Lazarus Pit" but without Robin.
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