ZombieKitten said:

18!

Her mom doesn't give a shit though. And my dad....DAMMIT, you're totally missing the point!

Volitan said:

Listen I was 18 once
I DIDN'T live at home any more, I had my own apartment. It all started with a kiss! I'd been crushing on him for 2 whole years, and didn't know what to do about it. We had a big talk about just being friends, and then he kissed me, and after that went hell for leather

ZombieKitten said:

Well I don't have that luxury. Back on topic though.

Volitan said:

I was sympathising with you for not having privacy, not asking about whether your folks approved btw.

I think a note is creepy if she doesn't feel the same way about you. This guy who I was friends with bought me jewellery and wrote me a note along the lines of that email idea you had. I was mortified and avoided him from that day on, I had no idea how to let him down gently.

ZombieKitten said:

I know, I just messing...

But I agree, the long note idea is bad. But even the short one (How would you feel....) is a bad idea? What should I say then? Everything I come up with would just be awkward if she turns me down.

Volitan said:

it takes a fair bit of empathy and tact to let someone know they aren't interested in that way, I'd be confident doing it now, but 20 years ago, god help me. She is probably way more mature than I ever was though.

So you absolutely have NO idea if she LIKE likes you? haven't you done all those how to tell if your friend is crushing on you quizzes?

how bout...next time you're hanging out with her you ask her if she'd like to go to dinner with you, cause you'd like to spend sometime with just you and her.

Shorty said:

see now that is kind of to the point and clear it's romantic

Shorty said:

Yeah, been there done that. We're already pretty close so we've eaten alone together (lol) a few times. It wasn't like a date or anything. I feel like I'm already past the getting to know her stage.

Even if I did that, where would I go from there. It'd be to weird asking her on another 'date' or for a 'kiss at the door' type thing.

I just get a laugh, and a WTF? Then she'd know something was up. I tihnk I'm just gonna start hanging out with her more frequently, and one day, when we're alone, I'll just ask her if me and her could ever be more than friends. But then that gets back to the awkward tihng.
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Volitan said:

It wouldn't be weird to ask her on another date if you tell her it's cause you really LOVE spending time with her. you say she's a 7? that's pretty good! I mean 5 being average...a 7 is in the top ranks. If you sit around waiting for a 10 you'll be a lonley guy...but then again you're only 18 (?) gulp! no rush!

I think you should tell her what you originally told us in this thread
"I LOVe hanging out with her and I trust her more than any other girl I know. I can ask her for advice or tell her anytihng in the world and she won't judge me or make fun of me." and "I feel like I can be the one to hold her and tell her everything will be okay"
I mean, these are REALLY super things to say about a girl!
who knows...maybe she's just dying for you to kiss her....
good luck!

I think you're probably getting way too ahead of yourself with all these plans to write letters and what-not. It sounds like you're conflicted and need to just let things progress naturally until you've figured out exactly what it is you want out of this or get a clearer idea of what she might want and whether there's common ground before you make a bigger deal out of it than is necessary at the moment.

JustErin said:

God I love your style...

RenHoek said:

Ok, LAST time I'll bump this I'm sorry.

I suppose now I'll just hang out with her more often, and let things progress naturally and tell her when I'm more sure that I won't get a negative response. Me and her were tight a couple years ago, but I move and I just started hanging out with her again a month or 2 ago. I feel like if I spring it on her now, she'll think I started hanging out with her just to get in her pants or something.

So I'll just continue flirting with her (like I do with all my female friends) until I feel the time is right and I'll tell her how I feel. It just kinda feels too soon now. But when I do decide it's a good time to say something, you can expect another thread of me asking what to say

Also, I have No idea what I was saying when I said she wasn't that good looking. She totally is. I just dug up some old pics. Someone must've slipped me some wacky pills or sumthing
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Why were you so concerned with her not being good looking enough in the first place anyway? I mean, you like her so what's the deal? Wouldn't you really liking her indicate that she was someone you should be with?

Is it because you were afraid of what others would think of you or something? Is it because you feel you need a gf that will impress others?

I've always wondered about this kinda thing. Maybe I'll start a thread about it?

Amaxx said:

oh ok well if they are friend that is whare it starts off as friends and then lover ad then man and wife love cause jesus christ was a friend ahll ways frist and then he was with one woman love peace and love

JustErin said:

Well, the original question was basically, can a relationship flourish with little physical attraction. This is no longer an issue though. I just have to figure out what/when to say....

truleyloved said:

mdiver said:

Now that's what I call re-writing the scriptures.

HamsterHuey said:

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