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Reply #60 posted 11/06/02 3:26pm

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Also, ANY petroleum product (save the planet and STOP fighting over in the middle east) can be made from hemp as well as paper (save the trees) and clothes. I believe that marijuana will never be legalized because of it's cousin hemp which they would HAVE to legalize if they legalized pot and then all the big oil moguls would be SOL.
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Reply #61 posted 11/06/02 3:27pm

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teller said:

No one has ever died, to my knownledge, from a pot overdose. By contrast, alcohol, as Ice pointed out, makes certain people extremely violent. This is just stupid.

The answer, I think, is to wait for a generation of ignorant old people to die--a large voting block who haven't tried the stuff and can't tell it apart from the harder drugs.

No politician wants to touch the subject--too SCARY! EEEAAAH!!!



Strange, but true... marijuana can increase the possibility of dying of alcohol poisioning though...

THC selectively inhibits an area of the brain called the area postrema. The area postrema is responsible for vomiting and the inhibition of this area by THC can cause users who are drinking heavily not to throw up and thus drink even more.


So how come every time you go out drinking and come home & pull a couple of rips off the bong, you puke? Or is that just me?

Pisser this didn't pass. Wanna revitalize the economy? Wanna free up jail space and courtroom time in order to address more serious concerns? Wanna' reserve PRISON for those individuals proven to be a threat to society?

Or, do we want to let a few more rapists and armed robbers out of prison to lock up a few Phish fans perpetuating a 20 year long scam on the American public called "war on drugs"? BTW, are we winning that war or not? I lost track.

Way to go, America.

I'll be really curious to sit back and see what the Republicans can do over the next few years now that run out of opposition to blame for thier failures. Everything and everyone I voted for lost.

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Reply #62 posted 11/06/02 3:31pm

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Ya CAN"T drink all night and THEN toke, silly!

You have to toke alittle first or WHILE you drink.
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Reply #63 posted 11/06/02 3:56pm

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herbthe4 said:

Or, do we want to let a few more rapists and armed robbers out of prison to lock up a few Phish fans perpetuating a 20 year long scam on the American public called "war on drugs"? BTW, are we winning that war or not? I lost track.

Way to go, America.
Agreed...the "war on drugs" is a complete failure and a scary encroachment upon our rights. The DEA and the IRS are both very scary.
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Reply #64 posted 11/06/02 4:04pm

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I have mixed feelings on this. If marijuana is legalized it's going to be easier for children to get. Yeah they can put restrictions on it but it's like cigarettes, they can always get someone to buy them. I know if they really want it they can get it anyway, but if it's legalized then they can use that argument of why they were trying to get it.

Maybe this is on a more personal level for me because I began smoking pot in high school. I was in all honors classes until I was introduced to pot. I think things would have been different for me had I not started smoking it.


I'm sorry to hear that you blame your use of weed for your academic failings. I graduated from The University of the Arts with a 3.47 GPA and smoked pot every day. Granted, I was painting and drawing most of the time, but I did manage to mix in history, english, psychology and math in there. KNow what I did? I CHOSE not to get high when I had a test or needed to do any studying that required memorization of any kind.

Perhaps things may have been different for you if you'd made different decisions, but this logic is flawed and all too common. The question was not "is pot good for you" or "is it wise to smoke it". The question is IS IT A CRIME - or should it be - and the answer to that from any logical and rational approach is a resounding "NO". Too many people think like this and it's frustrating.

If it's going to be used for medical reasons, I'm all for it. But if it's going to be legalized just for recreation or whatever, I don't think it's cool. I don't care what anybody says, it's a gateway for other drugs. If you like getting high, you want to try other things for a better high.


I despise this argument too. It's like suggesting that beer is a gateway to whiskey, masturbation is a gateway to rape, bb guns are a gateway to uzis, the Cub Scouts are a gateway to the military or that ear piercing is a gateway to S&M. Everything could be labled "gateway" in this sense, and it still doesn't make it criminal. Atari was my gateway to Playstation. I suppose working out is a gateway to steroids. Let's outlaw that.

I've never heard ONE well thought out, rational and succinct argument as to why it is a crime to smoke a joint and watch Seinfeld.

I still smoke occasionally so I guess I'm being a hypocrite.


I guess.

I just don't see the need for it to be legalized other than for medicinal use.


There really isn't much medicinal use for it.

It will always be around, sometimes it's harder to find than usual but whatever. I just don't think it has to be THAT available. It's a drug, it IS addictive


I hate to say it, and I'm not trying to be rude, but this is complete bullshit. I smoked pot for 15 years and simply stopped - twice. Once for a year where I just didn't want it
and currently, where I haven't smoked for 9 months. No DT's, no cravings...no addiction. Anything is addcitive to an addictive personality, but again, does that make it a CRIME? We're talking about imprisoning people for this, not whether or not we think people should smoke it.


and I think we have enough problems in America to deal with and we should spend time on other issues rather than legalizing pot...


i couldn't agree more. So let's stop allocating our already thin law enforcement resources towards mellow, lazy, peaceful dreadlocked potheads and free them up to persue the ones with the bombs, guns and violent tendencies.

Bongs, not bombs.

Legalize it now.
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Reply #65 posted 11/06/02 4:15pm

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CarrieLee said:

I just don't see the need for it to be legalized other than for medicinal use.
So that good people can enjoy without being persecuted, that's why.

What gives you or the scary majority the right to stop me?
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Reply #66 posted 11/06/02 4:54pm

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Does it really matter? I mean people who smoke it, don't care if it's legal or not, they smoke it anyway.
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Reply #67 posted 11/06/02 5:51pm

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Never smoked it, not even cigarettes. Too afraid.
Oh shit, my hat done fell off
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Reply #68 posted 11/07/02 5:55am

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Heavenly said:

Does it really matter? I mean people who smoke it, don't care if it's legal or not, they smoke it anyway.

uh...yeah it matters...when you get busted for it.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #69 posted 11/07/02 6:16am

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By them not legalizing marijuana just gave all dealers the ok to keep on selling and if they get busted be prepare for the jail time. The government is the people that's issuing the marijuana to the dealers so they are taxing people.

See here the marijuana comes from the crooket cops and they are being penny pinchers right now because we are still having a drought.What I don't understand is why they are so gun ho on getting marijuana off the streets, but still are allowing crack to be sold.
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Reply #70 posted 11/07/02 7:26am

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Given all the Republican/Democrat issues flying about since the election, I'd like to point out that NEITHER party favors drug legalization, whereas the Libertarian party is pro-legalization for the many reasons stated above.

Republicans and Democrats are very similar. Try the new flavor!
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Reply #71 posted 11/07/02 3:45pm

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Is it really a fact that nobody has died from a marijuana overdose??? I've smoked pot quite regularly for almost 10 years and there have been at least 3 occasions where I was so high I thought I was about to have a heart attack. Maybe I have some other health issues (I'm not aware of any). It's pretty common that pot makes your heart race...like Ice Cube in Friday!!!
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Reply #72 posted 11/07/02 3:48pm

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divo02 said:

Is it really a fact that nobody has died from a marijuana overdose??? I've smoked pot quite regularly for almost 10 years and there have been at least 3 occasions where I was so high I thought I was about to have a heart attack. Maybe I have some other health issues (I'm not aware of any). It's pretty common that pot makes your heart race...like Ice Cube in Friday!!!
I know what you're talking about...been there...but no, your heart is not in any danger!

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